Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #195

[sunshineray]

DD's tip narrative puts him there between 1:30 and 3:30. He puts himself there earlier.

https://fox59.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/21/2022/11/Probable-Cause-Affidavit-Richard-Allen.pdf

RA told that information to DD who wrote it down along with his phone's info and RA's mention of the girls he saw on the trail. Now because he changed it years later the original information he gave goes out the window?

 

[TTF14]

RA told that information to DD who wrote it down along with his phone's info and RA's mention of the girls he saw on the trail. Now because he changed it years later the original information he gave goes out the window?

The jury will have to decide which to believe. IIRC, DD said he always records interviews (JMO MOO). Just not this one. He also got RA's name wrong. And just a few days later, while standing on stage and seeing "BG," he apparently didn't recognize RA.

IMO MOO

 

[sunshineray]

The jury will have to decide which to believe. IIRC, DD said he always records interviews (JMO MOO). Just not this one. He also got RA's name wrong. And just a few days later, while standing on stage and seeing "BG," he apparently didn't recognize RA.

IMO MOO

Where did DD say he always recorded interviews? Do you have a link please?

 

[sunshineray]

Another thing...how is the jury going to decide who they believe more, is RA going to take the stand? Who exactly and where was the time changed from leaving at 3:30 to leaving 2 hours previous at 1:30?

 

[TTF14]

Where did DD say he always recorded interviews? Do you have a link please?

Franks memorandum.

 

[sunshineray]

Franks memorandum.

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So it was changed by whom? If it was RA I guess he'll have to get on the stand and testify to it?

 

[Trebor5591]

DBM

 

[FrostedGlass]

Another thing...how is the jury going to decide who they believe more, is RA going to take the stand? Who exactly and where was the time changed from leaving at 3:30 to leaving 2 hours previous at 1:30?

Any way one looks at it, if he left in his car at 3:30 he could not have been walking down the road at 3:57 when SC saw a muddy man in a light jacket.

Memorandum in Support of Motion for Franks Hearing.pdf

drive.google.com

 

[sunshineray]

Have you actually heard or seen any of these "confessions"? Just curious. They may well be actual confessions, but I am going to wait until the trial to make up my mind. I have learned the hard way to only believe what I see with my own eyes or hear with my own ears--since people exaggerate or even lie all the time.

Just the bits mentioned by ISP Harshman at the hearings. Said 61+ confessions some with details and dozens of incriminating statements too. He also mentioned the extremely adverse reactions RA's wife and mother had to RA confessing.Then there's Dr W who also just mentioned he confessed. Then there was also the warden who said wrote confessions to him numerous times. To hear RA's actual words we will have to wait until trial.

 

[sunshineray]

Any way one looks at it, if he left in his car at 3:30 he could not have been walking down the road at 3:57 when SC saw a muddy man in a light jacket.

Memorandum in Support of Motion for Franks Hearing.pdf

drive.google.com

When did the leaving time get changed from 3:30 to 1:30? Nobody seems to know. Was it in the last FM? He told Liggett? When was that? When he was arrested?

 

[crussell821]

I personally have zero sympathy for him as he is only suffering from these circumstances because he killed two girls. This is all his own doing because he is twisted and sick and had to be protected due to the nature of the crime. If he has ended up injured because he had been attacked then people would also moan about that. In such cases LE are damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

IMO

He was convicted of the crime already? When did that happen?

 

[TTF14]

When did the leaving time get changed from 3:30 to 1:30? Nobody seems to know. Was it in the last FM? He told Liggett? When was that? When he was arrested?

First Franks memo, page 109.

 

[sunshineray]

Any way one looks at it, if he left in his car at 3:30 he could not have been walking down the road at 3:57 when SC saw a muddy man in a light jacket.

Memorandum in Support of Motion for Franks Hearing.pdf

drive.google.com

She certainly could have since when he originally put himself there at the times he did, he wouldn't be putting in the time it took him to escape a bloody murder scene, while the victim's father was actively searching for her, into the mix. Time spent possibly traveling/lurking along in the woods edge. MO. What was he thinking, putting himself there on the trails at that time? He knew he'd been seen, more than once. He was afraid someone recognized him from CVS. That's my opinion. It's also my opinion RA will never get on the stand to state the times himself...to refute the witnesses or DD.

 

[sunshineray]

First Franks memo, page 109.

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Always the Franks Memo isn't it. Can't wait to hear testimony at trial.