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I am still curious about TLC's vetting process. The info was available on the Duggar's and also available on the Honey Boo Boo story. Are you telling me Harpo productions didnt reach out to TLC? TLC didnt investigate "Alice's" statements in 2007? A little bit of digging would have brought it to light.

I am highly skeptical that they didnt receive tips throughout the years.

They would have no reason to spread an unsubstantiated rumor once they reported it to authorities. That would be something they'd shy from for legal and professional reasons.
 
I'd rather my child share a bathroom with a transgender person than Josh Duggar.
 
You know what bothers me? The huge focus they put on "purity". Way to make the victims feel even more crappy. Jim Bob, and Michelle sprouting out how much it's important to save everything for marriage, meanwhile they realize what the victims have been through. Ugh. Makes me so freaking mad!!!!!!
 
and the Seewald parents helped orchestrate the "meeting" between Ben & Jessa. The Seewalds live far from the Duggars and the Seewalds drove to the Duggar church so that Ben could "run into" Jessa and Mr. Seewald has seemed interested into latching onto the popularity too, putting up a nice fancy looking blog in August 2014 and using the Duggar name to populate it and even try to attract attention for his budding photographer nephew. Like they always say "Follow the money". Here there are many people and groups dependent on the continuation of the Duggar good name. He's not the least bit concerned with the victims-it's just lip service as I do think the Seewald's have more insight into what people think is normal and thus can parrot more appropriately.

But what is really happening with the victims, shut up in the house with the people who hid their abuse? The daughter who is still a minor forced to file papers to expunge the court record of her abuse. Will she one day wonder why her brother wasn't properly dealt with at the time which would have sealed the records, punished the abuser and hopefully gotten the victims proper counseling. Of course, since they are taught to question nothing taught or done by their parents they will likely go through their lives feeling their treatment was normal and just-that their brother didn't deserve to be punished, that he just made a "mistake", that they just need to forgive & forget for all to be right. Any struggles or doubts they later have will have to be cast aside as un-Godly. They will never be in legitimate counseling. Their parents have done everything possible to ensure they never have a chance at a normal life where they learn and grow and make their own decisions.

I do hope there is a rebel there. But at least the lid is being blown off the facade and this may end up attracting even more notice to how dangerous these extremist cults are and make them less attractive to people who stop finding the Duggars just cute and quaint and sweet. The reality has never been any of those things.


What baffles me, is that what he is saying is perfect advice. And yet, does he not seem them as muted? Does he not see that the proper channels were not sought for these girls? Does he not see that the people they do trust, did nothing to protect them from their abuser? I mean...UGH!!!
 
http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/10-13.htm


Did the Duggars choose to skip this part of the bible? Seriously what is fruitful about them? IMO, all their bellyaching is nothing more than trying to point fingers at others whose sins are worse than theirs.

They are taught a good touch-bad touch of sorts. The problem (on of the many) is, they are taught that the touch was a result of their actions or immodesty. And clearly, what the boy does is not his fault...the girl tempted him too much...and the boy made a "mistake."

It baffles me that anyone would think any little girl can be "tempting". Ick. And one's sister? Normal people aren't attracted to siblings or little kids no.matter.what.

JMO I think Josh's apology doesn't sound like he really gets it. He referred to what happened in somewhat vague and minimising terms. He didn't say it was sexual abuse, he called it "actions" and "wrongdoing" and "hurting" and it comes with a nice bow on top about how godly he is now.

Most normal people with compassion and conscience do not sexually abuse anyone because A) it simply does not occur them that doing so would be a reasonable alternative action in any situation and B) because it may end up ruining the victims' lives.

But the reason Josh says he stopped was, " I understood that if I continued down this wrong road that I would end up ruining my life." The apology is mostly about him and very little about compassion for the victims of sexual abuse. He apologized and went on to joke about incest on TV.

Yes. It matches with his parents driving him to the pedophile state trooper's home where he was given a stern talking to. I'm sure the trooper told him about how he could face charges, detention and he sex registry. That's what impressed him. Not the pain of his victims or the revolting insanity of what he did.

Gitana1, do you have any insight regarding the criminal SOL not actually having run out at the time of the investigation?

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/why-the-duggar-abuse-investigation-end

I don't get it. Kind of sounds like this case was dealt with by a Good Ol' Boys network of people sympathetic to this godly family, from beginning to end. This was a major cover up.
 
and the Seewald parents helped orchestrate the "meeting" between Ben & Jessa. The Seewalds live far from the Duggars and the Seewalds drove to the Duggar church so that Ben could "run into" Jessa and Mr. Seewald has seemed interested into latching onto the popularity too, putting up a nice fancy looking blog in August 2014 and using the Duggar name to populate it and even try to attract attention for his budding photographer nephew. Like they always say "Follow the money". Here there are many people and groups dependent on the continuation of the Duggar good name. He's not the least bit concerned with the victims-it's just lip service as I do think the Seewald's have more insight into what people think is normal and thus can parrot more appropriately.

But what is really happening with the victims, shut up in the house with the people who hid their abuse? The daughter who is still a minor forced to file papers to expunge the court record of her abuse. Will she one day wonder why her brother wasn't properly dealt with at the time which would have sealed the records, punished the abuser and hopefully gotten the victims proper counseling. Of course, since they are taught to question nothing taught or done by their parents they will likely go through their lives feeling their treatment was normal and just-that their brother didn't deserve to be punished, that he just made a "mistake", that they just need to forgive & forget for all to be right. Any struggles or doubts they later have will have to be cast aside as un-Godly. They will never be in legitimate counseling. Their parents have done everything possible to ensure they never have a chance at a normal life where they learn and grow and make their own decisions.

I do hope there is a rebel there. But at least the lid is being blown off the facade and this may end up attracting even more notice to how dangerous these extremist cults are and make them less attractive to people who stop finding the Duggars just cute and quaint and sweet. The reality has never been any of those things.

I agree with what you've said. But I don't think these girls wanted any of this to come out. If I had been sexually assaulted I wouldn't want my private pain and victimization public. Some people choose to be public about those things to help others but this was no choice for the girls.

Although I feel there was a major coverup from beginning to end, if I were the judge reading the petition I might have ruled the same way. Because the fact that they are a celebrity family means that even if the records were sealed someone could access and release them illegally, for profit, and one victim is still a minor.

Since now there is an admission and now no chance of prosecution, but social services records remain in existence, and can be used if anything else happens, to assess the family, weighing and balancing the pros and cons, the risks to society, the family and the victims, I might have granted such a petition.

I don't know. But it's high time these girls were granted some agency over their own lives and I really think the petition to destroy didn't occur due to parents forcing a reluctant child. She may has been prompted by a family eager for damage control but I think any teen public figure would be mortified and want desperately to keep such details private.
 
Well I just don't know what to think about this. To tell the truth I blame the Dugger parents not only for how they have raised their children but for how they handled Josh's crime. They were the adults and they should have got proper help for Josh and help and justice for his sisters and friends who were affected. They should never have had the audacity to sign themselves and their family up for a television show holding themselves up as an example of goodness and great family behavior to the world all the while knowingly hiding and covering up sexual abuse.
I have to wonder between this and the Justin Harris rehoming his adopted daughters with a child molester how safe are children of so called fundamentalist Christians in the state of Arkansas. Especially those whose parents have money and position. Disgraceful.
 
I was sexually abused by my 14 year old step-brother when I was 9. It was the exact same kind of sexual abuse--middle of the night visits and fondling. I lived in a home that was chaotic. My mother and my stepfather were constantly fighting, my stepfather was alcoholic and abusive and especially physically abusive to my older stepbrother, who came into my life at age 13. My older stepbrother really looked after my younger brother and me. We used to spend whole afternoons out in the woods and all day Saturdays--trying to stay away from our scary house as much as possible. What's remarkable, is that I thought of him and still do think of him as mostly a comforting and sheltering presence in my life. He built amazing forts, where we spent a lot of hours--nothing untoward that I remember. Those forts were like shelters from the storm for us kids. But he also sexually abused me. It was NOT playing doctor. He was old enough to know better and I was too young to consent. But for years I actually believed that it had been two kids "experimenting." I also thought that I must have been "hyper-sexual" somehow with him and was equally responsible. It wasn't until my kids were the same ages that it hit me ike a ton of bricks that this was not normal childhood behavior.

My mom was very religious and we grew up with fundamentalist Baptist theology that later became more evangelical as our church grew. My home was definitely sexually repressive, but also weirdly perverse as our parents would scream and fight and then have sex loudly so us kids could hear--scary and confusing. We got all the usual teachings about women being submissive and the importance of purity and the same old drill with abuse, prayer and forgiveness. I developed really early, which just added to my sense of guilt. I started to rebel in my teen years, because I was angry about all the abuse in the home. I was accused of opening up the doors to the Occult by my rebellion and told that I might cause my stepdad to start drinking again. Mystepdad was also sexually inappropriate to me and said some really heinous things about me to my mom--which of course she told me.

I think I really internalized that the sexual abuse was my fault. I later became involved in a very Conservative Mennonite church (another part of my family heritage--and one which I really still see a lot of good in)which I think I was drawn to because of the "safe" feeling I got from the clearly delineated roles and the modest dress, but the emphasis was on forgiveness even more, so I went to my stepbrother to beg his forgiveness and at the time his response was not helpful--he just said, "The past is in the past."

This year, I had a crisis having to do with all of the abuse I experienced as a child that I never dealt with properly--just forgiving and forgiving for so many awful things. I tried so hard to be a good Christian and let go of any resentment.

I'm now 44 and finally got in touch with some healthy anger and went no contact with my mom and a bunch of other toxic family members due to ongoing absuive behaviors. It was the most gut-wrenching horrible experience of my life. Walking away from family can be like death. I can't imagine what it would be like to break with a family like the Duggars--your whole entire world--and to walk away from them and tell the truth and seek your own path, knowing the kind of rejection you would get. It seems just so painful it'd be about impossible. I know it was horrible for me and I am still grieving.

But the crazy thing is that through this process, I confronted my older stepbrother and he was fully and completely repentant and took full responsibility. I do believe he was a victim at the time of a chaotic, abusive household, and I don't believe he went on to abuse anyone else. Of course, no one can really know, but I've stayed in a relationship with him and I do believe it was something that only happened in that context of our awful childhood. The dynamics of sexual abuse and the dynamics in abusive families can be so incredibly complicated and confusing. You really love your family, but are hurt by it too. It's a kind of brainwashing and a kind of stockholm syndrome.
 
I was sexually abused by my 14 year old step-brother when I was 9. It was the exact same kind of sexual abuse--middle of the night visits and fondling. I lived in a home that was chaotic. My mother and my stepfather were constantly fighting, my stepfather was alcoholic and abusive and especially physically abusive to my older stepbrother, who came into my life at age 13. My older stepbrother really looked after my younger brother and me. We used to spend whole afternoons out in the woods and all day Saturdays--trying to stay away from our scary house as much as possible. What's remarkable, is that I thought of him and still do think of him as mostly a comforting and sheltering presence in my life. He built amazing forts, where we spent a lot of hours--nothing untoward that I remember. Those forts were like shelters from the storm for us kids. But he also sexually abused me. It was NOT playing doctor. He was old enough to know better and I was too young to consent. But for years I actually believed that it had been two kids "experimenting." I also thought that I must have been "hyper-sexual" somehow with him and was equally responsible. It wasn't until my kids were the same ages that it hit me ike a ton of bricks that this was not normal childhood behavior.

My mom was very religious and we grew up with fundamentalist Baptist theology that later became more evangelical as our church grew. My home was definitely sexually repressive, but also weirdly perverse as our parents would scream and fight and then have sex loudly so us kids could hear--scary and confusing. We got all the usual teachings about women being submissive and the importance of purity and the same old drill with abuse, prayer and forgiveness. I developed really early, which just added to my sense of guilt. I started to rebel in my teen years, because I was angry about all the abuse in the home. I was accused of opening up the doors to the Occult by my rebellion and told that I might cause my stepdad to start drinking again. Mystepdad was also sexually inappropriate to me and said some really heinous things about me to my mom--which of course she told me.

I think I really internalized that the sexual abuse was my fault. I later became involved in a very Conservative Mennonite church (another part of my family heritage--and one which I really still see a lot of good in)which I think I was drawn to because of the "safe" feeling I got from the clearly delineated roles and the modest dress, but the emphasis was on forgiveness even more, so I went to my stepbrother to beg his forgiveness and at the time his response was not helpful--he just said, "The past is in the past."

This year, I had a crisis having to do with all of the abuse I experienced as a child that I never dealt with properly--just forgiving and forgiving for so many awful things. I tried so hard to be a good Christian and let go of any resentment.

I'm now 44 and finally got in touch with some healthy anger and went no contact with my mom and a bunch of other toxic family members due to ongoing absuive behaviors. It was the most gut-wrenching horrible experience of my life. Walking away from family can be like death. I can't imagine what it would be like to break with a family like the Duggars--your whole entire world--and to walk away from them and tell the truth and seek your own path, knowing the kind of rejection you would get. It seems just so painful it'd be about impossible. I know it was horrible for me and I am still grieving.

But the crazy thing is that through this process, I confronted my older stepbrother and he was fully and completely repentant and took full responsibility. I do believe he was a victim at the time of a chaotic, abusive household, and I don't believe he went on to abuse anyone else. Of course, no one can really know, but I've stayed in a relationship with him and I do believe it was something that only happened in that context of our awful childhood. The dynamics of sexual abuse and the dynamics in abusive families can be so incredibly complicated and confusing. You really love your family, but are hurt by it too. It's a kind of brainwashing and a kind of stockholm syndrome.

song22 that was a very powerful and enlightening post. You really have touched upon something I am not brave enough to share. Thank you.
 
I guess the Duggar children were never taught 'good touch-bad touch'. I'll never understand how one makes the choice to violate another in that manner. Especially violating children.

Too busy teaching them don't get off the blanket. Jmo

ciao
 
I kind of wish I was still home schooling (I 'graduated the last kid two years ago- completing 25 years) because convention season is just getting started in earnest. It would be quite interesting conversation, don't you think?

Even more interesting to me are the 'reformed Gothardites' and Pearl followers now coming out of the woodwork on my Facebook - the very people who condemned and judged my family for years and years. I will confess to a sick sort of "I told you so" satisfaction after all these years. Not proud of it.
 
I was sexually abused by my 14 year old step-brother when I was 9. It was the exact same kind of sexual abuse--middle of the night visits and fondling. I lived in a home that was chaotic. My mother and my stepfather were constantly fighting, my stepfather was alcoholic and abusive and especially physically abusive to my older stepbrother, who came into my life at age 13. My older stepbrother really looked after my younger brother and me. We used to spend whole afternoons out in the woods and all day Saturdays--trying to stay away from our scary house as much as possible. What's remarkable, is that I thought of him and still do think of him as mostly a comforting and sheltering presence in my life. He built amazing forts, where we spent a lot of hours--nothing untoward that I remember. Those forts were like shelters from the storm for us kids. But he also sexually abused me. It was NOT playing doctor. He was old enough to know better and I was too young to consent. But for years I actually believed that it had been two kids "experimenting." I also thought that I must have been "hyper-sexual" somehow with him and was equally responsible. It wasn't until my kids were the same ages that it hit me ike a ton of bricks that this was not normal childhood behavior.

My mom was very religious and we grew up with fundamentalist Baptist theology that later became more evangelical as our church grew. My home was definitely sexually repressive, but also weirdly perverse as our parents would scream and fight and then have sex loudly so us kids could hear--scary and confusing. We got all the usual teachings about women being submissive and the importance of purity and the same old drill with abuse, prayer and forgiveness. I developed really early, which just added to my sense of guilt. I started to rebel in my teen years, because I was angry about all the abuse in the home. I was accused of opening up the doors to the Occult by my rebellion and told that I might cause my stepdad to start drinking again. Mystepdad was also sexually inappropriate to me and said some really heinous things about me to my mom--which of course she told me.

I think I really internalized that the sexual abuse was my fault. I later became involved in a very Conservative Mennonite church (another part of my family heritage--and one which I really still see a lot of good in)which I think I was drawn to because of the "safe" feeling I got from the clearly delineated roles and the modest dress, but the emphasis was on forgiveness even more, so I went to my stepbrother to beg his forgiveness and at the time his response was not helpful--he just said, "The past is in the past."

This year, I had a crisis having to do with all of the abuse I experienced as a child that I never dealt with properly--just forgiving and forgiving for so many awful things. I tried so hard to be a good Christian and let go of any resentment.

I'm now 44 and finally got in touch with some healthy anger and went no contact with my mom and a bunch of other toxic family members due to ongoing absuive behaviors. It was the most gut-wrenching horrible experience of my life. Walking away from family can be like death. I can't imagine what it would be like to break with a family like the Duggars--your whole entire world--and to walk away from them and tell the truth and seek your own path, knowing the kind of rejection you would get. It seems just so painful it'd be about impossible. I know it was horrible for me and I am still grieving.

But the crazy thing is that through this process, I confronted my older stepbrother and he was fully and completely repentant and took full responsibility. I do believe he was a victim at the time of a chaotic, abusive household, and I don't believe he went on to abuse anyone else. Of course, no one can really know, but I've stayed in a relationship with him and I do believe it was something that only happened in that context of our awful childhood. The dynamics of sexual abuse and the dynamics in abusive families can be so incredibly complicated and confusing. You really love your family, but are hurt by it too. It's a kind of brainwashing and a kind of stockholm syndrome.

I was left in speechless awe by your profound post. Thank you for sharing that with us.
 
I understand that the children over eighteen have their own contracts for the show (and perhaps the books). I would be interested in knowing how much their parents charge them for living at home, etc. If they are allowed to keep their "salaries", some of them may have enough money to break away with...

I've often wondered if the Duggars have copyrighted their name as a "brand", and have formed a corporation for the purpose of negotiating the TLC (and other) contracts. If so, the TV contracts would be with the corporation, not the individuals, and the corporation would be administered as a business, with various members as "employees" of the Duggar corporation (the husbands and males over 18 perhaps).

If that's the case, it would be easier to cut Josh out of the filming, as he is only one member/ employee of the potential Duggar corporation. If Josh has his own contract, it might be more cumbersome to cut him out. (Although I think the entire Duggar reality show will be axed shortly, possibly with the "Duggar Girls" brought back in a spinoff.)

Just a thought.
 
I've often wondered if the Duggars have copyrighted their name as a "brand", and have formed a corporation for the purpose of negotiating the TLC (and other) contracts. If so, the TV contracts would be with the corporation, not the individuals, and the corporation would be administered as a business, with various members as "employees" of the Duggar corporation (the husbands and males over 18 perhaps).

If that's the case, it would be easier to cut Josh out of the filming, as he is only one member/ employee of the potential Duggar corporation. If Josh has his own contract, it might be more cumbersome to cut him out. (Although I think the entire Duggar reality show will be axed shortly, possibly with the "Duggar Girls" brought back in a spinoff.)

Just a thought.

I'm 99% positive that other than possibly a "very special" Duggar episode dealing with this, and that's quite doubtful, the Duggar reality tv empire is solidly over.

Every moment on the screen of any member will prompt thoughts about what they've gone through, who may be victims, what other secrets this family may have, and whether there are other perps. I'm betting most of the sisters will now want to totally shy from cameras and public scrutiny. It's over for this family.

Imo, this family will retire from public life to one more centered on missionary work and church friends and family. I don't think they desire to parade their destruction and pain to the public, many of whom are gleeful about their downfall.
 
Re: the end of the Duggar empire, I could see the 2 recently married daughters doing spin-offs, if only for financial reasons.

Neither husband has a degree or trade that I know of, and they both have new babies.


ETA: It's Jill and Jessa; Jill just had a baby, and Jessa is currently pregnant.
 
I've often wondered if the Duggars have copyrighted their name as a "brand", and have formed a corporation for the purpose of negotiating the TLC (and other) contracts. If so, the TV contracts would be with the corporation, not the individuals, and the corporation would be administered as a business, with various members as "employees" of the Duggar corporation (the husbands and males over 18 perhaps).If that's the case, it would be easier to cut Josh out of the filming, as he is only one member/ employee of the potential Duggar corporation. If Josh has his own contract, it might be more cumbersome to cut him out. (Although I think the entire Duggar reality show will be axed shortly, possibly with the "Duggar Girls" brought back in a spinoff.)

Just a thought.

Is it possible that they are incorporated AND tax exempt because of their home church? How do we sleuth that?
 
I was sexually abused by my 14 year old step-brother when I was 9. It was the exact same kind of sexual abuse--middle of the night visits and fondling. I lived in a home that was chaotic. My mother and my stepfather were constantly fighting, my stepfather was alcoholic and abusive and especially physically abusive to my older stepbrother, who came into my life at age 13. My older stepbrother really looked after my younger brother and me. We used to spend whole afternoons out in the woods and all day Saturdays--trying to stay away from our scary house as much as possible. What's remarkable, is that I thought of him and still do think of him as mostly a comforting and sheltering presence in my life. He built amazing forts, where we spent a lot of hours--nothing untoward that I remember. Those forts were like shelters from the storm for us kids. But he also sexually abused me. It was NOT playing doctor. He was old enough to know better and I was too young to consent. But for years I actually believed that it had been two kids "experimenting." I also thought that I must have been "hyper-sexual" somehow with him and was equally responsible. It wasn't until my kids were the same ages that it hit me ike a ton of bricks that this was not normal childhood behavior.

My mom was very religious and we grew up with fundamentalist Baptist theology that later became more evangelical as our church grew. My home was definitely sexually repressive, but also weirdly perverse as our parents would scream and fight and then have sex loudly so us kids could hear--scary and confusing. We got all the usual teachings about women being submissive and the importance of purity and the same old drill with abuse, prayer and forgiveness. I developed really early, which just added to my sense of guilt. I started to rebel in my teen years, because I was angry about all the abuse in the home. I was accused of opening up the doors to the Occult by my rebellion and told that I might cause my stepdad to start drinking again. Mystepdad was also sexually inappropriate to me and said some really heinous things about me to my mom--which of course she told me.

I think I really internalized that the sexual abuse was my fault. I later became involved in a very Conservative Mennonite church (another part of my family heritage--and one which I really still see a lot of good in)which I think I was drawn to because of the "safe" feeling I got from the clearly delineated roles and the modest dress, but the emphasis was on forgiveness even more, so I went to my stepbrother to beg his forgiveness and at the time his response was not helpful--he just said, "The past is in the past."

This year, I had a crisis having to do with all of the abuse I experienced as a child that I never dealt with properly--just forgiving and forgiving for so many awful things. I tried so hard to be a good Christian and let go of any resentment.

I'm now 44 and finally got in touch with some healthy anger and went no contact with my mom and a bunch of other toxic family members due to ongoing absuive behaviors. It was the most gut-wrenching horrible experience of my life. Walking away from family can be like death. I can't imagine what it would be like to break with a family like the Duggars--your whole entire world--and to walk away from them and tell the truth and seek your own path, knowing the kind of rejection you would get. It seems just so painful it'd be about impossible. I know it was horrible for me and I am still grieving.

But the crazy thing is that through this process, I confronted my older stepbrother and he was fully and completely repentant and took full responsibility. I do believe he was a victim at the time of a chaotic, abusive household, and I don't believe he went on to abuse anyone else. Of course, no one can really know, but I've stayed in a relationship with him and I do believe it was something that only happened in that context of our awful childhood. The dynamics of sexual abuse and the dynamics in abusive families can be so incredibly complicated and confusing. You really love your family, but are hurt by it too. It's a kind of brainwashing and a kind of stockholm syndrome.

Thank you for sharing your story. That is very brave of you. I want you to know you are not alone. I, too, was abused by my older brother as a child and my parents blamed me for it too. I thought the abuse had no effect on me for the longest time. I was depressed but just chalked it up to being born clinically depressed.

About 3 years ago, the abuse hit me like a ton of bricks and I went to my parents and asked them why they had allowed me to be abused, never protected me from my abuser, and blamed me for it. They always covered up for HIM and protected HIM so no one would find out what he did. All the while, they never protected me, ever. He is still abusive to this day to his significant other. To this day my parents still cover for him, knowing that he is now abusive to his gf. I asked my mother to please just tell me it wasn't my fault and that I didn't deserve it and she was silent. I told her I was suicidal as a result of the abuse now taking a toll on me. She didn't care, neither did my dad. I had to cut them out of my life too, they hurt me too much.

I cut them out of my life almost 3 years ago at the age of 32. This year, I was hospitalized twice for being suicidal. I was diagnosed with depression, anxiety and ptsd from the abuse. I feel as if I want to die a lot of the time. Because I feel worthless and unlovable. My parents didn't love me enough to protect me when I was a child and now that Im suffering the long term effects of the abuse they will do nothing to be there for me, because they are still protecting him. They still don't love me enough to help me through my struggles with the abuse. Just the last couple of days I have been struggling so badly I thought I might have to be hospitalized again, but I managed to stay home and safe.

This is what worries me for the Duggar girls. They look happy now, but what about years from now when they're older? Will it completely destroy their minds like it has mine?
 
And Zimmerman was....

"Appointed by Governor Mike Huckabee and served on the Arkansas Coalition for Juvenile Justice, 1999-2005

Appointed by Governor Mike Huckabee and served on the Criminal Detention Facility Review Committee, 1995-1998"

http://staceyzimmermanjuvenilejudge.com/

Sorry if this info has already been posted.

Huh. Funny that.

I really hope someone is starting to pull all of these threads...
 
Poppy and Song,

Thank you for sharing your excruciating experiences with us. I am so sorry these awful things happened to you.

Hugs.
 
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