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Hannah Gutierrez has been in CYA mode since this tragedy happened. MOO
I agree! Who on set hasn't?
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Hannah Gutierrez has been in CYA mode since this tragedy happened. MOO
Why is the FBI involved in this? This was raised by the guest attorney last night on the video with Dan Abrams.
AFAIK Hannah Gutierrez is the only one who has lied to investigators.I agree! Who on set hasn't?
AFAIK Hannah Gutierrez is the only one who has lied to investigators.
Hannah Gutierrez told investigators there was no live ammo on set. And she is the head armorer, that is her responsibility.What did she lie about?
Based on what I have read so far, I don't see that she has lied. She allegedly said that live rounds SHOULDn't be on the set. Which is correct. I'm unsure if she said that there WERE NO live rounds on the set, which would clearly be incorrect. But let there be no doubt, she is in serious trouble here. It was her job to ensure that gun was safe and she failed. And I am beginning to believe that her failure here likely does rise to a criminal level.What did she lie about?
Hannah Gutierrez told investigators there was no live ammo on set. And she is the head armorer, that is her responsibility.
Alec Baldwin ‘Rust’ shooting: Investigation focusing on where live rounds came from: LIVE UPDATES
If you read the affidavit, that's not what she said.
Armorer Hannah Gutierrez Reed previously told investigators that no live ammo is kept on set. However, given that a live round was recovered from director Joel Souza's shoulder after the incident, the Sheriff called that statement "not accurate as far as I'm concerned."
From the article I linked
Thanks for sharing. This was a very interesting video. So the attorney feels there will most likely be some time of charges. Most likely not murder charges but some type of charges.Starting about 4 minutes in a Santa Fe CDA is on
Edited. So I just now read a new article that states she did indeed tell investigators that there was no live ammo on the set. That is clearly an incorrect statement. Did she lie, or did she not know of live ammo? It almost doesn't matter in my opinion. It was her job to know, and her job to ensure there were no live rounds in that gun. She didn't do it. Does that rise to the reckless level standard needed for criminal charges? I would say it does.
And the Sheriff rebuked her publicly hahaHannah Gutierrez told investigators there was no live ammo on set. And she is the head armorer, that is her responsibility.
Alec Baldwin ‘Rust’ shooting: Investigation focusing on where live rounds came from: LIVE UPDATES
Gray Hughes has been covering the case for the last few nights, and gave a clever analogy.
Say you were a surgeon. You go in for an operation and ask a technician for a scalpel. Are you going to inspect and/or test the scalpel before you cut into your patient? No, your job is to focus on operating, not inspecting the tools you are using to operate. You heavily rely on your techs to have inspected all the tools before going into such a situation.
Alec had a job in this particular situation, and that was to act, to the best of his ability. Should he have checked the gun, considering he was a producer on the movie? Maybe? Not likely though. His job in that moment was to act. There were 2 other people the gun was passed through before AB was handed it, and both of those 2 people did have jobs to check the gun. He relied on both of them to hand him a safe gun. Unfortunately, they both failed him.
I do not have a very high opinion of AB as a person, but I do not find him responsible for the accidental shooting. I think it's an absolute tragedy, and I hope he finds a way to live with what he's done.
The AD on the other hand...very interesting that he has been on 2 sets with "accidental" shootings. The fact that he was AD on "The Crow: Salvation" is a crazy bizarre coincidence, too! I'm not calling him responsible (yet), but knowing that the armorer was young and new, and people were walking off the set due to safety issues with firearms, he absolutely should have inspected (and then inspected again!) the barrel to double check her. He was negligent, at best, and has the attention of my side-eye.
Alec Baldwin Fatal Shooting Film AD Was Fired Before For Gun Discharge – Deadline
I agree! I struggle with the excuse of ' I'm and actor...and I don't have time to be bothered with safety'.....I have my lines to remember....so someone else should be responsible..not me'
Why is this profession 'excused' from performing any safety procedures/protocols themselves? Especially with potential deadly weapons.
Elitism ?
‘Rust’ Armorer Allegedly Made Nicolas Cage Storm Off Set After Firing Gun Without Warning
The armorer who handled weapons on the set of the Alec Baldwin film Rust, reportedly received numerous complaints on prior productions and once prompted Nicolas Cageto storm off set, the Wrap reports.
Sources who have previously worked with 24-year-old armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed told the outlet that she received a number of complaints on different sets prior to the accident on the set of Rust that killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and injured director Joel Souza. Of particular note, key grip Stu Brumbaugh said that Gutierrez-Reed infuriated crew members and Nicolas Cage on the set of The Old Way, which shot in Montana over the summer.
The armorer allegedly failed to follow basic firearm safety protocols, including the announcement of weapon usage on set. During one particular incident, Brumbaugh said that Cage yelled at her for failing to announce the usage of a weapon for the second time in three days. “Make an announcement, you just blew my eardrums out!” Cage reportedly said before walking off set. Brumbaugh said that after the incident, he told the assistant director that Gutierrez-Reed “needs to be let go.”
I personally think it's too early to know who brought actual bullets onto the set. LE may know and we can speculate but we really don't know.Hannah Gutierrez told investigators there was no live ammo on set. And she is the head armorer, that is her responsibility.
Alec Baldwin ‘Rust’ shooting: Investigation focusing on where live rounds came from: LIVE UPDATES
My brother-in-law is a surgeon, he checks all instruments and prep before they begin surgery, I think all surgeons do. Yes, he relies on the nurses to hand him the right instrument but he knows if the wrong instrument is put in his hand and he will not proceed if that happens.
I understand AB is acting, I don’t understand that that the actual actor holding the gun being required to open the gun/being verified the gun was indeed empty in conjunction with the AD/armourer is not part of the safety protocol. Repeating myself, but that is gun safety 101. I personally think it’s a pretty lousy excuse to say somebody does not have the time or the mental space to do one more safety check when they’re handling a deadly fire arm. I hope that changes in the future. The unsafe atmosphere on the set, the way it was allowed to run, cutting corners to save money, all contributed to this senseless death and as one of the producers, Alec will be liable for that. MOO
"“During the course of filming, Hannah advised she handed the gun to Alec Baldwin a couple times, and also handed it to (assistant director) David Halls,” the affidavit says. When asked by an investigator “about live ammo on set, Hannah responded no live ammo is ever kept on set.”"It doesn't matter what the article says. Clearly they got it wrong since it's not stated in the affidavit.
But it's her job to check what's in the gun. And if she did that, live bullet wouldn't have been in the gun given to Baldwin.I personally think it's too early to know who brought actual bullets onto the set. LE may know and we can speculate but we really don't know.
I'm pretty sure it's not HG's job to check everyone's pockets and backpacks as they come onto the set. Like any work place, people talk. I believe there were enough people on the set who knew about the target shooting and will tell LE who brought the live ammunition onto the set. We'll know in time.
I personally think it's too early to know who brought actual bullets onto the set. LE may know and we can speculate but we really don't know.
I'm pretty sure it's not HG's job to check everyone's pockets and backpacks as they come onto the set. Like any work place, people talk. I believe there were enough people on the set who knew about the target shooting and will tell LE who brought the live ammunition onto the set. We'll know in time.