Recovered/Located AL - Casey White, cap murder chg, & Vicky Sue White, CO w/sher office, Lauderdale, 29 Apr'22*Reward*

[Dallasdon]

I also heard on the newscast linked below that the day she disappeared was Vicky’s last day on the job before retiring.

Livestream

someone retiring after decades of service- they must have planned a retirement party for her. That’s gotta hurt.

 

[CharlestonGal]

I'm sorry but I just see this as someone who has done the right thing their whole life and has had some sort of "mental break". None of the retirement paperwork stuff even matters IMO. It was just a way for her to make it know she was done.

Yup. A minor eff-you leading up to the major eff-you. "I'm out of here. Oh, and I'm taking your most notorious prisoner with me." jmo

 

[BeckyF]

Two questions:

MONEY
Would not attending an exit interview really hold up her retirement money from being released? My opinion is no. Accessing that money could be an issue but what if she used an online bank?

BEACH
What beach had she mentioned retiring to? Any plans in place or at least looking at property? Of course, I realize that would be too obvious a place to hide but I am curious.

I hope these two are found before anyone else gets hurt. Thanks to anyone who has info or feedback re: my questions.

JMO

BBM

re: money

If you don’t work for the Alabama department of corrections I don’t know how anyone would know if skipping an exit interview would result in a withholding of funds. I’m sure her online banking accounts are being monitored.

She’s going to prison. And I would eat my hat if he’s in love with her. No way, IMO.

I’ll take a few bites out of that hat.

 

[BeckyF]

I'm sorry but I just see this as someone who has done the right thing their whole life and has had some sort of "mental break". None of the retirement paperwork stuff even matters IMO. It was just a way for her to make it know she was done.

A mental break she planned for weeks, if not longer.

 

[Teche]

She had done the paperwork for retirement but in AL you have an exit interview with the retirement systems before it is official. So she will not be getting her pension. what she WILL get is either a grave or a cell.

It was reported that VW’s retirement paperwork was submitted but she has yet to meet with Human Resources. Until the meeting, the paperwork has yet to be forwarded on to the state.

 

[cvaldez1975]

BBM

re: money

If you don’t work for the Alabama department of corrections I don’t know how anyone would know if skipping an exit interview would result in a withholding of funds. I’m sure her online banking accounts are being monitored.

I’ll take a few bites out of that hat.

He used her to get out

 

[OddOneOut]

As far as I know, no officials have made any mention of her private vehicle. I tend to think that that means it’s accounted for.

If I remember rightly, in the press conference today, posted earlier in this thread, the sheriff said that they were working on ‘leads’ as to what vehicle they might be in. I think they might be checking any camera footage that exists of the parking lot where the patrol car was found—see what cars were moving through it in the general timeframe. And, checking any possibility that she bought a getaway car somewhere?

But, no idea of what sort/color of vehicle, as far as I know.

I wonder if any people have come up missing with their vehicle also missing?

 

[BeckyF]

I think it would be really hard to be so mundane while planning to break a felon out of jail. As bad as it looks for VW, I wonder if this is a horrible set of coincidences. (Selling the house, retiring, etc.)

That being said, the non existent appointments are pretty damning.

No coincidences. It is as it appears, IMO

 

[Arkay]

You could replace "mundane" with "stoic" and "calculated". IMO of course.

I would probably go for "nonchalant." Which I find very frightening. Your last day on the job after 25 years, seems like it was ho-hum until it was time to put the plan in action. She didn't tell her own mother she was retiring, even though she was living with her mother now?

I'm of two minds whether he would kill her immediately or keep her alive for his purposes. I don't believe in any way that this "love" was mutual.

He's the calculated one, IMO. He needed her so he could escape. Will she slow him down now?

I feel that it's more likely that for the immediate future, he needs her, like others have said. Someone has to get food. To me the only distinguishing characteristic she has is her mouth, and if she wears a Covid mask and a hat, I don't think she'd be noticeable.

I do think his height is a conspicuous factor. Not in a circus freak way at all, but just that it is the first thing people probably always use as a descriptor for him. I have a friend who's 6'5", and his adult life has been an endless series of comments or jokes about it. If anyone were to describe him they'd say, "you know, that really tall guy." If CW is 6'9", that's even more impactful.

I supposed they could order food on Amazon or Target if they have some discreet address somewhere, but the Feds must be watching out for use of her credit cards.

CW may also keep her around as a bargaining chip if the police surround them.

I wonder how long it took 'til he took her gun from her? Three seconds or four?

Jmo

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

Vicky White had planned to retire and that Friday was to be her last day. He said she had sold her home about a month ago and “talked about going to the beach.”

The sheriff said they had no leads at this point on where the two are located.

Arrest warrant issued in Alabama for missing jail official

I wonder if she had moved out of her home so the new owners could move in. If yes, where was she living? Did she sell all of her possessions as well? Or was she still in her home until closing? Or perhaps she'd already closed on the house.

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

Pat Davis says her daughter had been staying with her for five weeks, ever since her daughter sold her home. She didn't notice anything different about Vicky leading up to her disappearance.

"I talked to her that morning. She called asking me about the dog because he had been sick," says Davis.

The last phone call she had with her daughter was a routine call about her dog.

More at Mother of missing Lauderdale Co. corrections officer describes last morning together

This just gets even more bizarre.

 

[Bessdrewtwo]

A mental break she planned for weeks, if not longer.

I see it at more as a break that might’ve happened after her ex, who she’d been helping, died in January.

Though I acknowledge she could’ve even been deep in with CW back when he stayed there in 2020.

 

[gitana1]

Possible, but then again, I'm 68, single, no kids, and don't have either of my parents. No way would I fall for a convicted killer, help him escape throwing away a pension I worked 25 years to get.

Yeah and I bet if you had had children, you wouldn’t have let your boyfriend torture them to death or sexually abuse them either, out of desperation for love of the wretch. And I also bet you wouldn’t plot to kill a woman in order to be with that woman’s man.

But we aren’t talking about what you would do. Or what I would do. We are talking about what some people sometimes do. And why certain things can be more important to some.

To that end, what I was specifically referring to is the notion that a plain-looking 56 year old woman, never married, no kids, an elderly mother, no evidence of any intimate partner in her life (except this convict) would be more likely to dream of retirement and relaxation instead of dreaming of love and attention.

Obviously many single people without kids are perfectly happy and fulfilled. And most of those who are lonely or unhappy with being child free and single, would never contemplate something as absurd as what she did.

But there are those desperate enough and excited enough by rarely won attention to do drastic, ridiculous and criminal things.

I think her life wasn’t that happy and fulfilling for her. I think the dream of love was more important to her than the dream of relaxing on a beach, all by herself. So important that she’d give up her life for that dream.

 

[wary]

I wonder if any people have come up missing with their vehicle also missing?

I wonder too. It’s only been a few days, and not everyone’s connected enough to have people report them missing immediately.

 

[sds71]

Here are the warrants

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.tow...-11ec-95b9-fb4dcfca5c12/6270509e79419.pdf.pdf

 

[Rednaxela]

I’m struggling to see the logic for her to forego her retirement plans through falling in love with a lifer inmate, that none of her colleagues saw coming.

Is it possible as an alternative that he has something to blackmail her with, and he jacked up the pressure right up to her last working day by threatening to expose whatever it is? “If you don’t help me, I’ll ruin you anyway” type of thing? Maybe even linked to the first escape plan?

JMO

 

[wary]

Here are the warrants

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.tow...-11ec-95b9-fb4dcfca5c12/6270509e79419.pdf.pdf

Warrants dated Friday, April 29th? There’d been a question about why it took so long to get a warrant for her. Looks like it didn’t, unless the date is wrong.

 

[Blondiexoxo]

IMO VW has no who she’s got herself involved with, she’s probably fell in love with the prisoner and not the ‘free man’. Up until now she’s not actually been alone with him. Now he’s on the outside he’s capable of anything. There are no guards, no eyes watching, no threat of punishment if he steps out of line. Right now he’s extremely dangerous and VW should have realised this, it would be naive not to think that CW would be the same person once no longer behind bars. You’d think after so long on the job VW would know that once released the large majority of these criminals are once again free to act in the same way they did before. CW is a dangerous man which is why he was in prison. He shouldn’t be walking free, he is not safe to be alone with. If VW is still alive she is most likely seeing a side to CW she hasn’t seen before, and she won’t like what she’s seeing. He’s now a desperate man and will be willing to do anything to avoid going back to prison for the rest of his life.

If he hasn’t already, I think he will be showing his true colours very soon. And whether it’s now or in a few days/weeks time, VW will end up majorly regretting her decision to help him. She will soon see exactly why this man was behind bars. His only focus from now on is avoiding going back to prison. And he will do whatever it takes to make sure he does not get captured. IMO VW is about to become his next victim if she hasn’t already, she had the keys to freedom and now he’s out she’s served her purpose. Either he’s very charming and convincing or she’s very gullible, maybe it’s a combination of both but you’d think VW would have known better after doing this job for so long. All MOO

 

[BeckyF]

If someone is inclined to do something like this, retirement income is probably not the first thing on her mind. It was a way to "tie up loose ends" and "do the right thing" like she has been doing forever. The fact she sold her house says volumes to me. That's $$$ in her pocket.

Who would throw away a pension you’ve worked hard for for 25 years? That isn’t ‘doing the right thing’ or ‘tying up loose ends’ IMO. It’s quite irresponsible.

 

[gitana1]

If I was in her shoes and valued not being locked up, I’d try to head for a border as soon as we departed (and before word spread).

Mexico, which would not extradite him if Alabama was seeking the death penalty, is a 24 hour drive from them. Because local investigators didn’t start piecing things together until 5:30 pm (and it probably took a couple more hours for the full pic to develop), a blue alert didn’t even go out until that evening. So it’s possible if they drove nearly straight through, they could’ve got across the border before this story gained much steam in the morning. (My friends and I did a 40 hour straight road trip with no overnight stops in college and I wouldn’t do it again unless my life was on the line - but they had the motivation).

Cuba - it’s a 13 hour road trip down to Miami, but there are a lot of regulations around travel to Cuba with legit charter companies requiring passengers to meet both US and Cuban regulations to go there it seems. Now I know there are illegitimate efforts that would be willing to boat people over to Havana (it’s only 250 nautical miles from the Florida mainland or like 90 from Key West, right?). But that doesn’t seem like the safest or surest route since those waters are patrolled and boats leaving US waters or entering Cuba’s without the appropriate permit are seized and the penalty is up to 10 years in prison. Cuba has allowed many US fugitives to stay there without extraditing them (although they technically made an extradition treaty with us in like 1904 or 1905).

Canada - Windsor is only 10 hours drive from Alabama. So they could’ve been crossing there by nightfall, potentially before this hit everyone’s radar. Canada also has discretion not to extradite someone unless the death penalty is taken off the table. There would likely be video footage at the checkpoint provided US officials could narrow down what sort of vehicle to look for. I guess they could’ve gotten across on a bus as well if they used fake identities, but someone would probably remember them if so.

Appalachians - they could make Weogufka and the lower end of the mountains in 3 hours. Butler, TN is 5 and a half hours drive. It’s 3.5 hours to Springer Mountain, Georgia.

If they were willing to chance an airport, they could go literally anywhere of course. But if they used their real IDs, the flight path would be found. And if they used alternative IDs, there’s still probably be camera footage out there to find — providing they weren’t masterfully disguised and didn’t raise any fellow passengers’ suspicion who saw the news the next day.

So even though I myself might shoot for Mexico — and then try to head elsewhere from there perhaps — I am betting they are in the mountains lying low for now.

Where do you think they are?

People can cross the border and the fly into Cuba from MX.


But I don’t think they did that.

Mexico is a possibility. Many low level criminals with no connection to the country, child molesters and parents who have kidnapped their kids, have fled to Mexico and resided there for years without detection.

But most of the time Americans on the run stay in the US.