All About George

[bunnyphoenix1]

The bottom line is he did not follow what he knew full well was proper LE procedure! He got in that car and corrupted the crime scene-with his fingerprints and later at home C&G doing their own little clean up operation. What did they harp on in the OJ case-corruption of a crime scene!! There is no excuse for an ex-LE (supposedly homocide det.) to act that way. Just because there was no body in the trunk does not mean someone was not killed in that car(possibly KC or Caylee or both). Didn't he think that he might be destroying evidence of a perp who may have done his daughter and GD in? Or maybe he already knew!!! If this doesn't make any sense to us-imagine how LE and the FBI feel?:snooty:

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[RevCrim]

I can't help but wonder- On the 24th when GA called LE re-gas cans stolen-

GA had a problem recalling exact day- Per phone records, KC arrived around 2:30 ish-
KC was on the PC by 2:40 or sooner- and still on line at 2:46- but......by 2:59---just 13 minutes later KC was near Chickasaw Trial- this is normally about a 16 minute run.

I think GA smelled or saw something in KC's trunk during the gas can incident, and when GA asked what the smell was, KC panicked and fled. By the time GA got his car out of the garage and chased her, she was gone.
I think the chase was at this time. Makes more sense. GA may not have seen Kaylee's body, but the smell was there.

On the 25th- knowing her goose is about cooked, who does KC tell about the smell- not her boyfriend- but AH

On the 26th- KC begins her next move to cover herself and calls M.Hawkins in CA. On the 27th ditches the car with AH's number and papers in it. Setting up a kidnapping scene.

 

[okiedokietoo]

There is a puzzle piece missing. Why didn't GA immediately call LE? CA had tried to get KC on phone that day without success and had to get AH to take her to where she thought KC was. GA went to work? Does not make sense.

 

[Leila]

I can't help but wonder- On the 24th when GA called LE re-gas cans stolen-

GA had a problem recalling exact day- Per phone records, KC arrived around 2:30 ish-
KC was on the PC by 2:40 or sooner- and still on line at 2:46- but......by 2:59---just 13 minutes later KC was near Chickasaw Trial- this is normally about a 16 minute run.

I think GA smelled or saw something in KC's trunk during the gas can incident, and when GA asked what the smell was, KC panicked and fled. By the time GA got his car out of the garage and chased her, she was gone.
I think the chase was at this time. Makes more sense. GA may not have seen Kaylee's body, but the smell was there.

On the 25th- knowing her goose is about cooked, who does KC tell about the smell- not her boyfriend- but AH

On the 26th- KC begins her next move to cover herself and calls M.Hawkins in CA. On the 27th ditches the car with AH's number and papers in it. Setting up a kidnapping scene.

It does make more sense that the car chase happened on the 24th. On July 15th after Cindy had found Casey and Casey had all sorts of excuses to why she couldn't take Cindy directly to Caylee, during that first 911 call, Casey asked Cindy for "just one more day." Cindy refused. If Cindy had caved in and had given Casey just one more day to produce Caylee, I think Casey would have fled. She may have tried to make her way to California and Mark H.

 

[RevCrim]

It does make more sense that the car chase happened on the 24th. On July 15th after Cindy had found Casey and Casey had all sorts of excuses to why she couldn't take Cindy directly to Caylee, during that first 911 call, Casey asked Cindy for "just one more day." Cindy refused. If Cindy had caved in and had given Casey just one more day to produce Caylee, I think Casey would have fled. She may have tried to make her way to California and Mark H.

You nailed it ! I have no doubt she wanted to flee. Also when she talked to LE on the 15th and spun her web of lies, I think she told them whatever, thinking she just wanted to get home and make her escape. Didn't happen.
It wasn't until after she was arrested that the story began to change. She had time to think of a story.

 

[Boston]

Why didn't George notice the Decomp smell on the 24th when KC threw the Gas Cans at him?

I'm not sure but I think KC was already telling her friends "The Squirrel Story" by then so her car was smelling.

George admits that he walked right up to the rear bumper -

I find it odd that he didn't notice any odor & this was only 3 days before KC abandoned the car

 

[Boston]

It does make more sense that the car chase happened on the 24th. On July 15th after Cindy had found Casey and Casey had all sorts of excuses to why she couldn't take Cindy directly to Caylee, during that first 911 call, Casey asked Cindy for "just one more day." Cindy refused. If Cindy had caved in and had given Casey just one more day to produce Caylee, I think Casey would have fled. She may have tried to make her way to California and Mark H.

I think she was planning to flee to Cali also - She knew that she would have to account for Caylee sooner or later & if she was out of state nobody would be wondering where Caylee was

 

[passionflower]

The bottom line is he did not follow what he knew full well was proper LE procedure! He got in that car and corrupted the crime scene-with his fingerprints and later at home C&G doing their own little clean up operation. What did they harp on in the OJ case-corruption of a crime scene!! There is no excuse for an ex-LE (supposedly homocide det.) to act that way. Just because there was no body in the trunk does not mean someone was not killed in that car(possibly KC or Caylee or both). Didn't he think that he might be destroying evidence of a perp who may have done his daughter and GD in? Or maybe he already knew!!! If this doesn't make any sense to us-imagine how LE and the FBI feel?:snooty:

that is why he should be behind jail bars also...he KNEW better!
GA knew he was doing a coverup!:sick:

 

[passionflower]

I think she was planning to flee to Cali also - She knew that she would have to account for Caylee sooner or later & if she was out of state nobody would be wondering where Caylee was

the beautiful NEW lifein Calif

 

[essies]

the beautiful NEW lifein Calif

Wow-Good one!! Put's a whole new meaning to the tat! Thought it was a memorial to Caylee-silly me!! Caylee's history now-here's to the future!! Yeah-how's the future looking now KC?:razz:

 

[TURBOTHINK]

That's what I keep coming back to, except that if he really had no idea what was in that trunk (or in this case, knew what WAS NOT in that trunk, thus making it safe to open it and gain a witness to the "no body" line of BS in so doing,) instead of his calling 911, I can see him first "waiting" to get to the privacy of his own home to see what horrible things he may find, before deciding to place the call to 911...

He KNEW that body was beneath the carpet in the wheel well. He had to get home to decide how and where to dispose of it. He did not tell CA, so while he was gone to work, she called LE. My guess is he put it in a sealed bucket or container and took it with him when he left for work to dispose of it.

Or............he had found it previously (24th and the story was made up about that day and the gas cans) and had already disposed of it.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Why didn't George notice the Decomp smell on the 24th when KC threw the Gas Cans at him?

I'm not sure but I think KC was already telling her friends "The Squirrel Story" by then so her car was smelling.

George admits that he walked right up to the rear bumper -

I find it odd that he didn't notice any odor & this was only 3 days before KC abandoned the car

That was ALSO the day he told the FBI he "chased" KC in CA's car but there were no speedpass records of HIS car. I have been thinking that he followed KC driving Cindy's car with HER car. KC's car had no speedpass, just GA & CA's car had the speedpasses.

And that is when he realized there was a body in the trunk. He took care of the body from there.

 

[simplesimon]

I don't know, I think I really liked George and felt really sorry for him, but
after reading all the statements, my "hinky meter" goes off. All the talk about the smell in the trunk being a body by both him and CA but they open windows to air it out, Lee just goes into hysterics talking about the horrible smell,and go home and clean out the car and wash clothes???and he was in LE??
And the other thing that really was a WTF moment. He was caught up in a Nigerian scam and lost lots of $$$$$ !!!did I mention WTF????
This guy was in LE??
I just don't get George..he looks so distinguished and normal. i guess it shows the truth is you can not judge a book by the cover

 

[GenealogyKR]

I don't know, I think I really liked George and felt really sorry for him, but
after reading all the statements, my "hinky meter" goes off. All the talk about the smell in the trunk being a body by both him and CA but they open windows to air it out, Lee just goes into hysterics talking about the horrible smell,and go home and clean out the car and wash clothes???and he was in LE??
And the other thing that really was a WTF moment. He was caught up in a Nigerian scam and lost lots of $$$$$ !!!did I mention WTF????
This guy was in LE??
I just don't get George..he looks so distinguished and normal. i guess it shows the truth is you can not judge a book by the cover

Remember what LE said to him during an interview? George, I bet you know alot about alot of things.

 

[Bev]

Imo, KC is exactly like GA - they're both habitually lying, manipulative parasites. I noticed in watching the police/FBI/TV interviews that whoever he's with, that's whose side he's on; if he's with the FBI then the OCLE is the bad guy, when he's with OCLE then CA is the bad guy and when he's with CA then everyone is the bad guy.

From the beginning this family has displayed the symptoms of a family in the midst of one adult's addiction while the other is the enabler who covers up and provides the protection for the other - it is classic behavior exhibited by every member of the family - deny and coverup. This is why, imo, that CA never confronted KC about her behavior, if she did, CA would have to confront her own behavior in enabling years of GA's behavior. Neither CA nor GA had or have the moral authority to question KC's behavior because if they did or do they risk whatever equilibrium they've achieved over the years, especially the last couple years.

Is CA in denial about KC and her causing this tragedy? Of course, that is her coping mechanism and obviously has been for years. She isn't going to change, in fact none of them will change because none of them will, because change involves confronting the real problem which is the addiction. What I find really interesting is that in their desperation to appear as a "normal" family, they're doing anything but that.

 

[Dutchie Treat]

There is a puzzle piece missing. Why didn't GA immediately call LE? CA had tried to get KC on phone that day without success and had to get AH to take her to where she thought KC was. GA went to work? Does not make sense.

A number of scenarios cross my mind:

1. GA has had cause in the past to be afraid of KC.

2. GA has been worried about things like:
a) stealing money from E V E R Y B O D Y
b) stealing gas
c) wild nights out partying when she should be home being a mother
d) no job
e) changing boyfriends like he changes his socks
f) perhaps getting into drugs

3. When GA smelled decomp, because of the above reasons, he immediately suspected KC. That's why he didn't call 911.

Why would a parent do that? Because they have had cause to suspect this possibility in the past. GA has probably been worried at some time in the past that KC could do something to destroy the grandparent relationship. He was not probably thinking as drastic as murder but more like moving away and taking Caylee and not telling them where they were. If KC could just disappear for 31 days at a time WITH Caylee and they didn't notify LE, then they have experienced these lapses before.

Any "normal" parent would have immediately called 911. Not because they suspected their own child necessarily, but because their child (or in this case, grandchild) may be the source of the decomp smell. I think he already knew from the moment he smelled decomp that KC was the perp.

JMO

 

[mom2chloe]

He KNEW that body was beneath the carpet in the wheel well. He had to get home to decide how and where to dispose of it. He did not tell CA, so while he was gone to work, she called LE. My guess is he put it in a sealed bucket or container and took it with him when he left for work to dispose of it.

Or............he had found it previously (24th and the story was made up about that day and the gas cans) and had already disposed of it.

I think he knew too, but how? Did he know on the 24th? Where are the tire wedges he alleges he wanted to look for that day? Remember the video of when the cops went to the house to get GA's gun that we now know they retrieved from the house? Why were they looking in GA's trunk? Were they collecting the tire wedges for forensic testing? His story about the tire wedges has always been hinky to me. He talks about how he always tightens down the wheel well cover. Could KC have needed the shovel to pry open the wheel well? Why the story about the car chase? Was that intended to explain why somebody drove like a bat out of he$$ out of the Anthony's driveway or was it to allude to the fact that someone else had possession of KC's car since she was supposedly driving CA's 4runner?

 

[Georgia101957]

He KNEW that body was beneath the carpet in the wheel well. He had to get home to decide how and where to dispose of it. He did not tell CA, so while he was gone to work, she called LE. My guess is he put it in a sealed bucket or container and took it with him when he left for work to dispose of it.

Or............he had found it previously (24th and the story was made up about that day and the gas cans) and had already disposed of it.

I agree with your first theory. And you know that car was sparkling clean when LE towed it in. It didn't look like a car that had been sitting in a tow yard for 2+ weeks. While CA was out hunting down KC, he could have taken the car to a car wash, disposed of her there (I agree in a bucket of some sort) powerwashed the car, scrubbed the tire well (It's not carpeted) scrubbed the carpet as best possible and vacuumed.

moo

 

[manatee]

GA sounds like he is constantly begging KC to tell the truth...that no matter what she is loved. It is so sad!

 

[sua_sponte]

I posted this in another thread, but I'll try it here too.
Has anyone discussed how GA would have known that the car was out of gas? When he went to the tow yard to pick it up, he had the gas cans with him. This implies that he knew ahead of time that he would need to fill it up before he could drive it home.

We know he doesn't approve of driving around with gas cans in the car from the story about getting the stolen gas cans back from KC.

What do you all think?