Anything is possible, but it's not likely that she would be pulled into assistance in a closed park. Hopefully she was a little more street smart than that. And if she was pulled into assistance at that area, why would she not then leave the park afterwards, instead of continuing on all the way on to the Charles Allen gate.
IYO, she ran. As far as I know, your idea of her running is the only time I’ve read it on here. I don’t believe she ran, though none of us know that and haven’t heard that from the APD, and IMO, she was not there for any untoward reasons.
IMO, the APD would not necessarily release anything that one might expect them to. There’s much we can only speculate on.
That a person was asking for assistance could have been the killer’s ruse.
Well I highly doubt that she was just taking a leisurely stroll, after she just saw somebody brutalize her dog. Common sense says she ran, and ran as fast as she could. But unfortunately that guy was faster than she was. And he must have been pretty fit, because she probably got a little bit of a head start too.
I believe logic tells you, if she went through the Charles Allen gate the police would have released it. Especially in the beginning. Because they were looking for tips. And any information they could put out about her last movements would help with tips. Plus I thought they said somewhere that the crosswalk was the last picture of her.
I mean it's possible. The thing is I think that person would have been caught on camera. Now if he was just hanging around on the park side road or on 10th Street, I mean I don't know what kind of ruse he would try. Like, please help me, I sprained my ankle? Or like, how do I get out of the park, please walk with me and show me? I don't know, I can't think of any ruse that would work in that situation.
Actually I was trying to say that Emma would have been caught on the CA camera as she arrived looking for KJ.
I misread a post above that said, that EC entered the park near Argonne Street. I went back and I see now, he wrote that it was in his opinion. EC probably took the path that Katie took, as seen on her cell phone. She only would have been caught on camera if she entered through the Charles Allen gate. If she went along the path right inside the park, she would not have been caught on camera. I'm not sure if it was determined that she went through the gate, maybe I missed it.
I don’t think KJ’s phone showed EC what route KJ took. EC was using the Find My Phone feature which showed her where KJ’s phone was, which was just inside the CA & 10th St entrance. I believe that EC has indicated that she entered at CA & 10th and very shortly saw what turned out to be Bowie. Also, JMHO, I don’t think KJ would have walked along the parallel path to 10th; too dark. I am not convinced APD would or has released CCTV video of KJ or EC entering PP. I don’t think the APD wanted or still want the timeline public.
I believe EC stated she brough up the find my phone app and it didn't first show KJ so she just started looking on routes that KJ often took. Then the app showed KJ's phone in the park, not moving and she went there. She mentioned seeing Bowie as soon as she entered the gate, so i am assuming she walked/rode through CA gate.
So according to prairie winds writing above here, police said the crosswalk photo was the last time Katie was seen alive. And I believe I read that in other places too. And it stands to reason if they had a picture of her going through the Charles Allen gate, I think they would have released that. The benefit of getting tips, is outweighed to hiding the precise time that she got there. The fact that police did not release that sort of picture, implies that she did not go through the Charles Allen gate.
Yes I agree with you now, that EC probably went through the Charles Allen gate, rethinking it based on the writing that's out there.
Well as far as I'm aware, they have that app where you can see where the other person is at all times. For example, EC could look on her phone, and see that Katie was not moving, so that means she's getting real-time data of her movements. I don't have that app, so I don't know if there's some historical feature, where you can go back and trace where they were.
I believe I read that it was the last known photo of her alive, and I doubt they're going to find more pics after they released it, like you suggest. As I'm sure they got all the photos early on. Highly unlikely that like 3 months later, somebody goes, oh I have a cam video. In addition they did not have many more opportunities to get pics of her, because she was only like a block away from her final destination from the rainbow crosswalk, which she got to, you know, only like 10 or 15 minutes later. The only other pics they could have gotten, was what cams were on that block, on 10th Street. Plus they already said all the park cameras were not working. So I think if they had more pics, they would have released them, because it would have helped with tips. If as someone pointed out, they didn't want the exact time known, they could have blurred out the time on pic. They didn't release anything else, because they didn't have anything else. So it's pretty clear thru logic, she did not go through the Charles Allen Gate. That's just my opinion.
The jogger et al were seen from a camera from across 10th street which is directed toward the CA Gate. It’s the cameras inside the park that weren’t working. Nqs if there’s a camera just past the gate/inside the park or not. In total iirc there were 8 inoperable cameras.
Well that was already a week later right? They definitely would have had the chance to go through the cameras along 10th street, the park, and the Charles Allen gate by that time. So yes they would know by that point if that was her last picture they had, before she got into the park. We are talking about a small area here, don't forget.
