Again: Where was Casey going for two years?

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and in the thread talking about who the special K person is....they found someone who could be the same person, cause its the same name and I havent read yet if its 100% her yet....she has or is working at Amscot! :eek: would be very good for KC to have someone she knows at a place like that to conduct fraud....or have a mail box there...or what ever...YKWIM ...Im not impying that this person is involved with Caylee murder though....just perhaps has seen KC quite often and has made phone conversations with her...thats all....!!
and this person also worked for WinnDixi...sp???....and I believe that FrankM also had work there....I had seen pics of him and some conversations with other friends on his myspace about it....the girl in the piriate outfit is the one that I had seen pics on her myspace with FrankM working at what I remember right is WinnDixi.....if you find his myspace you will see a blond girl in a piriate outfit on...her myspace is now set to priviate...I wish I new how to take screen shots I would have......

yes yes yes
 
That's a good question! I would tend to think so.

Personally, I think a lot of the time Casey was pretending to work, she was just being lazy and doing what we saw her doing in the released ping reports: Pretending to go to work, killing some time while George was in the house, and then returning home to use the internet and do whatever she wanted.

I also think she was probably involved in something illicit at some point-- scams or an enterprise related to "the bad pictures," or something otherwise illicit.

Yes, I also think the bad pictures that haven't been released has something to do with where she spent her time. And all this texting that she did, all the time, surely would help pinpoint where she was. She had to have left a trail.
 
There are no hidden entrances. One used to be through the VIP lobby, which is now locked. The other was behind Hard Rock Cafe which is now the entrance to the Blue Man Group. Both of those entrances have been locked down for over 2 years.

Thanks for letting me know.:) I know the Hard Rock Cafe one you're speaking about. When I lived there, the VIP lobby could only be used by an employee letting someone in. Neither of these were the areas I was referring to. It might not matter anyway b/c it might have been sealed off...but still, it's questionable. I'm sure LE have checked everything out, anyway. I will not post it due to people reading here. Hopefully, if it's still there, then LE reads here and checks everything out. I'm sure some locals already spoke about it anyway.
 
Patrick B, 22 of Orlando can be found on People Search listed as P S B with a list of relatives that includes the name Frank… the same name that was on the registry to visit KC during her first jail stay. I am not sure that this is the same Patrick, but it looks to be. The Pat B that has a murder warrant from 2007 in Louisiana was listed as 19 at the time of the murder in 2007, and on People Search he is listed as Patrick B b with a current age of 20.
 
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We think exactly the same way!!!!!!!!!! IMO you are NOT crazy!!

The biggest question to me is that I wonder how this person keeps getting away with such atrocities. IMO, he must have some pretty high-ups on his side. As usual, where there's $$$, things can be worked out. Makes me sick. Makes me multi-national sick if the other one is as much involved as I think he is!:steamed:
 
FWIW.....I have family that lives in Orlando and we travel there often!!! My DH and I enjoy going out down there as it has a million great restaurants, bars, and clubs. We've even been known to visit a gentlemens club that actually has a fabulous restaurant inside. Orlando is a tourist and convention destination. Translate.....lots of people away from home and free to do as they please. Especially ince Hurricane Katrina hit the convention market in New Orleans so hard. Having stayed at several of the upscale hotels around the corner from the Orange County Convention Center I can tell you firsthand that young, college aged girls are out in full force. In fact while waiting in the valet line at a very nice hotel / convention center my DH and I stood and picked out the girls who were clearly local but enjoying the company of "tourists". And.....it was amazing how many girls were arriving to the hotel ALONE as we would get back in from a night out. No luggage............not quite sure which elevator...........and dressed alike. Oh.... and BTW my bro in law has worked for several police departments in the Orlando area ..undercover.......and has "escorted" a number of them to a custom suite when they get "busted".
 
Wait a minute...I wasn't referring to the "in through the back" statement to mean that she was giving bj's, etc, there. I was talking about sneaking in without having to pay and that could keep her busy all day. Heck, she had a lanyard that she kept from Universal with her id, for all we know she could have still been going there and handing out business cards. I absolutely LOVE your idea of purse snatching. Hmmm. Wonder when the last time was that ZFG went to a theme park down there... Although I don't think it's where KC got the name of ZFG, I couldn't rule it out...but I like the thought of purse snatching. Most people in theme parks, especially people from overseas, they leave their purses in the stroller baskets. It wouldn't be too hard to steal a purse imo.

SEE POST 162 FOR EXPLANATION OF IN THROUGH THE BACK. THANKS.


I actually wasn't responding to your post. I understood "in through the back". I think KC is capable of petty crime but I doubt she was an escort/prostitute.

1. An escort service that paid well-would not have hired her. She is dumb-no one is going to pay for a conversation then whatever with her.

2. She was not desperate enough to be a common hooker. Her basic needs were taken care of. KC is not going to do so much for so little.

3. KC wanted to be loved, she wanted the white picket fence stuff. Boyfriends described her as clingy. This is a girl that started pairing KC w/ Tony's last name within weeks of knowing him.

4. She is the type of girl that would sleep w/ someone once in some sort of relationship to get what she wanted but I don't think she had sex for $.
 
It is positively unimaginable that for 2 years, neither Cindy nor George wondered WTH was going on with Casey and Caylee .. :mad:
There's NO way they believed Casey was working ..

Hard to imagine the family never spoke of the nanny at home ..
No one in the family ever met the nanny; very odd, considering Casey and Caylee lived at home with them .. :rolleyes:
Cindy says, it was "their" time, she never asked about the nanny ..
Riiiiiight, sure she didn't .. :rolleyes:

I have a feeling that LE already knows how Casey spent her days .. :)
 
It is positively unimaginable that for 2 years, neither Cindy nor George wondered WTH was going on with Casey and Caylee .. :mad:
There's NO way they believed Casey was working ..

Hard to imagine the family never spoke of the nanny at home ..
No one in the family ever met the nanny; very odd, considering Casey and Caylee lived at home with them .. :rolleyes:
Cindy says, it was "their" time, she never asked about the nanny ..
Riiiiiight, sure she didn't .. :rolleyes:

I have a feeling that LE already knows how Casey spent her days .. :)

Wow, Marla, totally agree with you.
 
For all we know, Caylee was left alone in the A's home while KC was working during all those days. The A's also knew this. That could be why know one is speaking. Maybe they locked her in a room. Since they were all in and out throughout the day including LA
 
Think about it, GA didnt go to work until afternoons, Usually CA came home for lunch and LA stopped in and out along with KC.
 
For all we know, Caylee was left alone in the A's home while KC was working during all those days. The A's also knew this. That could be why know one is speaking. Maybe they locked her in a room. Since they were all in and out throughout the day including LA


i know casey is capable of that, but not cindy and george. i know they have their faults but i can't believe you could count doing that among them.
 
FWIW.....I have family that lives in Orlando and we travel there often!!! My DH and I enjoy going out down there as it has a million great restaurants, bars, and clubs. We've even been known to visit a gentlemens club that actually has a fabulous restaurant inside. Orlando is a tourist and convention destination. Translate.....lots of people away from home and free to do as they please. Especially ince Hurricane Katrina hit the convention market in New Orleans so hard. Having stayed at several of the upscale hotels around the corner from the Orange County Convention Center I can tell you firsthand that young, college aged girls are out in full force. In fact while waiting in the valet line at a very nice hotel / convention center my DH and I stood and picked out the girls who were clearly local but enjoying the company of "tourists". And.....it was amazing how many girls were arriving to the hotel ALONE as we would get back in from a night out. No luggage............not quite sure which elevator...........and dressed alike. Oh.... and BTW my bro in law has worked for several police departments in the Orlando area ..undercover.......and has "escorted" a number of them to a custom suite when they get "busted".

Thank you. Even though I already knew this firsthand, you added merit to what I was stating. Most of the girls are nothing less than beautiful model material...it's such a shame. Alot of them are sought out, also. I worked as an extra years ago, just for some side money b/c my books were expensive and I was young so my tips from waitressing were spent as soon as I made them:)...anyway, I was approached myself, in line waiting to find out if I was going to be one of the extras picked, and this was in a group of extras at Universal! No, I'm not suggesting a Universal employee, just another extra like myself. Some of these girls are so naieve and, with sex being the way it was back then (heck, it's even worse now), just go for the quick buck and excitement of it all. It's so sad. There's alot of LE and other's that one wouldn't even expect to get caught up in that scene. IMO, KC went through guys like I go through packs of Dentyne. I do not find this farfetched at all...especially if she was mixed up with these people we've been referring to. Do I think she was bigtime? No way. I think she's a small fish in a big sea. The important thing is that she's still a fish...I can only wonder if we'll ever find out exactly how many fish swam in her sea and exactly how big the sea she swam in was. An even better thought would be: exactly who is Neptune?
 
i know casey is capable of that, but not cindy and george. i know they have their faults but i can't believe you could count doing that among them.

I agree. They loved Caylee too much...still love Caylee endlessly.
 
Thank you. Even though I already knew this firsthand, you added merit to what I was stating. Most of the girls are nothing less than beautiful model material...it's such a shame. Alot of them are sought out, also. I worked as an extra years ago, just for some side money b/c my books were expensive and I was young so my tips from waitressing were spent as soon as I made them:)...anyway, I was approached myself, in line waiting to find out if I was going to be one of the extras picked, and this was in a group of extras at Universal! No, I'm not suggesting a Universal employee, just another extra like myself. Some of these girls are so naieve and, with sex being the way it was back then (heck, it's even worse now), just go for the quick buck and excitement of it all. It's so sad. There's alot of LE and other's that one wouldn't even expect to get caught up in that scene. IMO, KC went through guys like I go through packs of Dentyne. I do not find this farfetched at all...especially if she was mixed up with these people we've been referring to. Do I think she was bigtime? No way. I think she's a small fish in a big sea. The important thing is that she's still a fish...I can only wonder if we'll ever find out exactly how many fish swam in her sea and exactly how big the sea she swam in was. An even better thought would be: exactly who is Neptune?


You have a way with words, JG! I agree with your thoughts 110%. She wasn't big time, but I believe she was making plans to be. I do hope we find out because that would give insight to who was watching Caylee while she was doing her 'job' :crazy:
 
For all we know, Caylee was left alone in the A's home while KC was working during all those days. The A's also knew this. That could be why know one is speaking. Maybe they locked her in a room. Since they were all in and out throughout the day including LA

No way can I believe this. The A's actions have been definitely questionable, but, IMHO, they loved Caylee with all of their heart.
 
I actually wasn't responding to your post. I understood "in through the back". I think KC is capable of petty crime but I doubt she was an escort/prostitute.

1. An escort service that paid well-would not have hired her. She is dumb-no one is going to pay for a conversation then whatever with her.

2. She was not desperate enough to be a common hooker. Her basic needs were taken care of. KC is not going to do so much for so little.

3. KC wanted to be loved, she wanted the white picket fence stuff. Boyfriends described her as clingy. This is a girl that started pairing KC w/ Tony's last name within weeks of knowing him.

4. She is the type of girl that would sleep w/ someone once in some sort of relationship to get what she wanted but I don't think she had sex for $.

I don't think she had sex for money with the understanding up front that she would be paid, but I do believe she used sex to gain favors and to manipulate men. Didn't Lee make a comment at one time about men supporting Casey? I have a vague memory of something along those lines but can't recall exactly what he said.
 
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Sleutherontheside, WOW! Great find, and another direction to delve into.

I agree with suspicious1 - if GA's Nigerian scam story is actually true, KC probably setup GA.

That always makes me think how KC always has bits of truth in her stories - Universal vs Universal Auto Parts (Scam).

Casey Anthony provided an e-mail to detectives that she said she received from her boss at Universal Studios (Thomas.Frank@events.universal.com), the documents said. The e-mail was signed by Thomas Frank, whom Casey Anthony said was her boss, but investigators said he does not exist.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17300779/detail.html

Keep posting anything you find! I'm off to search more too.



****MY Own Opinion this makes alot of since she was probably like daddy lets try this, while she sent him email and set GA up the whole time.
 
Orlando has quite a few "Men's Clubs" that have dancers behind a glass partition. Men can't touch the girls at all and from what I understand, the hours are very flexible and you more or less work when and if you want. I've wondered if she possibly did that type thing?

I don't know if this has been discussed or not but... this case is huge... wouldn't a customer or anyone who saw her anytime would be coming forward. I mean even if she did something under the table... LE should know by now right?
Or even if she went to a bar or changed at a store... someone must have seen her.
 
Ok, I have had some thoughts on where KC went all day. I have noted before I have a friend that had a fake job for a long time while living at home, and she would get up every day and put on her work uniform and leave the house. She was never asked about a paycheck, because it was assumed she was spending the paycheck on gas, car payment, lunch, occasional nights out, etc. She was really, usually, going to the park all day to sleep, or visiting friends when they were done with class or work for the day.

I think the whole point is to keep the parents off her case for not having a job, and I would think that they wouldn't quiz her about her paycheck due to the fact that she was obviously paying for gas and a nanny, and clothes, and nights out, etc. It is easy for me to see how she could leave mid-day, wait for GA to leave and then return. GA thinks Caylee is "with the nanny". Then she has about four hours "free" to hang out, play on the computer and make plans for the evening. Caylee, although a toddler, could easily be kept in a playpen up until probably 24 months... When I was repainting my house my baby was in a playpen watching Blues Clues in another room to avoid the fumes and the mess :) and she was 18 months. She was fine and didn't try to get out or even make a fuss. I didn't put her in there all day every day, but I would imagine if I had she might even be less likely to raise a ruckus.

Around "quittin' time" for CA, KC could bring her by CA's office. Now the story is she is on lunch break from work, picked Caylee up from the nanny and is heading back for the night shift. On other days, she could admit to hanging around the house all day and drop Caylee off with CA for a longer night shift, or even wait for CA to come home to start work. As long as "event planner" meant mostly evening and night work, she had any number of friends to hang out with in the evenings while she was "working" and CA had Caylee.

In the end, I think the imaginary nanny was "on duty" to GA and CA when:

  1. KC was home
  2. KC had Caylee at friends' places with her (see Clint's interview where he says Caylee was there almost every single afternoon and evening)
  3. KC was driving around in her car or at the park feeding Caylee Velveeta and hanging around waiting for her friends to get done with their legitimate work or school.
  4. When GA and CA knew KC was someplace her parents would not have wanted Caylee to be and KC needed to let them know Caylee was safe elsewhere - for example the nights KC and Caylee spent at Rico's. CA says Caylee never stayed there, Rico said she did, so clearly KC was saying Caylee was with the nanny those nights.
The only one of those four that troubles me is the last one. Because we just don't know if ALL of those times Caylee was conscious and apparent.

I also think the imaginary nanny was "on duty" to KC's friends even more often, because she needed to name the nanny sometimes even when CA and GA had Caylee to help with the ruse that she was managing being a single mom all on her own without being a burden to her parents.

I have been intrigued by the idea that Caylee's father was sending hush money. :waitasec: That would explain a lot. It doesn't appear from what I have heard that KC had a bank account up until the one she mentions to LA that she opened right before her arrest. I do think GA probably gave her cash now and then. He said that when they found out she was stealing gas that if she would have just told them she needed gas money they would have helped her out.

I am not sure we know how the "check cashing scheme" with her grandma's birthday check worked. I think it is possible that she might have used the routing and account numbers to simply use Western Union (or something similar - even PayPal has eCheck), but I have not delved into that yet.

As a side note, since people have mentioned in this thread the idea that CA knew KC was an unfit mother before this all went down, I would just like to say I don't think she had any grounds beforehand. She was irritated and annoyed that KC was not pulling her weight financially, sure. She was tired of supporting her and probably not getting much in the way of appreciation and gratitude, yes. She might even have felt that since she was paying for Caylee's doctor's appointments, clothes, and food, that she might as well be the "mom". But none of those makes one an unfit parent. Now if she had thrown them BOTH out, and then was able to prove KC was homeless or putting Caylee in a dangerous situation due to not having the funds for something more safe, then she might have had a case. But even if KC flagrantly went out partying every night and spent her day on the sofa eating bon bons, she was not "unfit" unless she put Caylee in danger. Which I personally don't think she did until June 16th.
 

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