*Arrest* Holly Bobo investigation- TBI press conference 5 March 2014

[Kelly Faraday]

IMO There is a new mugshot released today and I swear it looks like there is a tear in his right eye. No smile. Looks like he is pouting. Hope so. I think it was ABC, I'm looking for the link now. It's hard to pick ine. It's on all networks, just different versions.

http://www.wbbjtv.com/news/local/Sheriff-Zach-Adams-in-Solitary-Confinment-248874941.html

If there is, it is for HIMSELF. :furious:

 

[mck16]

Cruelty to animals is one of the strongest indicators of someone developing into a violent offender. It's part of the "triad" of behaviors that are found in serial killers. People who derive pleasure from hurting, torturing, killing animals don't see animals, or people for that matter, as anything more than disposable pawns. They are devoid of empathy or love or care. People should have never allowed him around pets. Or people, IMO...

in my opinion it just shows what chicken sh_ts they are. They pick on someone or something that cannot defend themselves. They are cowards and scum devoid of any human feelings. They are a shell and an imposter of a person. I hope he gets the death penalty and he suffers as he enters hell. jmo

 

[~n/t~]

Wow! Those dark circles around his eyes, get darker and darker with every mug shot....

He knows he's never getting out again.

 

[jggordo]

I believe one of the biggest breaks are yet to come. A big change is, he's off the streets with no bond. Everyone who has been afraid to step forward now can. His own family can now sleep better. If the dog could talk...he'd testify. (bless his innocent heart).

I honestly think that a good deal of people have been afraid of his being just evil and scary and most of all unpredictable. The Devil is just evil with a "D" on it.

 

[21merc7]

Looking at the following accounting of only SOME of his history, maybe one of the most stunning items is at the bottom - the response of his family to all of this. Denial? Enablers? On some level, their reaction is almost criminal imo.

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Don't know them personally, but I would say it is deep denial. Families can love unconditionally. Some friends can too. All that they see is the good ZA is trapped inside, and the drugs are what is bad. The drugs took over, but ZA as they love him, is still in there.

Unfortunately, it does not sound like that is the reality of the matter to those of us on the outside looking in. We see him as what he is. A drug user that is out of control. He reached the violent point years ago, clearly rehab did not help. It rarely does. Family cannot accept that, they still hope for the good boy to get his act together. Maybe once the murder charges and any evidence are made known to the family, they can come to some sort of terms. That the good boy is gone, forever. That this is who he is, now, and always will be.

Quite frankly, jail may have saved his life, at best, it will prolong it. It looks like it wasn't going to be a very long one otherwise.

Feel kind of sorry for them. It can't have been easy, it will not be easy to accept he is a murderer either.

 

[mck16]

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Don't know them personally, but I would say it is deep denial. Families can love unconditionally. Some friends can too. All that they see is the good ZA is trapped inside, and the drugs are what is bad. The drugs took over, but ZA as they love him, is still in there.

Unfortunately, it does not sound like that is the reality of the matter to those of us on the outside looking in. We see him as what he is. A drug user that is out of control. He reached the violent point years ago, clearly rehab did not help. It rarely does. Family cannot accept that, they still hope for the good boy to get his act together. Maybe once the murder charges and any evidence are made known to the family, they can come to some sort of terms. That the good boy is gone, forever. That this is who he is, now, and always will be.



Quite frankly, jail may have saved his life, at best, it will prolong it. It looks like it wasn't going to be a very long one otherwise.

Feel kind of sorry for them. It can't have been easy, it will not be easy to accept he is a murderer either.

His parents filed an rso against him and said they were afraid of him. Said he was a danger to the whole town. So, they had to know he was capable of murder. jmo

 

[bearfossils]

in my opinion it just shows what chicken sh_ts they are. They pick on someone or something that cannot defend themselves. They are cowards and scum devoid of any human feelings. They are a shell and an imposter of a person. I hope he gets the death penalty and he suffers as he enters hell. jmo

You are right on point. These are not people – they are just shells, just monsters in well-fashioned masks who move among us like a predator among prey. Those who harm choose to harm those who are weaker, those they believe are "beneath them". They have a bloated sense of entitlement and self-importance, and are total delusional narcissists. But like you said, they are weak to the core – JMO but prison will eat them alive.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

We know it is possible he was the one to try and kidnap the other woman prior to Holly. Shouldn't we be looking for other cases in the area which could fit his MO and look at other missing people for additional victims?

It is obvious he has much experience and no conscience. He didn't start with Holly and he had 3 additional years to carry out more horrific scenarios. I don't believe LE was watching him closely after Holly went missing or he would have been in jail long before now.

He has been a serial killer in the making his whole life it appears. You do not wake up one day and shoot your mother in the knee at point blank range. Some people are simply born without a conscience. They are psychopaths/sociopaths from the minute they take a breath. No empathy. No remorse of any kind. He appears to be one of those. I don't buy that drugs turned him into this homicidal maniac. He was taking drugs to enhance his already warped sense of reality, imo. I think people have been scared of him since he was a child and he made sure of it. They never knew what he would do if he got angry or decided he was going to act out.

I don't think jail scares him either. Where you see a possible tear and remorse on his face...I see seething and rage below the surface. That man does not cry or feel anything. He is void of emotion other than thriving on his own brutality and anger.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

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Don't know them personally, but I would say it is deep denial. Families can love unconditionally. Some friends can too. All that they see is the good ZA is trapped inside, and the drugs are what is bad. The drugs took over, but ZA as they love him, is still in there.

Unfortunately, it does not sound like that is the reality of the matter to those of us on the outside looking in. We see him as what he is. A drug user that is out of control. He reached the violent point years ago, clearly rehab did not help. It rarely does. Family cannot accept that, they still hope for the good boy to get his act together. Maybe once the murder charges and any evidence are made known to the family, they can come to some sort of terms. That the good boy is gone, forever. That this is who he is, now, and always will be.

Quite frankly, jail may have saved his life, at best, it will prolong it. It looks like it wasn't going to be a very long one otherwise.

Feel kind of sorry for them. It can't have been easy, it will not be easy to accept he is a murderer either.

I just don't see them in denial. They deny publicly only, imo, but what they went through with him in their real life they have known for sometime he is a very dangerous individual..........even against his own family members. It seems everyone he came into contact with suffered from his violent ways. Woman after woman beaten. Shooting his own mother...shooting a defenseless dog..........threatening to shoot other close family members. And that is just whats known to date. More and more things are going to rise to the surface now, imo.

They knew without a doubt how dangerous he was. In the letter the father wrote to the court he even said he was a danger to them and the COMMUNITY and Holly was a part of that community. Cant get much plainer than that.

Yet, now his mom and grandpa are re-writing history making excuses for him when there is none to be made.

I think the first time Cindy Adams spoke out in the media after he had been arrested for the aggravated assault against the sister of his pathetic girlfriend was the only truthful statement she has made. She said, I am not saying that either of my sons couldn't be involved in Holly's disappearance. (paraphrasing) Then she began to spin everything trying to make him look like a victim of the media. I think she even suspected that ZAs was involved and possibly her other imprisoned son as well.

I usually try to have compassion for family members of the defendant but in this case, I just cant. I truly believe they helped make Adams into the narcissistic sociopath that I believe he is.

They seem to give him everything and always bailed him out or used their influence to get him sweetheart deals. With his violent history he shouldn't have ever been out in the first place. I wouldn't be surprised to learn he has harmed many others.

IMO

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I just don't see them in denial. They deny publicly only, imo, but what they went through with him in their real life they have known for sometime he is a very dangerous individual..........even against his own family members. It seems everyone he came into contact with suffered from his violent ways. Woman after woman beaten. Shooting his own mother...shooting a defenseless dog..........threatening to shoot other close family members. And that is just whats known to date. More and more things are going to rise to the surface now, imo.

They knew without a doubt how dangerous he was. In the letter the father wrote to the court he even said he was a danger to them and the COMMUNITY and Holly was a part of that community. Cant get much plainer than that.

Yet, now his mom and grandpa are re-writing history making excuses for him when there is none to be made.

I think the first time Cindy Adams spoke out in the media after he had been arrested for the aggravated assault against the sister of his pathetic girlfriend was the only truthful statement she has made. She said, I am not saying that either of my sons couldn't be involved in Holly's disappearance. (paraphrasing) Then she began to spin everything trying to make him look like a victim of the media. I think she even suspected that ZAs was involved and possibly her other imprisoned son as well.

I usually try to have compassion for family members of the defendant but in this case, I just cant. I truly believe they helped make Adams into the narcissistic sociopath that I believe he is.

They seem to give him everything and always bailed him out or used their influence to get him sweetheart deals. With his violent history he shouldn't have ever been out in the first place. I wouldn't be surprised to learn he has harmed many others.

IMO

BBM

Is this an assumption on your part, Ocean, or did you see this somewhere in msm? For all I know, perhaps this family did everything in their power to get ZA real help. I don't know that they bailed him out...they may have, but I don't know that. I just think it's far too easy to cast aspersions on people when we really don't know the circumstances. And even if what you assume is true, what purpose does it serve to trash this family here on a public forum? They aren't responsible for the actions of a grown man, are they? And THEY didn't murder anyone, did they?

Just my 2 cents. Shutting up now.

 

[gitana1]

I think they have more than some people just talking. A lot of people that would be talking are criminals and bald face liars.

I think they found something very significant in the three day search. Something they may have been looking for and knew what it was before they went in.

JMO

You were right. And it appears LE has been onto this guy for awhile, just waiting for their chance to issue search warrants. I guess they have been doing their job after all. Without, I might add, the public being given all the evidence pivotal to the investigation!!!:angel:

 

[SteveS]

Maybe once the murder charges and any evidence are made known to the family, they can come to some sort of terms. That the good boy is gone, forever. That this is who he is, now, and always will be.

He shot them, threatened them, and they had restraining orders against him, fearing for their lives. He idly shot the dog. And all of that didn't tell them anything? Wow.

In THAT context, we get proclamations that they assume his innocence, praising his sweetness, and the thought that they're going to hire him a high-dollar lawyer to get him out of this mess. That plays an extremely off-key note to me. Enablers to a woman-abusing killer imo.

 

[Bravo]

His parents filed an rso against him and said they were afraid of him. Said he was a danger to the whole town. So, they had to know he was capable of murder. jmo

Yes but in their defense we don't know exactly what they may have tried. Gave up when it appeared he was not going to do any hard time. Left in fear.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

We know it is possible he was the one to try and kidnap the other woman prior to Holly. Shouldn't we be looking for other cases in the area which could fit his MO and look at other missing people for additional victims?

It is obvious he has much experience and no conscience. He didn't start with Holly and he had 3 additional years to carry out more horrific scenarios. I don't believe LE was watching him closely after Holly went missing or he would have been in jail long before now.

He has been a serial killer in the making his whole life it appears. You do not wake up one day and shoot your mother in the knee at point blank range. Some people are simply born without a conscience. They are psychopaths/sociopaths from the minute they take a breath. No empathy. No remorse of any kind. He appears to be one of those. I don't buy that drugs turned him into this homicidal maniac. He was taking drugs to enhance his already warped sense of reality, imo. I think people have been scared of him since he was a child and he made sure of it. They never knew what he would do if he got angry or decided he was going to act out.

I don't think jail scares him either. Where you see a possible tear and remorse on his face...I see seething and rage below the surface. That man does not cry or feel anything. He is void of emotion other than thriving on his own brutality and anger.

You would think after kidnapping and murdering Holly and thinking he got away with it that he would lay low and not act out violently toward others. But of course we know he didn't. That indeed shows me he is a sociopath without a conscience. He doesn't give a damn about anyone or anything except himself.

Someone even slightly gets out of line (according to him) he is all ready to pull a weapon on them and threaten to kill them or put a knife in their stomach and threaten to gut them like a fish or beat the crap out of them.

I don't know if I see rage.....I see a man devoid of remorse, without a soul and one who thinks he will always get out of this too. Why shouldn't he feel that way? For over a decade he has been convinced that he is special and breaking laws when it comes to him means special treatment.

I don't believe the drugs enhanced anything either. What he is on the surface is what he has always been inside. A cold violent unfeeling creep who thrives off of terrorizing others wanting them to be afraid of him.

So has he done other unspeakable violent acts since he murdered Holly? I think so. And I have read that when a murderer thinks they have gotten away with it they get cocky and over-confident and will do it again.

I think he needed violence as much as he needed his drugs. Maybe moreso. It probably gave him high/rush/thrill knowing that he had murdered her and no one was coming to arrest him for it. He probably relished in the pain he brought upon Clint and the entire Bobo family. I think he is a sadistic monster.

 

[Bravo]

I am just going to sit back and see how the Family situation plays out. If they hire a big shot Lawyer and start defending him it will speak all on it's own. If they don't as I said perhaps they did all they could. Hoped the Courts would help but feared him greatly. IIRC Mom lives in Atlanta now?

 

[bearfossils]

...I don't buy that drugs turned him into this homicidal maniac. He was taking drugs to enhance his already warped sense of reality, imo. I think people have been scared of him since he was a child and he made sure of it. They never knew what he would do if he got angry or decided he was going to act out...

ITA. Drugs may have contributed to his negative behavior, and definitely made things worse, but they didn't "make" someone like this. The more we learn, the more we see the picture develop of someone who has a long history of violent, dangerous, threatening behavior. Red flags all around. It seems like a lot of people have their heads in the sand and have had them there awhile. Someone should have intervened in a serious manner long ago, IMO.

Like I said before, I would not be surprised if we began to hear from women he victimized, frightened, or simply left a creepy negative impression on. Now that he is locked up, the fear he seemed to hold over people is dissipating and I think we will be hearing more and more. Sadistic, narcissistic men with a violent hatred toward women aren't made from the fumes of a meth pipe. They slowly develop overtime and from an early age, IMO.

:sick:

 

[steelman]

What bothers me the most about this case now is the fact that there will be a waiting list of high profile lawyers just itching to take this case on for the publicity alone. The only court appointed attorney this rat deserves is the dumbest, drunkest, lowest bar-scoring lawyer in Tennessee. A bunch of slick lawyers trying to get this case dismissed on technicalities is enough to make people want to take a baseball bat to their televisions. Don't be surprised either if they end up assigning him a female attorney as well to help soften up his wife-beating reputation for the jury.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I am just going to sit back and see how the Family situation plays out. If they hire a big shot Lawyer and start defending him it will speak all on it's own. If they don't as I said perhaps they did all they could. Hoped the Courts would help but feared him greatly. IIRC Mom lives in Atlanta now?

Maybe he has drained them dry by now. I would think they have already spent thousands of dollars in attorney fees for the other 25 arrests he has.

So they may be broke and even though his grandpa has a lot of land he may not have money to go with it.

Cindy Adams is already defending him. She did an about face from her first interview and said the media was 'picking' on her whittle son. GAG!

 

[mck16]

BBM

Is this an assumption on your part, Ocean, or did you see this somewhere in msm? For all I know, perhaps this family did everything in their power to get ZA real help. I don't know that they bailed him out...they may have, but I don't know that. I just think it's far too easy to cast aspersions on people when we really don't know the circumstances. And even if what you assume is true, what purpose does it serve to trash this family here on a public forum? They aren't responsible for the actions of a grown man, are they? And THEY didn't murder anyone, did they?

Just my 2 cents. Shutting up now.

this isn't something that happened overnight. It began in 2011 or way before.n he shot his mother when he was 19. they didn't murder anyone did they, did they? jmo

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Like it or not, no one ever says they have a bad egg for a kid. I've never heard a mom say they have a dumb kid; an ugly kid, or a dangerous psychopathic kid.

Look at Cindy and George Anthony... they knew full well what their daugher did yet could never fully get out of denial and parental mode when it came to telling the truth at the trial.