So according to this article there must have been a protocol that should have been followed. Since this was a location manager for Rust I'm assuming he or she would know. The gun should have been checked by at least 4 people. That obviously wasn't done or we wouldn't be discussing this. Heartbreaking.
Different crew members are saying different things. I wouldn't count on this one knowing what the protocol is.
It makes sense to me. Earlier in the thread there were many people who work in the industry describing the same thing. Multiple checks by multiple people. Obviously this gun wasn't checked, even once.
And if he was practicing a cross-draw, nearly that entire room should have been cleared. A cross-draw would involve the barrel of that gun crossing from behind AB, entirely across the room until the gun was pointed in front of him at the camera. To follow the basic safety rule of not pointing it at anyone would require there to have been no people in the entire path that the barrel if the gun took while being pulled out and aimed. ...of course waiting to do that would have taken more time and could have set them even further behind...
As far as I can tell, not pointing the gun at anyone, while a good practice in real life, really doesn't work on the movie set.
Yes we are hearing lots of variations. That was the first time I had read the key grip should have checked it too. I asked my SO who works camera dept and has previously been a grip, and that was news to him. He said he had never known the key grip to check the guns on any set he has worked on that had firearms. He said that's the armourer's job. Although grips are certainly responsible for other safety aspects.
I've seen stories claiming armorer should have had guns in her possession at all times. To me it looks like the guns were left outside un-attended. They might have gone to lunch during which nobody was watching the guns.
The guns being left on a tray boggles my mind. I wonder if we are missing some info. Where was the armourer at that time? Even if she had other responsibilities on set (which she shouldn't have had in the first place), I can't imagine they would even rehearse a scene involving guns without her there. I am interested to find out more.
Sure it does. If you use a remote camera. JMO.
I have seen/read a lot of interviews with directors, producers, prop managers and armorers since this shooting, all saying what is "supposed" to happen. And they all seem to be a little different. So I am guessing that there is a general protocol to be followed. I don't know if that is in writing somewhere or not. but given the different explanations, I am also guessing that how those rules are actually followed an applied varies greatly. You can have all the safety regulations in the world, but they wont do any good in they are not followed, by EVERY one, EVERY single time. We still don't know all the facts here, just beginning to find out some really. But clearly there were a lot of breakdowns by multiple people here.
The cart with guns was supposedly outside because of covid protocols. Which really doesn't make sense to me, because cart is not going to infect anyone with covid. So why would it have to be outside?
Thank you, I hadn't heard that before. Covid protocols are important on set but you don't sacrifice one safety aspect for another surely. The armourer should have been with the guns wherever they were. That doesn't make sense to me. I don't see how that workaround would have improved Covid safety anyway. Usually on film sets now everyone is regularly tested and can only work with a negative result. Not sure what the protocols are in New Mexico though.
I would not agree. There are a lot of people at fault here I believe. We still need to learn a lot of facts, but it is clear that there were a LOT of breakdowns here.
Guns are not supposed to be left un-attended.
Depends on whether your priority is the safety of your crew and coworkers & actors, or if it's to make upnfor lost time and to complete a movie as cheaply as possible.
