All Texas Equusearch-Related Filings #1

[Aedrys]

I didn't read the whole thing, and after reading that one section about TES documents, I don't want to read anymore.

First, they have the gall to act like total victims and that TES wouldn't work with them AT ALL. Then, and I cannot believe they said this, they were whining about how the media distracted them so much they couldn't talk or do their job. LIKE THAT EVER STOPPED THEM BEFORE! I thought they couldn't do their job without a camera in their faces! SUCH BS!

Oh, but that wasn't the worst of it. No, they had to go even lower, and were complete and utter JERKS (I really mean another word that starts with an "a" and ends with "holes") about the searchers on the same page where they talked about what "transpired" when they went to see the TES documents (8 27). Yes, everyone should just put themselves up for scrutiny by YOU since they want to do the right thing and find a missing child. Yes, it's so ABSURD that people want to help other and people and then NOT be torn apart by YOU or the MEDIA! OMG that makes me so ANGRY!

I am so done with this defense. None them have a human soul, not ONE of them. Casey, you picked the perfect people to represent you, people JUST LIKE YOU. I hope they all rot...Hey "boys," I can't wait to see JP rip you all new ones over this motion and you SO DESERVE IT.

 

[logicalgirl]

Here is the link to the doc -

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html

Gosh darn it Beach I WAS going to put that link in - ya beat me to it! LOL

 

[QB.]

Why are they so intent on having this motion heard again, its been denied more than once and arrangements were made to go and view the records without making copies. Is it the copies they want? What do they want exactly?

 

[logicalgirl]

Why are they so intent on having this motion heard again, its been denied more than once and arrangements were made to go and view the records without making copies. Is it the copies they want? What do they want exactly?

They want the originals - all 4000 - in their (Baez's) offices for an undetermined length of time so they can thoroughly investigate all 4000 of them. Nothing less.

 

[Turnadot]

It bothers me on an ethical level that the wonderful people who gave up their own time to search for that baby are on the verge of their lives being torn apart by this defense. Bless those searchers hearts, and God bless them. Caylee's own mother, for 31 days was busy heaving in the toilet and grinding in Fusion, while her child was "missing". Strangers upon learning Caylee was missing, were more concerned for her little girl than KC was, and now the defense wants to screw them over, imo, it's revolting and it hurts my heart.

 

[logicalgirl]

Very strange motion IMO. Regarding the review of TES documents, item #26(b) states the four boxes presented to them had no labels, inventories, indexes or descriptions. #26(c) states that the TES monitor did not allow Baez and Mason to view the two largest boxes which "apparently contained the very subject matter that the defense was after."

OK, my question is, how do they know what those two boxes contained if they were not labeled in any way and they were not allowed to "view" them? I am looking forward to hearing a reply from this monitor and Mr. Nejame on what really happened in that office that day.

He says he saw the word Suburban on the top of a couple of them.

Baez et al also always forget to mention, that Mr. Nejame, in complete frustration over the Defenses stalling, had the 34 searchers pertinent data photocopied and I believe he delivered it to Baez's offices himself.

 

[Dignity4Victims]

Why are they so intent on having this motion heard again, its been denied more than once and arrangements were made to go and view the records without making copies. Is it the copies they want? What do they want exactly?

They want access to all 4000 searchers, and their "intent" is clearly stated in this Motion.

"All the defense wants to do is learn the identity of these people so they can be contacted to determine if they, like Jordan and Buchanan, and those whose names could not be "noted" from the prior viewing, actually searched the relevant area or not." - page 9, (29).

This is nothing more than a witch-hunt; a vile attempt to disrupt the lives and defile the reputations of volunteer searchers who gave of their own time in hopes of giving Caylee the much needed dignity of recovery.

 

[Dear Prudence]

They want the originals - all 4000 - in their (Baez's) offices for an undetermined length of time so they can thoroughly investigate all 4000 of them. Nothing less.

Exactly!
They don't want only the records which they can prove are reasonable to request. They want all of them. I believe they are hoping to find a random searcher who will say they searched Suburban Drive and nothing was there even if it wasn't in TES records - just like Laura Buchanan.

 

[Anais]

The defense is OBSESSED .... totally obsessed with getting their hands on these TES docs. It seriously makes me think that should they never get a chance to get those docs in their hands, then the defense is out of options. Like there is no Plan B. Why the desperation? :waitasec:


Personally, I don't believe a word of it until I get to hear Mark NeJame's side of it. As to the docs not being indexed or organized in any fashion, well...that is the way it goes. Seriously. When I worked on the tobacco litigation, the docs were exactly like that. It was like looking for a needle in a haystack. Tedious, tedious work. So what? MN is not obligated to make the defense's job easy, especially considering they are looking for one (or more) of the TES searchers to throw to the wolves in the name of 'reasonable doubt'.

I find it beyond ironic that Cheney Mason chose to use the word 'babysit' when referring to the monitor. He needs a thesaurus. Bad, bad word choice. Lest we forget that at the heart of this case is a precious child who was supposedly kidnapped by the babysitter that the DEFENDANT - their client - left her with.

ITA and lets not forget the SAO went and sat for 5-6 hours to go through it all and managed just fine. Baez doesn't want to have to work at all. Everything is always everyone else's fault-it should come on a silver platter. :nono: Sorry Mr. Baez it doesn't work that way and you are going to find this out real swiftly....:gavel:

 

[cuppy199]

Why are they so intent on having this motion heard again, its been denied more than once and arrangements were made to go and view the records without making copies. Is it the copies they want? What do they want exactly?

They want there cake and eat it to.IMO They want to bring ever motion that JS denied. They want to win as many as possible so they can feel like the big winners and rub it JS face.IMO the defense is acting like immature children that wants the last word. I heard all this praise about Mason but I have yet to see it.:waitasec:

 

[The World According]

They want access to all 4000 searchers, and their "intent" is clearly stated in this Motion.

"All the defense wants to do is learn the identity of these people so they can be contacted to determine if they, like Jordan and Buchanan, and those whose names could not be "noted" from the prior viewing, actually searched the relevant area or not." - page 9, (29).

This is nothing more than a witch-hunt; a vile attempt to disrupt the lives and defile the reputations of volunteer searchers who gave of their own time in hopes of giving Caylee the much needed dignity of recovery.

Yes, exactly, in the midst of the constant putting down of Mr. Nejame and Judge Strickland they slipped up and admitted what they really wanted was the contact info for all the searchers, not at all to look and find who may have been in the relevant area. It is a fishing expedition, of biblical proportions. Mr. Mason believes he can make a better run at bat than Baez did, so he wants do overs, plain and simple.
The defense may be a little punch drunk from what they perceive as victories today with the budget hearing. I don't know why, the judge let them know in overt clues the magic formula he was going to use was if they would say their expert had completed sixty percent of their work. Clearly if he deemed that to be the lesser expense than hiring someone new to start all over again...all they needed to do was follow that example for each expert. Good grief. It was pretty predictable. Overturning everything Judge Strickland ruled on not only once but twice may be a wholly different outcome.

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

The whole thing does sound strange. I will feel much better after we hear MN's version of the occurrences of April 23rd.

I highly resent JB trying to represent my wishes for anonymity. He has no right to try to speak for me or judge my wishes as "absurd." I may have been willing to sacrifice my identity had I been the one to find sweet Caylee but that does not mean I want it revealed to the public to enhance the defense's fishing trip. According to JB's statement in this new motion, I am not considered a "reasonable person."

Grrrrrrrrr. I better stop here cuz it's really, really making me angry.

 

[JSR]

Exactly!
They don't want only the records which they can prove are reasonable to request. They want all of them. I believe they are hoping to find a random searcher who will say they searched Suburban Drive and nothing was there even if it wasn't in TES records - just like Laura Buchanan.

No, what I think they really want is to do a criminal record search on all 4,000 searchers. That's all they want. They're hoping one of those 4,000 people has a conviction or had a criminal charge against a child. They're hoping just one pedophile was in that 4,000. And then point the finger at that person. That's why they're fighting so hard to get these 4,000 records.

 

[Spangle]

After seeing this Judge work, it's easy to see what his ruling will be. He is by the book. This will be denied.

JB clearly states he is on a fishing trip through those boxes. JS clearly has said that wouldn't be allowed. IT has been discussed WHY in court. Everyone understands the why, except JB.

There is no reason for JP to change the courts ruling on this. JP has shown he is smart enough to 'get it.' The court has all ready granted what the defense NEEDS, while protecting the innocent and future searches.

AS far as not being about to discuss the files because of lip reader.. good grief! What is there to discuss.. either the person searched near the body, or they did not. That is ALL they were to be searching those files for. IF they found a file of a person who searched near where the body was found, all they had to do was write that name down and turn it over to the judge. No need for NOTES or discussion. This isn't rocket science.

 

[JSR]

- It's quite possible that MN did call the media on CM and JB. he has no reason not to. It is certainly in no way a violation of the judges order, and I can see where it would be to his benefit to have an independent witness in the event of trouble if CM and JB showed up to view documents unannonced in an attempt to intimidate his staff. (gee we couldn't possibly imagine CM attempting to intimidate staff to give him what he wants, could we?). MN could certainly alert the media to something interesting going on at his office, so long as he doesn't let them in the door.

Snipped by me

Your entire post is spot on.

Although on the above scenerio I see JB is the more likely culprit of calling the media and not MN. I don't trust JB for as far as I can throw the little man (which trust me isn't far) ....

 

[mitzi]

Exactly!
They don't want only the records which they can prove are reasonable to request. They want all of them. I believe they are hoping to find a random searcher who will say they searched Suburban Drive and nothing was there even if it wasn't in TES records - just like Laura Buchanan.

I don't even think the defense is looking for a searcher who searched Suburban Drive at all...they are looking for any searcher/(s) who have any sort of criminal background, (no matter where their forms stated they searched), so they can find any and every possible SODDI to blame this on. :furious:

 

[mitzi]

No, what I think they really want is to do a criminal record search on all 4,000 searchers. That's all they want. They're hoping one of those 4,000 people has a conviction or had a criminal charge against a child. They're hoping just one pedophile was in that 4,000. And then point the finger at that person. That's why they're fighting so hard to get these 4,000 records.

Bold mine.

BINGO! Just got to your post! ITA with you!

Geez! I can't believe that Mark NeJame has to file another reply to this motion and appear in court AGAIN! :furious: Although, I have to say, I am looking forward to him mopping the floor again with JB and now Mason too.

 

[zoey]

Okay this is going over the same 'ol same 'ol....I thought yesterday the Judge hinted a few times that depos need to be taken of witnesses...the defense continues on these "fishing" expeditions.....

How many times can they keep doing this?????? I don't know about anyone else BUT if it were granted----I would never volunteer my time to anyone for anything based upon how any of the volunteers have been treated..the one person who shoulda been helpin.......didn't and yet.....:furious::banghead:

 

[The World According]

They want access to all 4000 searchers, and their "intent" is clearly stated in this Motion.

"All the defense wants to do is learn the identity of these people so they can be contacted to determine if they, like Jordan and Buchanan, and those whose names could not be "noted" from the prior viewing, actually searched the relevant area or not." - page 9, (29).

This is nothing more than a witch-hunt; a vile attempt to disrupt the lives and defile the reputations of volunteer searchers who gave of their own time in hopes of giving Caylee the much needed dignity of recovery.

Ah, an admission...at last...all they want is to contact each and every one of them....well that is the alpha and the omega for anyone wondering why in the world they are still standing on their heads. It is clear in Mason's motion that the hope they can have the jury infer that Caylee's body was put there while Casey was jailed IS their entire defense. Zanny who?

I hope, meanwhile, that George learned that it was divulged in this hearing that the mitigation specialist has spent time visiting with his family members...that was not to pick up on family recipes. He better get a helmet, imo.

You just can't make this stuff up!

 

[Aedrys]

What just kills me about this motion is the overall tone of it. JP makes them shake in their tight boots in court, yet they dare to take a snarky, snotty, entitled tone in the motion? Yeah, that kind of language is going to win the judge over, boys. You might as well stomp your feet and pitch a fit in the courtroom like two year olds when you argue it!

When are they going to learn that how you say or write something is just as important, if not more, than what you write or say? It's like my mom used to say, "Don't talk to me in that tone of voice!" The same goes for writing. Tone can make or break an argument, and if I was the judge, I'd deny this on the unprofessional and disrespectful tone alone.