Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #197

[FromGermany1]

No worries, I just truly had never heard that. Do you think DC saying "explain some of the intricate details of the death of Abby and Libby" could have meant the details of the brutal crime scene?

MOO

I think of connections between involved parties rather. NOT thinking of the brutal crime scene. IMO

 

[Vaderman]

Is today the last business day that things can be delayed before this thing kicks off Monday?

 

[Inthedetails]

I think of connections between involved parties rather. NOT thinking of the brutal crime scene. IMO

I think LE was investigating a catfish situation long before that late-night request for information regarding Anthony_Shots.

In fact, LE went hard on this angle, while keeping most of it under wraps. I still wonder if RA's info was dredged up during this process or if RA was completely separate. I lean toward separate, but, of course, we don't know (yet).

jmo

 

[susiQ]

Almost half of our female prisoners have been prescribed psychotropic medications and yet we never see spontaneous confessions.

RSBM
While these statistics may be factual, they fail to take into consideration the circumstances of RA’s incarceration and possible mistreatment (tasering, verbal abuse, isolation) that he endured. One should not compare without knowing all the details that will hopefully be revealed at trial. JMHO

 

[girlhasnoname]

I think of connections between involved parties rather. NOT thinking of the brutal crime scene. IMO

Off down the rabbit hole, I must find out more information about this. Come drag me out by Sunday so I will be ready for Trial on Monday, lol.

 

[TTF14]

Is today the last business day that things can be delayed before this thing kicks off Monday?

Last month a very high profile trial was canceled/delayed the morning of its start! (Donna Adelson)

 

[TTF14]

RSBM
While these statistics may be factual, they fail to take into consideration the circumstances of RA’s incarceration and possible mistreatment (tasering, verbal abuse, isolation) that he endured. One should not compare without knowing all the details that will hopefully be revealed at trial. JMHO

Thank you!

 

[TTF14]

I doubt that's the reason for being called to testify.

I agree.

 

[TTF14]

Was the girls going to the bridge not a last minute decision?

We don’t really know.

 

[TTF14]

Great theory!
I've looked at all of them and have found only one tie that binds them. All are from different areas, all are convicted of different crimes. The only thing I've found that they have in common is they are in Indiana prisons.
MOO

I agree!

 

[iamshadow21]

Last month a very high profile trial was canceled/delayed the morning of its start! (Donna Adelson)

Yeah, but that circumstance won't be repeated the same way here, as nobody else has been tried for this crime and so the defense can't be dismissed for repping two defendants without waivers. Their only client in this situation is RA.

MOO

 

[susiQ]

Another thing they have in common is they are not BG.

jmo

True, but it has not been proven that RA is BG either. I don’t think BG looks or sounds anything like RA. I am not alone either. I honestly don’t feel that 12 jurors will unanimously agree that RA = BG. They will want much more convincing evidence. JMHO

 

[SouthEnd]

RSBM
While these statistics may be factual, they fail to take into consideration the circumstances of RA’s incarceration and possible mistreatment (tasering, verbal abuse, isolation) that he endured. One should not compare without knowing all the details that will hopefully be revealed at trial. JMHO

From the little I know of prison life, having tried to understand the treatment inmates receive, I would personally say you are describing the bog average prison experience in the USA. There are documentaries that show the array of scars and injuries, self inflicted and not, suffered by inmates accused of a tenth of what RA has been accused. And I believe that will be argued with statistics in 5 minutes flat during trial. Yes, it is not a common circumstance for pre-trial detainees. Yes, he has been treated as well as I would have expected within the North American prison system. A lot of the conversation in this thread is, IMO, conflating the abusive treatment the average person who is incarcerated in the US receives, and the evils of the prison system, with the specifics of RA's circumstances. He is uncommon, in that he is housed in a prison instead of a jail, but not special, in the treatment he's received. Do I condone the current system? No, but I don't believe it led to his specific confessions.

All MOO

 

[TTF14]

They are all connected with previous theories - at least three of them to previous suspects discussed online.

EDIT: MOO

There may be another connection.

 

[SouthEnd]

There may be another connection.

Please elaborate, thank you!

 

[TTF14]

True, but it has not been proven that RA is BG either. I don’t think BG looks or sounds anything like RA. I am not alone either. I honestly don’t feel that 12 jurors will unanimously agree that RA = BG. They will want much more convincing evidence. JMHO

Absolutely. I don’t think he looks anything like “BG”

 

[Inthedetails]

True, but it has not been proven that RA is BG either. I don’t think BG looks or sounds anything like RA. I am not alone either. I honestly don’t feel that 12 jurors will unanimously agree that RA = BG. They will want much more convincing evidence. JMHO

Yes, that's what the trial is for.

I am confident the jury will hear evidence, deliberate, and make the right decision based on what is presented in court.

jmo

 

[TTF14]

Please elaborate, thank you!

There may be some other connection we don’t know about. Yet.

IMO

 

[SouthEnd]

Is today the last business day that things can be delayed before this thing kicks off Monday?

TBH I have witnessed all sorts of 'last minute surprises' - I will not feel restful until the verdict has been read out.
And all the appeals exhausted.
And then some.

 

[SouthEnd]

There may be some other connection we don’t know about. Yet.

IMO

Thank you, I thought you were saying that there is another connection that you know about, but it was just a general hypothetical? Ta!