Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #197

[FrostedGlass]

The rumor originated directly from the moderator of a large (over 43,000 members) and well-known Facebook group devoted to discussion of the Delphi murders so it didn't take much effort to come across it. The moderator had been attending the RA hearings in person so the info surrounding the hearings that was presented as first-hand knowledge in that group was being widely discussed on social media/message boards. People who follow news on the Delphi murders were probably reaching out to TMS to see if they thought there was truth to it or not.

Thank you. I have a lack of trust in all the social stuff so I stick mostly with the court filings.
I guess I need to get out more often.

 

[sunshineray]

If it wasn't for the internet cranks starting the rumor and TMS running with it, it never would have had to be done at all. All this rearing it's ugly head "on the eve of her husband's trial" if very suspect. IMO

I'm curious how TMS came across that rumor to begin with.

Actually I don't believe it was an internet crank/youtuber. I believe it originated from a person who was in the courthouse parking area. There is no acceptable link for use on WS, so the vague reference from MS is all we have..and KA's letter denying it. Why she or the lawyers she spoke with thought it necessary to air her personal business by responding in such a way to questions, I don't rightly know. AJMO

 

[girlhasnoname]

Actually I don't believe it was an internet crank/youtuber. I believe it originated from a person who was in the courthouse parking area. There is no acceptable link for use on WS, so the vague reference from MS is all we have..and KA's letter denying it. Why she or the lawyers she spoke with thought it necessary to air her personal business by responding in such a way to questions, I don't rightly know. AJMO

One last swing for some good words by KA about RA in the Court of Public Opinion.

JMO

 

[Salah11]

One last swing for some good words by KA about RA in the Court of Public Opinion.

JMO

She just burned a lot of bridges with her statement. I hope it was worth it when her husband is found guilty in a few weeks time.

Moo

 

[tlcya]

KA is doing what she feels is best. It is not for me to judge her. She has committed no crime and I am loathe to put myself in her shoes and say how I would react to the circumstances she has found herself in. I believe that RA is guilty. I understand why she may not be.

Whether her choosing to make a statement through counsel was ill advised or served some agenda I do not know and I do not care. The statement she made was respectful IMO and I refuse to fault her for it.

While I do not understand why she felt a need to address rumors and speak at long last, I am not in her shoes. YMMV that is simply MOO

 

[FrostedGlass]

Actually I don't believe it was an internet crank/youtuber. I believe it originated from a person who was in the courthouse parking area. There is no acceptable link for use on WS, so the vague reference from MS is all we have..and KA's letter denying it. Why she or the lawyers she spoke with thought it necessary to air her personal business by responding in such a way to questions, I don't rightly know. AJMO

Thanks for offering up your opinion but I think I now fully understand what happened.

 

[FrostedGlass]

KA is doing what she feels is best. It is not for me to judge her. She has committed no crime and I am loathe to put myself in her shoes and say how I would react to the circumstances she has found herself in. I believe that RA is guilty. I understand why she may not be.

Whether her choosing to make a statement through counsel was ill advised or served some agenda I do not know and I do not care. The statement she made was respectful IMO and I refuse to fault her for it.

While I do not understand why she felt a need to address rumors and speak at long last, I am not in her shoes. YMMV that is simply MOO

That is a very nice post.

As to the "why" perhaps her attorney did some digging on the net and found out who started the rumor and how large of a net they cast.

 

[Willow Knight]

Paraphrasing:

"Kathy’s response is necessary because the truth matters and misinformation causes harm"

This rumor has been around for a while, it's been all over the internet. Why now make a statement?

OK. Truth matters. What I took away from the public announcement is KA stands by her person. She loves her husband, stands by her marriage vows.

I do hope some day I will see justice not only for Libby and Abby, their family and loved ones. Also for other innocent people that have been harmed by "misinformation".

 

[susiQ]

I don’t bother with most podcasts but Lawyer Lee is always balanced in her commentary. Very well rounded in contrast with many others, IMO.

 

[Salah11]

KA is doing what she feels is best. It is not for me to judge her. She has committed no crime and I am loathe to put myself in her shoes and say how I would react to the circumstances she has found herself in. I believe that RA is guilty. I understand why she may not be.

Whether her choosing to make a statement through counsel was ill advised or served some agenda I do not know and I do not care. The statement she made was respectful IMO and I refuse to fault her for it.

While I do not understand why she felt a need to address rumors and speak at long last, I am not in her shoes. YMMV that is simply MOO

Using a quote from the Libby’s sister is anything but classy and respectable. It’s just another knife in the family’s backs but then that’s what the vast majority of us have come to expect from these people.

They could have quoted millions of other people from History without using Kelsi. It’s just astounding the lack of class any of them have shown Libby’s family.

IMO

 

[tlcya]

Using a quote from the Libby’s sister is anything but classy and respectable. It’s just another knife in the family’s backs but then that’s what the vast majority of us have come to expect from these people.

They could have quoted millions of other people from History without using Kelsi. It’s just astounding the lack of class any of them having shown Libby’s family.

IMO

we can absolutely disagree about it

 

[shonyakay]

I don’t bother with most podcasts but Lawyer Lee is always balanced in her commentary. Very well rounded in contrast with many others, IMO.

It seems like she is only using older documents though. Does she ever talk about the testimony from the July/August hearings?

 

[vinayd]

It seems like she is only using older documents though. Does she ever talk about the testimony from the July/August hearings?

I watched her long before she started covering Delphi and am normally impressed. Not this time. She knows little bits and pieces and I'm disappointed she doesn't do so much research to back her opinions.

 

[susiQ]

It seems like she is only using older documents though. Does she ever talk about the testimony from the July/August hearings?

Yes, in fact she does and has other videos that address them. She plans to attend the trial should she be fortunate enough to get in. I very much hope she does because of her very balanced, unbiased opinion. She is fact based and a straight shooter, IMO.

 

[shonyakay]

I watched her long before she started covering Delphi and am normally impressed. Not this time. She knows little bits and pieces and I'm disappointed she doesn't do so much research to back her opinions.

From what I have seen she reads a lot of the older defense documents in this case.

It would be nice if she would also read the testimony transcripts from the July/August hearings.

 

[shonyakay]

Yes, in fact she does and has other videos that address them. She plans to attend the trial should she be fortunate enough to get in. I very much hope she does because of her very balanced, unbiased opinion. She is fact based and a straight shooter, IMO.

Well that's great if she has indeed shared all of the available information.

She does appear to lean toward the defense's side of things though. Imo.

 

[sunshineray]

That is a very nice post.

As to the "why" perhaps her attorney did some digging on the net and found out who started the rumor and how large of a net they cast.

Was it someone who has it in for RA? Or was it someone trying to free him?

 

[girlhasnoname]

If it wasn't for the internet cranks starting the rumor and TMS running with it, it never would have had to be done at all. All this rearing it's ugly head "on the eve of her husband's trial" if very suspect. IMO

I'm curious how TMS came across that rumor to begin with.

Like TMS or not, at least they had the common decency to speak with KA through her attorney before publishing and commenting on rumor.

They certainly did not have to, they didn't start it to begin with. It was circulated by those extra special Internet Cranks and FB woohoos.

Kudos to TMS for rising above the dregs and allowing dialogue from an accused child killer's wife, who is also a victim of RA IMO.

MOO

 

[FrostedGlass]

Like TMS or not, at least they had the common decency to speak with KA through her attorney before publishing and commenting on rumor.

They certainly did not have to, they didn't start it to begin with. It was circulated by those extra special Internet Cranks and FB woohoos.

Kudos to TMS for rising above the dregs and allowing dialogue from an accused child killer's wife, who is also a victim of RA IMO.

MOO

That's not how they said it happened.

"We reached out to KA herself, did not get a response. We reached out to RA and did not get a response. This weekend we actually heard from KA's attorney."
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I can't imagine the gall it took to call RA and ask about the rumor. SMH

 

[FrostedGlass]

Was it someone who has it in for RA? Or was it someone trying to free him?

I can't think of any benefit it would be to RA and his family to spread a rumor like that.