Arizona girl, 2, left in car by father on 109-degree day and is found dead #2

[mickey2942]

I am just cynical enough to wonder if Parker had any identified disabilities or life insurance.

 

[al66pine]

I am just cynical enough to wonder if Parker had any identified disabilities or life insurance.

@mickey2942
Some others here have wondered about that too.
Sad to think about.

 

[Herat]

@mickey2942
Some others here have wondered about that too.
Sad to think about.

Well, it should always be something that needs to be checked in an unanticipated death.

Just as drug and alcohol testing should have been done on CS when LE arrived. This is a big omission and I am really shocked in this oversight. It could be that LE may have been deferential to the mother's profession or socio-economic status.

 

[al66pine]

Life Ins? Alcohol Testing?

Well, it should always be something that needs to be checked in an unanticipated death.
Just as drug and alcohol testing should have been done on CS when LE arrived. This is a big omission and I am really shocked in this oversight. It could be that LE may have been deferential to the mother's profession or socio-economic status.

@Herat
Re Life Ins. Absolutely, positively. LE should investigate whether any policies are in force on persons dying under suspicious circumstances. Adults, kids, toddlers.

Re drug or alcohol testing on Father. I recall a reference to items seized pursuant to a warrant and IIRC, a cup or glass w beverage was taken by LE.
If it was alcohol, hopefully LE did have blood drawn (or approp. tests done).

 

[Herat]

Life Ins? Alcohol Testing?

@Herat
Re Life Ins. Absolutely, positively. LE should investigate whether any policies are in force on persons dying under suspicious circumstances. Adults, kids, toddlers.

Re drug or alcohol testing on Father. I recall a reference to items seized pursuant to a warrant and IIRC, a cup or glass w beverage was taken by LE.
If it was alcohol, hopefully LE did have blood drawn (or approp. tests done).

The blood draw for alcohol and drug screening needs to be done at the time of the arrest. Waiting for the results of testing on a cup may result in significant levels be below detectable levels.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Are we sure it wasn't done? If it wasn't, I'm surprised it's not policy.

He would have reeked of alcohol when LE showed up. IMO.

 

[MsMarple]

The problem with alcohol testing at arrest is that in this case the child died in the car on July 9 and the father was arrested on July 12. So any testing should have been conducted immediately.

It seems like msm would have reported if blood had been taken on the 9th but so far there’s been nothing. MSM did report that a glass filled with a liquid had been removed later that evening while LE searched the home.

Hopefully the search warrant covered a blood draw but it may take a while before we get an answer.

As far as I know there’s no law requiring blood testing a caregiver when a child is left to die in a hot car. But there sure as heck should be. If a police officer is allowed to stop a person driving erratically and give them a breathalyzer then they should check the same in hot car deaths.
JMO

 

[Mauig’ma]

The problem with alcohol testing at arrest is that in this case the child died in the car on July 9 and the father was arrested on July 12. So any testing should have been conducted immediately.

It seems like msm would have reported if blood had been taken on the 9th but so far there’s been nothing. MSM did report that a glass filled with a liquid had been removed later that evening while LE searched the home.

Hopefully the search warrant covered a blood draw but it may take a while before we get an answer.

As far as I know there’s no law requiring blood testing a caregiver when a child is left to die in a hot car. But there sure as heck should be. If a police officer is allowed to stop a person driving erratically and give them a breathalyzer then they should check the same in hot car deaths.
JMO

Agree with everything you say

 

[Angelcat13]

Until we hear more, it appears the mother is going to prioritize the husband over her children. A persistent and worrisome pattern.

This is so sad. I had my first son at 17 y/o as a Senior in HS and chose, BEFORE ANYONE (except me) knew I was pregnant, to leave my boyfriend because of his sketchy/dangerous family situation and NEVER told him or anyone except my parents, sister and (later) my husband who the father was. It was what I had to do to protect him. When my son was 5 y/o my ex-BF tried to come back into our lives and there were several months where we lived in fear. I was only 22 y/o and was horrified to realize I was capable of killing someone. Fortunately it never came to that, but I had played scenarios over and over in my head how I would protect my son if I had to. I would have killed - and died - for my son.

This “woman” - I can’t even bring myself to call her a mother - has essentially sold out her surviving children to hold onto her “man” and keep some (fake) semblance of the perfect life. This is such a slap in the face to every parent who has had to fight for their children (whether for legal, safety, health, etc reasons), for those that have lost children and those that desperately wanted children and were unable to have them.

 

[mickey2942]

Well, if they didn't test for alcohol, that ship has sailed. Geez, what is it with the LEO in the Phoenix area?! In Gilbert, AZ, the police cleaned up after Charles Vallow was shot and killed. Here, a baby dies in the hot car, and they don't secure the scene and test the primary caregiver, CS, for drugs or alcohol.

Get it together, LEO!!!

 

[abyquinn]

Well, if they didn't test for alcohol, that ship has sailed. Geez, what is it with the LEO in the Phoenix area?! In Gilbert, AZ, the police cleaned up after Charles Vallow was shot and killed. Here, a baby dies in the hot car, and they don't secure the scene and test the primary caregiver, CS, for drugs or alcohol.

Get it together, LEO!!!

Actually, we don’t know if CS was screened for drugs or alcohol on 7/9. We know LE found a cup or glass of something and they collected it as evidence. We know that he got a 5 finger discount for several cans of beer at a grocery store & a mini mart at a gas station. We know he went into the men’s room at the gas station with 3 cans of beer and left carrying 1 can. Walked out without stopping at the cashier. I don’t recall the circumstances at the grocery, just that he took some cans of beer from an ice box and left without paying for them. More importantly, he had little Parker with him that morning and she wasn’t seen in either store - apparently he left her in the car while he was “shopping”.

That evening, after ES called and told him Parker was deceased, CS was taken to Banner Hospital in Tucson. They would’ve had everything they needed to collect & test him for drugs or alcohol.

Gilbert, AZ is just North West of Phoenix. Phoenix is about an hour North West of Marana, so LE in Phoenix doesn’t work with Marana. Marana is just North of Tucson. Marana has about 47,000 people, so some services in Marana are shared with/borrowed from Tucson. The LEOs at the house to arrest CS were Marana PD. On 7/9, LEOs at the house inside & out were probably Marana PD with Tucson PD or SD as back up.

 

[Charlot123]

The problem with alcohol testing at arrest is that in this case the child died in the car on July 9 and the father was arrested on July 12. So any testing should have been conducted immediately.

It seems like msm would have reported if blood had been taken on the 9th but so far there’s been nothing. MSM did report that a glass filled with a liquid had been removed later that evening while LE searched the home.

Hopefully the search warrant covered a blood draw but it may take a while before we get an answer.

As far as I know there’s no law requiring blood testing a caregiver when a child is left to die in a hot car. But there sure as heck should be. If a police officer is allowed to stop a person driving erratically and give them a breathalyzer then they should check the same in hot car deaths.
JMO

I wonder if DUI rules apply. DUI does not mean “blood level over 0.08”, it could be “BAL 0.05 but impaired to drive.” Field sobriety test, for example. So if the police confirms that CS looked drunk on July 9th, it can’t be neglected. On the other hand, what applies to driving may not apply to babysitting. We have determined levels for DYI, but there is no specific BAL above which you are not allowed to babysit.

 

[mickey2942]

I wonder if DUI rules apply. DUI does not mean “blood level over 0.08”, it could be “BAL 0.05 but impaired to drive.” Field sobriety test, for example. So if the police confirms that CS looked drunk on July 9th, it can’t be neglected. On the other hand, what applies to driving may not apply to babysitting. We have determined levels for DYI, but there is no specific BAL above which you are not allowed to babysit.

I have thought about that. But he did have the keys, of what he states he thought was a running vehicle. That can be inferred as "intent" to drive, same as when people who have passed out in their car. They are not driving, but arrested for DUI, nonetheless.

Miami cop charged with DUI after being found passed out in car with gun on lap: Police

A Miami police officer was arrested on a DUI Monday night after he was found passed out inside a car with a gun on his lap.

www.nbcmiami.com

 

[Charlot123]

I have thought about that. But he did have the keys, of what he states he thought was a running vehicle. That can be inferred as "intent" to drive, same as when people who have passed out in their car. They are not driving, but arrested for DUI, nonetheless.

Miami cop charged with DUI after being found passed out in car with gun on lap: Police

A Miami police officer was arrested on a DUI Monday night after he was found passed out inside a car with a gun on his lap.

www.nbcmiami.com

Makes sense.

Driving Under the Influence (DUI) | Department of Transportation

It is unlawful for any person who is under the influence of intoxicating liquor or any drugs to drive or be in actual physical control of any vehicle.

azdot.gov

I don't know how much "looking drunk" is taken into account; in my state it very well may be. However, this "You may be found guilty of driving while intoxicated or while under the influence of any drug or its metabolite even though the blood alcohol concentration was less than 0.08 percent" from AZ DUI laws might imply exactly this.

 

[mainemom376]

DBM. Wrong thread

 

[Rosydecember]

Any updates??

 

[abyquinn]

Any updates??

I spent all day yesterday looking in the AZ courts for anything about this case and another. He has a hearing coming up, IIRC on 11/20 @ 9am. Fingers crossed it is on as scheduled.

I wasted a couple hours earlier in the week looking for ES in Banner Hospital & UA and found nothing. I don’t know if I had bad luck or if both have been scrubbed. I only found 1 other anesthesiologist so I suspect I missed something.

 

[Normancita]

Is there still a pre-trial motion scheduled for this month?

 

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[airportwoman]

I spent all day yesterday looking in the AZ courts for anything about this case and another. He has a hearing coming up, IIRC on 11/20 @ 9am. Fingers crossed it is on as scheduled.

I wasted a couple hours earlier in the week looking for ES in Banner Hospital & UA and found nothing. I don’t know if I had bad luck or if both have been scrubbed. I only found 1 other anesthesiologist so I suspect I missed something.

Anesthesiologists are more and more likely to be contract workers.