See page 9. I wonder if she already withdrew cash benefits?
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THIS ^^^^ is what I've been thinking, as well. We need to flip the naive victim script to better understand these people and this event.![]()
Alabama attorney reflects on time working with Vicky White
A Lauderdale County attorney is speaking out after saying she worked with Vicky White for more than 10 years.www.wrbl.com
I wouldn't say sinister, but you spend as much time around prisoners as she did and be as successful at it as she was and she has to have thick emotional and mental carapace--or the prisoners would have chewed her up and spit her out long ago. They almost make it sound like she's teaching 2nd grade in there, "Casey didn't have lunch money one day and so she bought his lunch for him". She's dealing with all manner of criminals. Because they are criminal melting pots--guys with DUI's and murderers and white collar criminals and simple drug possession arrestees all mixed together--county lockups can be more chaotic and dangerous for prisoners and guards than state pens.
Interesting. Some of you would likely know better than me. But as a man, I was thinking maybe as a female officer among staff that seems to include a lot of men that she would maybe feel pressured to kinda be a “guy’s girl” — tough exterior; to stay unemotional; to go along with crass humor — that sort of thing. She may have empathized with prisoners more than she let on because she didn’t expect her peers to relate.I'm not really sure stereotypes play a role here. IMHO she simply believed /believes herself to be in love and to be loved in return. She wants to be with him and thinks she knows him well enough to trust and control him. I hope that works out for her up until they are both caught and arrested.
I definitely think that’s possible. People withdraw from their retirements for much lesser reasons (though it’s often not a fiscally sound decision). I know the question has been raised in these threads quite a few times, but I don’t think I’ve seen LE comment on it. It would be nice if a reporter would ask them directly if she withdrew any money from her retirement.See page 9. I wonder if she already withdrew cash benefits?
It would make a lot more sense why she didn’t care too much about leaving it behind. The handbook basically states if a person pulls out their money and then they are terminated, they lose their retirement. So she definitely could have already pulled out everything that had been hers:I definitely think that’s possible. People withdraw from their retirements for much lesser reasons (though it’s often not a fiscally sound decision). I know the question has been raised in these threads quite a few times, but I don’t think I’ve seen LE comment on it. It would be nice if a reporter would ask them directly if she withdrew any money from her retirement.
That’s not all motels. I’ve been to more than one that won’t check you in if you don’t have a credit card. It’s so that if there is damage to the room or other incidentals they need to bill you for, they have a credit card.I know this to be true. Hotels will accept cash. After Hurricane Katrina, a lot of cell phone towers and internet services were all down. We had to use cash at the hotel we evacuated to. No-tell Motels could and would definitely take cash.
That’s not all motels. I’ve been to more than one that won’t check you in if you don’t have a credit card. It’s so that if there is damage to the room or other incidentals they need to bill you for, they have a credit card.
I agree that a lot of hotels, rental car companies etc require deposits.Same here, iirc they deduct 500 from cc, then return it after checkout if room is ok.
They may have different mothers. One daughter is an older teen or young adult. Casey is apparently also a grandfather.Has the mother of CW’s children spoken out?
I think this is the likeliest possibility. The fewer people that see them, the fewer chances there are to be recognized and caught. Their best move is to get to their hideout ASAP and lay low for a bit. Hopefully, it is well-stocked. Later, if LE has not discovered them, they might want to hit the road again. I don't know why I keep thinking about the Tad Cummins case. He drove from Tennessee to California and traveled nearly the entire length (800 miles) of the Golden State before he was spotted and captured, 38 days after he abducted his victim. His strategy was to keep moving, and it worked. So that's another possibility. CW and VW have the advantage of a very good head start and pre-planning. If VW did indeed get a second vehicle, which I think is highly likely, and if she had rented or bought a cabin and stocked it, they'll be good to go for quite a while. I predicted six to eight weeks earlier and I'm sticking with that. It's been 10 days now, and unless LE knows WAY more than they are letting on, they have no idea where the pair are. JMHOI personally believe they are holed up somewhere in a carefully preplanned location/hideout. And as long as heat doesn't get too much on that front, I think they will stay where they are for a while, then make another likely preplanned move. I think VW planned this out very meticulously for a long time, and with her many years of experience in LE, she certainly has a good leg up on what I would refer to as "the average bear' with this sort of thing.
We don't know her, though. All we have to go on, is what's been released to the media. Her co-workers, though, do know her better than we do, and one of them said, that NONE of the co-workers are surprised at what she's done. He also said, she has a dark side, which seemed to be his way of explaining why no one was surprised.I honestly agree. I don’t really see her as sinister. She liked to be useful and feel needed IMHO. She could have genuinely thought she was helping this guy who actually hadn’t yet been fully convicted of murder. He probably claimed innocence. But MHO.
I’ve thought of Tad a million times too. This case won’t break until there is a sighting so they can establish a direction or region. Hopefully like in Tad’s case, a landlord or establishment owner will see this in the news and recognize them. That’s if they didn’t use touchless self check in and false names. Covid regulations could help people who want to avoid being seen these days.I think this is the likeliest possibility. The fewer people that see them, the fewer chances there are to be recognized and caught. Their best move is to get to their hideout ASAP and lay low for a bit. Hopefully, it is well-stocked. Later, if LE has not discovered them, they might want to hit the road again. I don't know why I keep thinking about the Tad Cummins case. He drove from Tennessee to California and traveled nearly the entire length (800 miles) of the Golden State before he was spotted and captured, 38 days after he abducted his victim. His strategy was to keep moving, and it worked. So that's another possibility. CW and VW have the advantage of a very good head start and pre-planning. If VW did indeed get a second vehicle, which I think is highly likely, and if she had rented or bought a cabin and stocked it, they'll be good to go for quite a while. I predicted six to eight weeks earlier and I'm sticking with that. It's been 10 days now, and unless LE knows WAY more than they are letting on, they have no idea where the pair are. JMHO
I read that too.I don’t have a source so MOO but I read that by firing her, it caused her to lose her pension. They did that purposely once they determined she wasn’t a hostage.
We don't know her, though. All we have to go on, is what's been released to the media. Her co-workers, though, do know her better than we do, and one of them said, that NONE of the co-workers are surprised at what she's done. He also said, she has a dark side, which seemed to be his way of explaining why no one was surprised.
Agreed. Plus with all of us, different people may perceive us different ways. I may even be nicer to certain people than I am to others, due to how well I know them or how they treat me. So they could all be telling the truth. Vicky, like the rest of us, is I am sure a multi-dimensional person who can’t be put in some simple box. She’s a bright and highly organized planner who got out in front of LE partly by exploiting what she knows about LE. She obviously has the capacity to hide a less-than-moral relationship for two years too, so to what extent she is capable of being sinister? We don’t really know.We don't know her, though. All we have to go on, is what's been released to the media. Her co-workers, though, do know her better than we do, and one of them said, that NONE of the co-workers are surprised at what she's done. He also said, she has a dark side, which seemed to be his way of explaining why no one was surprised.
I think a statement by someone who worked with her daily should carry some credibility. Some. The fact that it doesn't square with her lawyer's impression and her relatives' statements could indicate, that she showed a different side of herself at work. It's puzzling, but I can't completely discount that former co-worker's observations.
I personally believe they are holed up somewhere in a carefully preplanned location/hideout. And as long as heat doesn't get too much on that front, I think they will stay where they are for a while, then make another likely preplanned move. I think VW planned this out very meticulously for a long time, and with her many years of experience in LE, she certainly has a good leg up on what I would refer to as "the average bear' with this sort of thing.
IIRC the sheriff refuted that statement. He said there were phone calls but no in person visits.This is a good point. One thing that VW supposedly did that I find appalling is prison visits. I recall her boss saying on TV that VW actually visited CW in prison. Did she use an alias when checking in? A disguise? Surely the prison has either surveillance footage or recordings of VW’s visits to CW.
If cop pensions in Alabama are the same as LE pensions elsewhere, by retiring when she did with a clean record up to retirement, she may well have locked in her retirement for life--even if she ends up in prison.
I recall the Chicago cop Jon Burge who eventually was convicted of torturing innocent perps into false confessions--often in brutal ways, including guns to the head and electric shocks to genitals, never missed a single one of his $4,000 a month pension checks, even during his 5 years in prison. Collected his pension until he died.