Argentina - Loan Peña, 5, went orange pick w/fam, shoe found, local police chief arrested, as well as others, Nueve de Julio, 13 Jun 2024

[katydid23]

You see diligence. I see scores of people being thrown in jail and named in the press without solid proof of a crime.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

MOO

There may not be solid proof, but this does not seem like a child just wandering off, IMO.

This is a rural area, with roads and homes. The child was not in a remote area where he would be hopelessly lost. He is an intelligent 5 yr old and was not far from where his grandmother and father were. He could have easily found them, given the chance to do so.

If this was just a lost child, why all the tampering of the crime scene, and made up accusations? Why would someone plant his shoe in th wrong location?

And why would someone make false accusations, swearing in court that another couple ran him over. There was even blood found in the car and damages on th exterior. And those seem to have been falsified---so more tampering, in order to frame someone.

WHY frame others with a serious crime if this is a simple case of a child who simply wandered off?

Why does the Police Commissioner lie in his reports and urge some of his officers to falsify their logs?

I agree there is no solid evidence yet, that we know of---but that seems to be because of all the deflections and tampering and deceitful testimony. I've never seen all that in a simple case of a lost child. JMO

 

[iamshadow21]

There may not be solid proof, but this does not seem like a child just wandering off, IMO.

This is a rural area, with roads and homes. The child was not in a remote area where he would be hopelessly lost. He is an intelligent 5 yr old and was not far from where his grandmother and father were. He could have easily found them, given the chance to do so.

If this was just a lost child, why all the tampering of the crime scene, and made up accusations? Why would someone plant his shoe in th wrong location?

And why would someone make false accusations, swearing in court that another couple ran him over. There was even blood found in the car and damages on th exterior. And those seem to have been falsified---so more tampering, in order to frame someone.

WHY frame others with a serious crime if this is a simple case of a child who simply wandered off?

Why does the Police Commissioner lie in his reports and urge some of his officers to falsify their logs?

I agree there is no solid evidence yet, that we know of---but that seems to be because of all the deflections and tampering and deceitful testimony. I've never seen all that in a simple case of a lost child. JMO

It just reminds me too much of other cases I've watched documentaries on where the drive seems to be to produce results, and it doesn't matter who is in handcuffs, just so long as someone is.

And if this all turns out to somehow be true - which I really doubt, given the changing testimonies and stories of threats and bribery and falsified evidence - but if it does, I'll happily say that I was wrong, but my overall impression is that all this has nothing to do with the little boy who is actually missing and how and why and more to do with the media and politics at this point.

It makes me sad and angry, because a five year old kid is missing and with the chaos happening I can't see him being found.

MOO

 

[Allabouttrial]

This news station is pretty impartial and try to present the facts rather than speculate, they're saying that the prosecutors are seeking to have Macarena detained.

They also try and clear up the latest with regard to *advertiser censored* on Perez's phone. Some channels are saying it's child *advertiser censored*, but the journalist said that her source told her the sites visited contained adult *advertiser censored*. Pictures of children are on the phone, but the pictures aren't compromising and the techs. are yet to determine if the pictures could just be of relatives. There was some talk of pornographic sites visited comprising of women being violated but again the journalist said it hasn't been confirmed that this was on Perez's phone. As she pointed out there were 20 phones seized.

Replying to myself. Apologies but I posted misinformation. It's not the prosecutors who are asking for Macarena's arrest, it's the family's lawyer Burlando.

 

[Allabouttrial]

First time I am hearing that Caillava was the one who told Laudelina to plant the shoe:

Laudelina had confessed to planting Loan's loot herself and that she was forced to do so by María Victoria Caillava in order to divert the search. Later, Macarena defended her and said that she was threatened by that statement.

Pidieron la detención de Macarena, la hija de Laudelina Peña | 0264Noticias - Noticias de San Juan

La joven fue quien sacó la foto del menor durante el almuerzo y quien encontró el botín.

www.0264noticias.com.ar

Yeah it was very early on in the search. Caillava allegedly called her to meet at the old school to give her Loan's shoe to plant.

Allegedly, on the phones of Maciel (Commissioner), Macarena and Laudelina there is a picture of a clean shoe. The one they "found" was half buried in the mud.

 

[Allabouttrial]

It just reminds me too much of other cases I've watched documentaries on where the drive seems to be to produce results, and it doesn't matter who is in handcuffs, just so long as someone is.

And if this all turns out to somehow be true - which I really doubt, given the changing testimonies and stories of threats and bribery and falsified evidence - but if it does, I'll happily say that I was wrong, but my overall impression is that all this has nothing to do with the little boy who is actually missing and how and why and more to do with the media and politics at this point.

It makes me sad and angry, because a five year old kid is missing and with the chaos happening I can't see him being found.

MOO

Without all the chaos happening Loan would have gone under the radar like so many other missing children before him. Child trafficking is obviously real and burying our heads in the sands is doing a disservice to the plight of these children and their families.

If you have the time to look deeper into this story you'll find many of these accusations are not without merit. Loan could not have managed to get lost in the timeframe that was given. The fields in the area are vast and he would have been found within the first few hours.