ARRESTED- Luka Rocco Magnotta:1st deg murder charge #9

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There are many escort companys as well as "Massage parlors" in montreal.

Yes, Montreal is your typical urban center and as with ALL big cities, has it's darker underworld. I would hate to give the wrong impression of my beautiful and mostly SAFE city. :D
 
Canadian forces plane: very predictable.

I am not sure if anyone can answer this. What is it about this crime that makes sleuthers so adamant that this is his only human homicide? (For example it wasn't media that first spoke of him possibly being linked to other crimes it was the police).

I am not asking whether it was his only homicide or not - but given that we know so little about him or his timeline - yet the majority seem to wish very much for it to be true, almost as if they want to contain him. It mirrors very much what the Canadian state will wish to do. The other thing I have noted is that there is more empathy from some posters for L.M. than you might expect.

I am not saying anything is right or wrong just perplexed. Is it something about him, something about the crime, something about us?

Personally, I think this was his first human killing. The entire thing was too bungled for it to be otherwise. If he left so many obvious leads back to himself this time, he would have other times, if there were other times, as well.
As far as empathy for LM: I think it is very heartening to see the amount of empathy he is getting. It separates US from people like HIM, doesn't it? Something happened to this young man, somewhere along the line to bring him to this end, and I think there is a bunch of "There, but for the grace of God, go I" going on in these posts. Some of us come from our own troubled backgrounds and have struggled with mental health issues of our own that we have managed to control, hopefully thanks to loving family and friends, both of which were sadly missing in Luka's life.
 
Yes, Montreal is your typical urban center and as with ALL big cities, has it's darker underworld. I would hate to give the wrong impression of my beautiful and mostly SAFE city. :D

Well said! :biggrin: For that matter, ALL places have a darker side. I went into a pharmacy yesterday way 'up north' near our summer home and lo and behold there was a sign which read: "WE DO NOT KEEP OXYCODONE ON THE PREMISES". And I'm in a town of a few hundred! That's just real 'life' in action. People are human with human needs/vices/desires/etc.

This dude does not represent the beautiful city of Montreal nor does he represent my home town of Toronto.

:jail:
 
I think he did not want to get caught before! This time he did and actually really did not bungle a lot - very carefully organized, planned, with previews getting interest in the upcoming movie opening at a theatre near you, etc etc. This was very planned, organized, produced, marketed and as a result he was the biggest story on the globe for 8 days -- blockbuster producers have trouble getting that kind of publicity all for free! What did he bungle, the whole planet knows him, follows him and the real circus now starts!
 
I think he did not want to get caught before! This time he did and actually really did not bungle a lot - very carefully organized, planned, with previews getting interest in the upcoming movie opening at a theatre near you, etc etc. This was very planned, organized, produced, marketed and as a result he was the biggest story on the globe for 8 days -- blockbuster producers have trouble getting that kind of publicity all for free! What did he bungle, the whole planet knows him, follows him and the real circus now starts!

I don't think he wanted to get caught at all, or he wouldn't have run off to Paris and from there, Germany. Yes, I agree the spotlight on him was something he craved, no doubt. It is a part of his psyche, evidenced by the kitten killvids. If we follow his pattern of behavior, there would be other killvids similar to Lin Jun's murder surfacing. There are not. I simply do not believe he would have committed murder prior to this one, and kept silent about it. It's not his way.
 
A simple Branch cutter would cut bone with no problem. With no Noise
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He used an angle grinder you can see him holding it in his right hand in the first 40 seconds of the video.
 
I watched the part of the video with the animal in it again after reading the 4chan comments and personally, I'm almost sure now that it is a puppy.
 
what i love about this thread is that while I'm sure EVERYONE here feels for the victim it does not mean we can't try to understand LM.I think it's important.
I don't have empathy for him but sometimes I do feel like a punch in the gut.
Like when I look at all the myspaces he made of his mom,sister,grandma pretending to be them and all these other fake people that love him and think he is so awesome.
That does get to me.When do you realize a person is loosing it,is there help?How and when can you intervene if you think someone may be heading that way?
 
Hey everyone, thanks for replying my questions! I'm a newbie so bear with me if this was discussed before and please moderators feel free to delete or modify my post if it goes against any rule of this forum.
I found one cached thread at http://chanarchive.org/4chan/b/47050
and it seems that Luka posted there himself with the nickname "blUNJBxK" talking about the murder. He says it was a cat (not a dog) in the 1 lunatic 1 icepick video and wrote a lot of graphic details about how it happened, information that I don't remember being released by the press at that time. I don't think it's some random troll who wrote those things. If that was indeed Luka who posted, it explains why he did and how.
Any thoughts? sorry, if this was discussed before, thanks in advance!

I'm bringing this back up again for one post... Did anyone ever figure this comment out?

Anonymous (ID: blUNJBxK) 05/30/12(Wed)19:27:12 No.403085661

the video contains references to various horrors that have inspired luka, the song 'New order - True Faith' being from the opening scene of the popular classic, 'American Psyco', can anyone spot the other references? you'll **** bricks when you realise :)
 
I'm bringing this back up again for one post... Did anyone ever figure this comment out?

Anonymous (ID: blUNJBxK) 05/30/12(Wed)19:27:12 No.403085661

the video contains references to various horrors that have inspired luka, the song 'New order - True Faith' being from the opening scene of the popular classic, 'American Psyco', can anyone spot the other references? you'll **** bricks when you realise :)

I kept scrolling down to see if he would explain himself, but to no avail. I admit, that caught my interest as well!
 
I'm bringing this back up again for one post... Did anyone ever figure this comment out?

Anonymous (ID: blUNJBxK) 05/30/12(Wed)19:27:12 No.403085661

the video contains references to various horrors that have inspired luka, the song 'New order - True Faith' being from the opening scene of the popular classic, 'American Psyco', can anyone spot the other references? you'll **** bricks when you realise :)

I'm guessing he means Basic Instinct - Ice Pick?
 
IN RESTRAINTS; SEEING A JUDGE WITHIN 24 HOURS:


http://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/76735/Luka-Magnotta-now-flying-home


Federal sources say the plane is also carrying German and Canadian officials, Royal Canadian Mounted Police officers and Canada Border Services Agency employees. The plane was already in Germany when it added Magnotta as a passenger.

Magnotta is being restrained during the flight.

The plane will land at an undisclosed location. The suspect, however, is expected to be in Montreal as soon as possible to face a judge.

The Quebec prosecutor's office said Magnotta would likely have to appear in court within 24 hours, in keeping with Article 503 of the Criminal Code.

 
Your post made me wonder so I did a search for "Casablanca" and "murder" and came up with this:

http://www.cracked.com/article_19099_12-classic-movie-moments-made-possible-by-abuse-murder_p2.html

"As a result, 15 cameramen and countless extras got knocked into the water and thrashed about for hours. The leading lady caught pneumonia, and one of the actors broke two ribs. According to one of the stuntmen on the scene, three extras drowned and one had to have a leg amputated (reports of that kind of thing kind of got swept under the rug back then)."

Could this be the reference Luka was making with the Casablanca movie poster seen in the murder video?

I'm bringing this back up again for one post... Did anyone ever figure this comment out?

Anonymous (ID: blUNJBxK) 05/30/12(Wed)19:27:12 No.403085661

the video contains references to various horrors that have inspired luka, the song 'New order - True Faith' being from the opening scene of the popular classic, 'American Psyco', can anyone spot the other references? you'll **** bricks when you realise :)
 
I watched the part of the video with the animal in it again after reading the 4chan comments and personally, I'm almost sure now that it is a puppy.

its impossible for me to stay caught up, so i musta missed this 4chan stuff. what exactly is 4chan cuz i have no clue.
 
IN RESTRAINTS; SEEING A JUDGE WITHIN 24 HOURS:


http://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/76735/Luka-Magnotta-now-flying-home


Federal sources say the plane is also carrying German and Canadian officials, Royal Canadian Mounted Police officers and Canada Border Services Agency employees. The plane was already in Germany when it added Magnotta as a passenger.

Magnotta is being restrained during the flight.

The plane will land at an undisclosed location. The suspect, however, is expected to be in Montreal as soon as possible to face a judge.

The Quebec prosecutor's office said Magnotta would likely have to appear in court within 24 hours, in keeping with Article 503 of the Criminal Code.


my guess is that will be 9am in Montreal..
 
It suddenly occurred to me that Casablanca might the name of a serial killer (not only a film and location) so I looked it up and surely it is. There was a serial killer named John Casablanca who operated in New York in the early part of the last century. It's hard to find info on him through a quick google search but maybe there's more info to be found somewhere.

I'm bringing this back up again for one post... Did anyone ever figure this comment out?

Anonymous (ID: blUNJBxK) 05/30/12(Wed)19:27:12 No.403085661

the video contains references to various horrors that have inspired luka, the song 'New order - True Faith' being from the opening scene of the popular classic, 'American Psyco', can anyone spot the other references? you'll **** bricks when you realise :)
 
It suddenly occurred to me that Casablanca might the name of a serial killer (not only a film and location) so I looked it up and surely it is. There was a serial killer named John Casablanca who operated in New York in the early part of the last century. It's hard to find info on him through a quick google search but maybe there's more info to be found somewhere.



Classification: Murderer
Characteristics: Mafia enforcer - Contract murders - Personal disputes
Number of victims: 5
Date of murders: 1965 / 1981
Date of birth: 1943
Victims profile: Men
Method of murder: Shooting
Location: New York, USA
Status: Plea bargain to three counts of manslaughter, 1965. Paroled in 1982. Ruled insane on two counts in 1981. Transferred to psychiatric hospital
 
Classification: Murderer
Characteristics: Mafia enforcer - Contract murders - Personal disputes
Number of victims: 5
Date of murders: 1965 / 1981
Date of birth: 1943
Victims profile: Men
Method of murder: Shooting
Location: New York, USA
Status: Plea bargain to three counts of manslaughter, 1965. Paroled in 1982. Ruled insane on two counts in 1981. Transferred to psychiatric hospital

Paroled the year luka was born... maybe his real dad. Que dramatic music
 
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