Arizona girl, 2, left in car by father on 109-degree day and is found dead

[MsMarple]

Agree, but I don't see how a No Contact order is feasible in the family home.

It seems like a nice suburban home, but they do not appear to have a separate mother-in-law or other outbuilding where he could be away from the children.

Do the girls have to be removed from the home so he can get meals? How disruptive would that be? Do they have to leave at times for him to use the "exercise equipment" in the garage that was his excuse for leaving the car outside?

LE certainly would not allow this for a sexual abuser, why would he get any exceptions in this case?

Seems like the easiest solution (if he’s granted bail) is for him to move out of the home. If mom is faced with a choice between him and her surviving daughters I would hope that she’d boot him out. MOO

 

[LifeIsAMystery]

Agree, but I don't see how a No Contact order is feasible in the family home.

It seems like a nice suburban home, but they do not appear to have a separate mother-in-law or other outbuilding where he could be away from the children.

Do the girls have to be removed from the home so he can get meals? How disruptive would that be? Do they have to leave at times for him to use the "exercise equipment" in the garage that was his excuse for leaving the car outside?

LE certainly would not allow this for a sexual abuser, why would he get any exceptions in this case?

Agree, and this is after AZ removed a 4th child from that home. Once the charges were escalated and the children both said BOTH parents told them to LIE to LE, he should have been put back in jail or in a half way house or similar IMHOO.

 

[LifeIsAMystery]

Seems like the easiest solution (if he’s granted bail) is for him to move out of the home. If mom is faced with a choice between him and her surviving daughters I would hope that she’d boot him out. MOO

I would hope too, but, wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't send them off if there is family available. He has no income. If there is bail, she would be the one to pay it. She is also paying for his lawyer and is NOT WORKING HERSELF since the court ordered him not to be alone with the kids. But to HER, the WORST thing would be him not there.

Better he be jailed, she return to work (practice and teaching) and hire competent child care and a trauma therapist for the kids. But she is focused only on him and her own ongoing access to him. She laughably projects that same need onto the children who likely fear for safety and worry @ retaliation.

The situation is bizarre and dangerous IMOOO. With 1st degree charges the stress has increased exponentially. AZ needs to be pushed to act. <modsnip - Websleuths does not condone members inserting themselves into the cases>

 

[ChatteringBirds]

I find the use of the term "perfect" to be strangely unemotional and objective.

I actually interpreted that as an expression of anguish... that she was in shock and saying, we have lost our perfect little-one. I didn't take it as unemotional nor a comparison to any other child.

 

[IDK]

I have noticed in many pictures CS has what appears to be a growth on his right lower lip? Now I’m thinking it may be a piercing? Just curious as to what it could be:

Harrowing autopsy update after girl, 2, was left to die in hot car

Parker Scholtes was found dead in the blue 2023 Honda Acura SUV after about 4.15pm on July 9 outside the family home in Marana, north of Tucson, Arizona .

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Normancita]

Are any of their social media accounts still up?

I can’t find any.

 

[BrownRice]

snipped for focus @Charlot Yes, "perfect" could be a comparison to his older dau or their older dau.'s.

Or is it possible that Parker had a developmental delay, physical impairment, disease, an injury caused by -IDK what-
and that CS had expressed his thought/feeling to ES that Parker was somehow 'lesser than' their dau's?
Or 'lesser than' children gen'ly?
( @iamshadow21 My ^ phrasing is clumsy. Can you help pls?)

And in prior convo's ES may have disputed that idea and had been saying she was perfect? And repeated it in text to CS that day?

I may be stretching here w this line of possibilty.
@Charlot123 Yes, strange wording.

Yes, I’ve always thought “perfect” was an odd word. Don’t most parents think their kids are perfect (when they are little at least ).

 

[MsMarple]

Yes, I’ve always thought “perfect” was an odd word. Don’t most parents think their kids are perfect (when they are little at least ).

I’m struggling with a lot of what was said between the parents. Presumably the father stayed behind to speak with LE while the mother traveled to the hospital to be with her daughter.

If so then why would they be texting back and forth? Maybe I’m just too old school to appreciate the way younger people communicate these days. I would expect the priority to be the child rather than blaming and apologizing through texts.

Then again it might have been very clear that the girl was deceased and so the focus was on blame?

This case has me scratching my head. As a former SAHM I know for sure my husband would be too angry at me to even chastise me and vice versa. All MOO

 

[vlbay]

I actually interpreted that as an expression of anguish... that she was in shock and saying, we have lost our perfect little-one. I didn't take it as unemotional nor a comparison to any other child.

I agree. I don't think there's anything weird about using the word perfect. It sounds like something someone who just lost a child and is with them for the last time might say. There's plenty of other stuff to analyze in this case, but this feels like a reach.

 

[ErinC]

Word choice aside- is there any point in that 911 call or any of the communications, at which he calls Parker by her name, instead of just "the baby" "our baby"? Because I could have missed it, but I haven't heard it yet...telling if so.

 

[abyquinn]

I’m struggling with a lot of what was said between the parents. Presumably the father stayed behind to speak with LE while the mother traveled to the hospital to be with her daughter.

If so then why would they be texting back and forth? Maybe I’m just too old school to appreciate the way younger people communicate these days. I would expect the priority to be the child rather than blaming and apologizing through texts.

Then again it might have been very clear that the girl was deceased and so the focus was on blame?

This case has me scratching my head. As a former SAHM I know for sure my husband would be too angry at me to even chastise me and vice versa. All MOO

I don’t think there was any question about Parker being deceased. She had skin slippage on her face and lesions (burns) all over. Brain death occurs at 107*, Parker was 108.9 IIRC. Of course with a baby you always hope but I think that poor baby had been dead for quite awhile. MOO

Warning graphic One thing I noticed in the autopsy, Parker didn’t have any damage to her hands & fingers like I would’ve expected if she had been awake. No bruises from struggling to get out of the car seat. No self inflicted wounds, or her own skin under her nails from pinching/scratching herself. No mention of her hair being pulled out. All things I’ve read kids have done when locked in a hot car. This gives me a small amount of hope that she didn’t wake up before succumbing to the heat. I always hope this is the case for these poor babies, although I realize it is seldom true.

I can see them texting, they wouldn’t have had a chance to speak to each other before taking Parker to the ER. They probably use text when communicating while she’s at work. I’m guessing they didn’t think about LE taking their phones as evidence. I wouldn’t have been able to text or speak to my husband under their circumstances - I highly doubt I would’ve asked the judge to let him come home, jail would’ve been safer for him.