Anita Rose, 57, walking her dog, police investigating suspected murder, Brantham, Suffolk, 24th July 2024'

[Inthedetails]

Dogwalker was not killed by Somali migrants as police tackle online 'misinformation'

Suffolk police says social media posts relating to the ongoing murder investigation into the death of Anita Rose is 'misinformation'.

www.eadt.co.uk

OMG, another case with misinformation spread (and believed) on purpose?! This is way out of hand and makes LE's job so much harder (not to mention it's cruel to many communities, including the victim families who often feel compelled to speak against the misinformation when their energy should be focused on their own grief).

Grrrr......

jmo

 

[Sarahlou]

It's a very big problem. Almost every case like this now you will get far-right groups on social media immediately accusing immigrants just to stir up hate. People lap it up too. It's disgusting.

 

[Inthedetails]

It's a very big problem. Almost every case like this now you will get far-right groups on social media immediately accusing immigrants just to stir up hate. People lap it up too. It's disgusting.

Yes, the eagerness to believe hateful lies bothers me way more than the people trying to incite in the first place. The lies wouldn't spread if people recognized them and refused to be part of it.

jmo

 

[scapa]

Yes, the eagerness to believe hateful lies bothers me way more than the people trying to incite in the first place. The lies wouldn't spread if people recognized them and refused to be part of it.

jmo

Agree -- it's an appalling and wholly cynical strategy on the part of hate groups. And seemingly takes only a few posts and clicks until the fire is well lit.

 

[Dotta]

"Police have issued a fresh appeal
for witnesses two weeks on from the suspected murder of a woman in Brantham.

'We are particularly interested in hearing about anyone seen in the areas
between Newmill Lane and Rectory Lane,
near the railway line and the sewage treatment plant,
between 6am and 6.30am.

If you have information –
no matter how insignificant this may seem –
we want to hear from you.

It could be critical in pursuing and opening up new lines of enquiries'."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1821195864016351358

 

[Megnut]

I wonder if it was an intended SA by a lone individual, thwarted and interrupted, followed by a pair of opportunists who helped themselves to a couple of items. Which would be especially awful because they could have, instead, attempted to render aid...

Heart goes out to her family.

JMO

 

[Dotta]

I wonder if it was an intended SA by a lone individual, thwarted and interrupted, followed by a pair of opportunists who helped themselves to a couple of items. Which would be especially awful because they could have, instead, attempted to render aid...

Heart goes out to her family.

JMO

But...
Isn't it strange that all this happened at ungodly hour in the morning?

And off the beaten track?

PS
Were all these people hurrying to the train station going to work?

JMO

 

[slowpoke]

Two cordons that had been put in place in the Newmill Lane area on Sunday, August 3 were lifted in the afternoon of Aug 8.

Bringing forth this map again, showing the route Anita walked her dog before she was attacked, just to get a good visual.

Article says:
“Anita’s final movements on July 24 would have followed one of her usual dog walking routes; starting around 5am at Palfrey Heights, where she turned onto a track road off Brooklands Rise which she followed to Rectory Lane, before turning onto The Chase and the A137 Ipswich Road. From there she would have turned onto Newmill Lane, reaching the river before turning back and retracing her steps up to Ipswich Road.“


A good visual, yet I still don’t get something. It says after turning on Newmill Lane and reaching the river, she turned back and retraced her steps. The streets aren’t labeled on the map, so maybe that’s why I’m having trouble understanding? Because, I think Newmill Lane is the long vertical line on the right side of the map. So why does it say she turned back to retrace her steps, which it doesn’t look like it, to me? How was it she was on Rectory Lane where her body was, then? I don’t know if I’m explaining my confusion well.

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1821548077410324696

 

[dalsglen]

@slowpoke I think it's just poorly worded. I think what they mean is when she comes down to the bottom of Newmill Lane, she turns to the left of that map heading back to Brantham. So not retracing her steps at all, but just turning back towards home as she would need to.

 

[slowpoke]

Article gives color to the neighborhood Anita lived in: A local said,

“It has sent shockwaves around the community. This is such a sleepy, calm village. Nothing goes on in Brantham.”

A bit about the young man who was arrested in the case:

“One of the arrested men was a “local lad” in his 20s who was known to some villagers as a “troublemaker” and lived in a bungalow on the route Rose had taken, The Times has learnt. He was released from custody on bail but banned from returning to Brantham and Manningtree.”

Overall, a nice article for humanizing Anita and give us a feel for her community, which sounds like a lovely place.

Fear and fury in village where dog walker’s killing remains a mystery

Anita Rose’s death following a early morning attack shocked residents in Brantham. Lies spread by the far right in an attempt to exploit the incident only deepened their anguish

www.thetimes.com

 

[slowpoke]

Ok, this article addresses what confused me regarding the map of Anita’s route that was provided vs what was written.

https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2024-08-09/murder-detectives-revise-route-of-dog-walkers-final-journey

This one says:
“Police initially thought she followed the river and looped back onto Rectory Lane, where her body was found near a sewage works.

But now, they believe she turned back on Newmill Lane after reaching the river.

It raises questions about what happened next and how her body got to where she was found.”

A revised map is provided. I’ve put both maps below to show the change in thinking. The top one is the older one, and the bottom is the new thinking.

 

[Dotta]

'Mystery over who killed dog walker Anita Rose deepens ​

as cops struggle to solve crime."​

Mystery over who killed dog walker deepens as cops struggle to solve crime

On July 24, Anita Rose, 57, woke up early at her home in Brantham and took her springer spaniel Bruce for a walk, leaving her home in the quiet Suffolk village at around 5am

www-mirror-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[martinwatts5]

Could it mean they can’t conclusively say what caused the head injuries (which caused her death)?

Just because somebody has head injuries doesn’t mean that is the cause of death.

In my opinion the female handled the phone after the attack but the missing coat is a bit of a mystery.

 

[Dotta]

There are many questions:

- Was it robbery gone wrong?
(iphone)

- Was it sexual attack?

- Did the victim stumble upon something she shouldn't have and saw/heard something?

- Was there an argument with somebody who turned violent?

- Was the attacker also a dog walker?

- Was the attack random?

- Or did the attacker/s stalk the victim?

- Did the victim know the attacker/s?

- Did 3 people on bail know one another?

- What weapon was used to hit the victim?

- Was it just a stone/rock lying on the road and used in attack?

- Or did the attacker/s bring the weapon with them?

I personally think it was a robbery (iphone) which ended in tragedy.
Anita could have had her phone in hand (scrolling down the screen).

I read there are gangs in the UK snatching phones from people's hands in broad daylight.
Link below

Iphones are ridiculously expensive.
(I have never had such a phone,
neither my friends).

JMO

How gangs of muggers are terrorising the streets of London

A spate of attacks has shocked many Londoners as the horrific crime wave has swept through the capital.

www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[martinwatts5]

There are many questions:

- Was it robbery gone wrong?
(iphone)

- Was it sexual attack?

- Did the victim stumble upon something she shouldn't have and saw/heard something?

- Was there an argument with somebody who turned violent?

- Was the attacker also a dog walker?

- Was the attack random?

- Or did the attacker/s stalk the victim?

- Did the victim know the attacker/s?

- Did 3 people on bail know one another?

I personally think it was a robbery (iphone) which ended in tragedy.
Anita could have had her phone in hand (scrolling down the screen).

I read there are gangs in the UK snatching phones from people's hands in broad daylight.
Link below

Iphones are ridiculously expensive.
(I have never had such a phone,
neither my friends).

JMO

How gangs of muggers are terrorising the streets of London

A spate of attacks has shocked many Londoners as the horrific crime wave has swept through the capital.

www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

I still feel the fact that the phone has been tracked down and the female was only connected to handling stolen goods points to the phone being handled after the attack rather than the phone being the reason for the attack.

 

[Dotta]

I still feel the fact that the phone has been tracked down and the female was only connected to handling stolen goods points to the phone being handled after the attack rather than the phone being the reason for the attack.

Anything is possible.

But it seems all these on bail know one another IMO.

I don't think other people just stumbled upon hurt Anita and robbed her.

It would be too much of a coincidence,
especially at this early morning hour.

iPhone seems to be connected to the attack.

But it is only My Opinion.
And I might be completely wrong.

But honestly,
a person attacked by one perp
AND
then robbed by another??

In a quiet, sleepy village?

Although in my country we say that
"Misfortunes come in pairs"

JMO

ETA
Of course,
It might have happened
that the perp/s robbed the victim after attacking her for whatever reason
AND
asked his "friends" to sell the phone in other place/town/city.

Like "handling stolen goods"

Another thing...
Interesting that Police stated (link upthread)
that Anita re-traced her steps.

- Did she notice the attacker and decide to return?

- Did she know this person?
- Did she know this person only by sight?

I seem to remember that one man lived in the area (?)

JMO

 

[dalsglen]

Do we know what model phone she had? Worthy of knocking a lady over for?

Still doesn't explain the coat right enough!

 

[Smccat]

Do we know what model phone she had? Worthy of knocking a lady over for?

Still doesn't explain the coat right enough!

Spot on dals it’s wierd !

 

[Inthedetails]

I don't think other people just stumbled upon hurt Anita and robbed her.

snipped

While I don't think that happened in this case, it is a remote possibility, imo. I knew someone who was hit by a car while walking - the car left the scene and my acquaintance suffered a broken leg. While she lay there injured, someone came by and stole her purse! It all happened fast.

So, more than one horrible person can victimize someone at the same crime scene. I don't think that happened here, but I don't rule it out completely.

jmo