I would not want to try to guess why the D said - or didn’t say - something. They shouldn’t have been saying much of anything publicly, due to the gag order.
I am NAL but I think court filings don't fall under the gag order.
Order Issued Court orders the State's Motion for Order Prohibiting the Parties, Counsel, Law Enforcement Officials, Court Personnel, Coroner and Family Members from Disseminating Information or Releasing any Extra-Judicial Statement by Means of Public Communication and the Defendant's Verified Motion for Change of Venue from the County set for hearing January 13, 2023 at 10:00 am in Carroll Circuit Court Judicial Officer: Gull, Frances -SJ Order Signed: 12/01/2022 |
Maybe RA called DD, if he knew him? I guess it's a possibility?
Because maybe it was a chance meeting and the narrative of RA calling into sounds better for him?
The only reason I can think of is the logistics of getting them to the area on private property and the cooperation of property owners causing problems?Here are two of the P's arguments against the jurors viewing the crime scene.
My question to him would be: Why would the viewing be unfair or not proper?
4. That any benefits of the Jury visiting these areas is outweighed by the dangers such a trip presents to the Jury and to the fairness of trial.
5. That the State does not believe it is proper to have the Jury view the scene or the other various areas.
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IMO there could be a compromise on this motion but I doubt that will happen. I see a denial in the future.
Fair enough.
For me, the two reasons bolded above are the most important issues.Here are the rest of the P's objections:
2. That the State objects to the Jury going out to view those areas requested by the Defense for the following reasons:
a. The terrain where the bodies were found is very difficult to traverse and would be dangerous for the jury to get to.
b. That traveling to the where the bodies were found and to the opposite end of the Monon High Bride would involve encroaching on two private landowners property.
c. That it would require a substantial amount of time and resources to take the jury to those areas while ensuring that they are sequestered from the public and outside influences.
d. That the areas of where the bodies were found along with the site of the old CPS building are substantially different from the time the crimes occurred.
That the State intends to introduce into evidence demonstrative exhibits, maps of the various areas, and drone footage of the various areas to show the jurors the various places outlined in the Defense’s request.
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How would the D arrive at he called a tipline if he called DD directly? Eg: DD’s home or cell number surely weren’t set up as any sort of tipline, were they? Moo.
I can’t imagine property owners having a problem with it providing insurance liability issues are clearly sorted and any incidents that may arise as a result are a problem for the State in terms of insurance. Mooo
They suggested it could be done in UNDER 90m total. Ya may need to adjust your plan accordingly.
IMO the Prosecution has no qulams with showing the road under the bridge simply because all the girls were forced to do was cross it (it would show in the drone footage regardless). The road as it relates to the crime and timeline was crossed by the girls on their way into and accross the creek and into the bowl to ther demise. No one was driven out on that road and no one was driven back to the scene later/overnight on that road. It's merely a road IMO.Do I think the D actually think the judge will allow the jurors view the scene ? No.
However, they likely will be successful in getting this much admitted. That's probably the best they could hope for.
I wonder if the P will show video of the road that runs under the bridge.
3. That the State intends to introduce into evidence demonstrative exhibits, maps of the various areas, and drone footage of the various areas to show the jurors the various places outlined in the Defense’s request.
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My plan is fine as it's not based on the D-Team. It's based on the facts we've learned and timings put forth thus far in sworn testimony and photo, video and witness sightings/timings.They suggested it could be done in UNDER 90m total. Ya may need to adjust your plan accordingly.
2. I hope they do find a way to visit the scene. If it’s so sure RA did this then why wouldn’t the State want to hammer home how trapped the kids were?
Delphi murder suspect wants jurors to see the crime scenes
Delphi murder suspect Richard Allen's attorneys asked Special Judge Frances Gull to allow jurors to see the crime scenes in person.www.jconline.com
I'm speculating, if RA knew DD. I don't take anything the D has said in the FMs as truth. It's been shown too many times to be inaccurate. MO
Here are two of the P's arguments against the jurors viewing the crime scene.
My question to him would be: Why would the viewing be unfair or not proper?
4. That any benefits of the Jury visiting these areas is outweighed by the dangers such a trip presents to the Jury and to the fairness of trial.
5. That the State does not believe it is proper to have the Jury view the scene or the other various areas.
Adobe Acrobat
IMO there could be a compromise on this motion but I doubt that will happen. I see a denial in the future.
I think it's an, of course the P will have video, pictures and maps of the crime scene area. I wonder if they did that LiDAR 3-D mapping?Do I think the D actually think the judge will allow the jurors view the scene ? No.
However, they likely will be successful in getting this much admitted. That's probably the best they could hope for.
I wonder if the P will show video of the road that runs under the bridge.
3. That the State intends to introduce into evidence demonstrative exhibits, maps of the various areas, and drone footage of the various areas to show the jurors the various places outlined in the Defense’s request.
Adobe Acrobat
They suggested it could be done in UNDER 90m total. Ya may need to adjust your plan accordingly.
2. I hope they do find a way to visit the scene. If it’s so sure RA did this then why wouldn’t the State want to hammer home how trapped the kids were?
Delphi murder suspect wants jurors to see the crime scenes
Delphi murder suspect Richard Allen's attorneys asked Special Judge Frances Gull to allow jurors to see the crime scenes in person.www.jconline.com
d. That the areas of where the bodies were found along with the site of the old CPS building are substantially different from the time the crimes occurred.Here are the rest of the P's objections:
2. That the State objects to the Jury going out to view those areas requested by the Defense for the following reasons:
a. The terrain where the bodies were found is very difficult to traverse and would be dangerous for the jury to get to.
b. That traveling to the where the bodies were found and to the opposite end of the Monon High Bride would involve encroaching on two private landowners property.
c. That it would require a substantial amount of time and resources to take the jury to those areas while ensuring that they are sequestered from the public and outside influences.
d. That the areas of where the bodies were found along with the site of the old CPS building are substantially different from the time the crimes occurred.
That the State intends to introduce into evidence demonstrative exhibits, maps of the various areas, and drone footage of the various areas to show the jurors the various places outlined in the Defense’s request.
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