ARRESTED- Luka Rocco Magnotta:1st deg murder charge;INTERPOL alert #6

[Jezbel]

Just so you know....the UK Sun is not a legit news source. They feature things such and alien abductions stories and alien type creatures found....

It is what the National Inquire was back when I was a kid: "Elvis is alive and has baby with Bigfoot" type stories.....then they throw in celeb stories and crazy spins to "real news"

It is not the same as the Canadian Sun.....

I am on another forum and anytime a link to the UK Sun is posted, the thread is dismissed as.............crap.

although this is JMO, im sure others may feel it is a legit source for news.

Well The Sun is a tabloid paper so of course you have to take everything you read in it with a grain of salt, I wouldn't go as far as to comparing it to the Enquirer with aliens etc though.

JMO and slightly o/t

 

[Jujercu]

http://www.openfile.ca/montreal/blo...ss-interviews-shed-light-jun-lins-life-family

Just heartbreaking

 

[HastingsChi]

I have seen photos of him with a cross.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mpOOG1aGvyM/T85QZo_Y73I/AAAAAAAAONs/cgg2cAGVHXE/s1600/Luka+Magnotta.JPG


Which I thought was odd considering Newman, IMO, is a Jewish name. I also remember reading reference to Satanism but sorry don't have a link and honestly there has been so much posted about him that hard to know what's true or fake.

Tidbit: Badpuppy which is a major adult media company refuses to comment on Magnotta or confirm he did any work for them.

 

[prima.facie]

It has been puzzling me about why the question was asked about LRM's rings. About descriptions and pictures of them.

So I have my own question. In the picds of Jun Lin, did he wear any rings? Do we have close ups of those?

I am wondering if perhaps he did wear a ring and the ring was missing when the hands were recovered.

there are pics of LM wearing that damn gold ring way before Jun Lin entered the picture...

which makes me wonder who it did belong to (not Jun Lin, im sure)....someone he loved? someone he klled? a relative? but it is seen a LOT....

even i have jewerly i switch out and dont wear one thing daily....

 

[AudreyRose]

I just found a totally different web site with the EXACT same finger nail compulsion story, word for word. Now I'm wondering if it was just another one of LM's copy and paste jobs or if this one of his many sock puppets posting it on a different site:

LINK: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt90930.html

The person's username says Portland, Oregon and reading the person's response farther down on the page, I don't think it sounds like LM. My hunch is that it was a copy and paste job...

 

[udar55]

the fingernail post looks like a plagarism http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt90930.html

A lot of the blogs he did were plagiarized. Just search unique phrases in them and you'll find the originals. For example, I found a "review" he uploaded in January 2012 of the horror film A SERBIAN TALE (which is about snuff filmmakers) and he copied it word-for-word from another site (while, of course, including pics of himself). I contacted the original author to let him know and he was surprised.

 

[Jezbel]

I know the person to do it.:jail: Unlikely but wish he would.

Example:

Video: Russell Williams confession, Pt. 3 - YouTube

Aaah Detective Jim Smyth, you're right n/t, he would be perfect, he is a great man!

 

[AudreyRose]

A lot of the blogs he did were plagiarized. Just search unique phrases in them and you'll find the originals. For example, I found a "review" he uploaded in January 2012 of the horror film A SERBIAN TALE (which is about snuff filmmakers) and he copied it word-for-word from another site (while, of course, including pics of himself). I contacted the original author to let him know and he was surprised.

I don't understand the copy and paste thing. What does he get out of doing that? Is it a multiple personality thing??

 

[dandan08]

Something very similar was posted on the ripoffreport the very same day:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/modelin...a-bisexual-*advertiser censored*-ac-a0028.htm


BUT get this, when LM was posting around the net "promoting" the 1 Man 1 Icepick video on MAY 15th, he posted on the pyschforums asking if this person was a pyschopath or not. We know the murder hadn't even taken place yet, so that was obviously LM.

http://www.psychforums.com/antisocial-personality/topic89464.html

Sorry to requote myself.

If the posts on ripoffreport and http://www.scaminformer.com/scam-rep...es-c78766.html (found by james62) are by Luka Magnotta could these be used as evidence against him? If they are proven to be him by IP address or other means.

These posts were on the day of the murder. The reply comment on the ripoffreport was on the 25th May by Tony Luciforia also says "future serial killer" Surely if these are proven to be by him by LE, then this can be used as evidence.

I'm hoping LE is aware of these posts, as i'm sure they are.


To summerise:

- LM was promoting the 1 man 1 icepick video on "pyschforums" on May 15th, 9-10 days before the murder. In the post LM asks if this person in the video is a psychcopath
- 2 posts on ripoffreport and scaminformer show up on May 24th, the day of the murder (maybe before or after), claiming LM is a psychopath
- 1 reply on ripoffreport by Tony Luciforia (plus a facebook page), saying this person is a future serial killer.
- All these were typed in 3rd person, just like LM has done all his life whilst on the net

The 1 man 1 icepick video hadn't surfaced until the 25th May, and to my knowledge LM wasn't a suspect until a day or 2 later? Maybe longer.

 

[Chaslene]

You know, I might be changing my mind about the Hollywood murder (Medellin).

I was wondering- if he has done this before, why only now does he create such a big buzz about it? (the pre-video hype, the video, the pre-murder post which I believe to be him - see post 670 p.27) and the escape... so carefully staged?

Maybe the Hollywood killing was to see if he could actually do it. 'Practising' on a homeless man before getting ready for his big day. I don't think he is brave, I think he is actually quite scared right now in prison, therefore maybe he needed to prove to himself that he could do it, a rehearsal?

I've been thinking about that too alot. IMO this is his grand finale BUT we havent seen all of his "work" yet. To get the worlds attention, and not just be one of all serial killers (I know he's just a suspect of ONE murder so far). So I'm scared we only seen a little so far... and little by little we're going to be able to see the whole picture of this sick sick mind.

 

[FrayedKnot]

Yeah I've read that. Look at how many posts are made in a relativly short time... Imo that says that he easily gets obsessed with things and when he's finished with them he throws them away, like I said jmo.

Good observation, although I will say I am very much like that. Well, maybe not "throw" them away, but "put" them away and pick up again later when my interest in them is re-piqued.

Of course I refer to art media, book genres, web forums, other types of hobbies. Not people or anything skeery like that, lol!

I'm ADD, not a sociopath. Ahem.

But back to your comment, LM has definitely shown a pattern of serial one-mindedness (for lack of a better term). While that in itself may not be alarming, combined with his other personality (again, lack of a better word) traits, it could point at some much bigger issues as well as be crucial in leading LE to unsolved crimes.

Again, good observation!

 

[Karmady]

I have a question: Anybody been on deep web and found anything of use? I'm going to try to convince a friend tonight to go have a look. (I'm not so in to computers myself).

Haven't read all the threads from start so dunno if you guys have this.
http://mafiarussian.hubpages.com/hub/Luka-Magnotta-Russian-Mafia

Is that another of Magnottas accounts? Did he write that himself?

I have. Haven't found anything, but that might not be so easy to do and I haven't looked hard. Also, afaict, most of the worst places down there require invitations or at least registrations. I've checked out some sites where I might have expected him to post due to the subject matter, but nothing came up immediately. But I also wasn't spending the time to check for all of his bazillion sock puppets.

Btw, I blame WS. I was planning to have a glass of wine and read here but the thread was closed. Instead, I found myself on the darknet...hope y'all can live with yourselves lol

 

[AudreyRose]

Read first post here: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt90930.html

Looks like just another Luka plagarism in an attempt to make himself look crazyy :floorlaugh:

Sorry Meowen, I missed your post! Good catch!

 

[thedissent]

Hey all, I've updated the timeline again based on feedback.

NOTE: This timeline contains mainly established facts, but also potential suppositions and leads. I have qualified suppositions and leads with words such as "allegedly" or "claimed" or "there is some evidence that..."

In all cases, I've attempted to systematically document any facts, assertions, or suppositions with sources and links so people can verify.

Based on feedback, I've removed some entries concerning "Beavis Butthead" (such as comparisons between BB and the DataLounge troll), and focused mainly on facts concerning BB. Though BB may just be a troll, he has come up often in discussions-- and was accused in MSM that he may be BB-- so I think it's worthwhile to at least have the fact established he is not LRM (despite what some media outlets have erroneously reported).

Of course, I welcome any feedback and will repost to the non-discussion thread.

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TIMELINE
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2007 - LRM allegedly involved in flame wars on YouTube. There is some evidence that LRM already has many sockpuppets on YouTube and that his main YouTube account "lukamagnotta1" is suspended for abuse of TOS.

Evidence of these YouTube flame wars come from, among other things, from videos that other people made in response to LRM's abusive actions.

"Mega Man 999 Mega Man II" found on this YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/LtGradient - mocks LRM's use of "Megaman999Megaman" sockpuppet accounts as well as his hatred of homeless people.

"Goodbye lukamagnotta1" - found here: http://www.youtube.com/user/bloglops - celebrates that LRM's main YouTube account has been suspended.

Also, the dossier compiled by Animal Rights activists pursuing LRM documents some evidence of these early YouTube disputes:

See: http://www.abproject.org/docs/Kitten Killer 2010 - 2011.pdf


May, 2007 - LRM claims that a rumour has circulated around the Internet about him dating Karla Homolka, the infamous spouse and accomplice of serial killer Paul Bernardo. LRM calls into Toronto Sun News to be interviewed in order to "set the record straight". Claims the rumour is ruining his life.

Source: http://www.torontosun.com/videos/1663745829001


December, 2011 – LRM allegedly shows up at Sun News office in the UK to dispute a story that he was involved with animal abuse videos online. After the interview, UK Sun claims LRM emails the Sun with the alias “John Kilbride” and threatens that he will make a "new video" involving "humans" .

Source: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...p-man-warned-The-Sun-I-cant-stop-killing.html


April 22, 2012 - YouTube account "Rita VanVolkenberg" uploads several videos of LRM, most entitled “Cannibal Serial Killer - Luka Magnotta”. This is several weeks before the actual murder of Jun Lin.

See: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyFA2kJn70_zCnruYxnzc5A


May 12, 2012 – Someone posts on Yahoo “There is a video circulating TOR ( The Deep Web) all I know is it was shot in San Fransisco, I have been trying to find it for weeks.”

Source: http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120515173030AAbc9B7


May 14, 2012 - YouTube account "alexisvaloranreich" uploads a video which consists a single image of a hooded person holding an icepick with a poster of Casablanca in the background. The uploader states: "There is apparently a video circulating around the deep web called " One Lunatic One Ice Pick" Video. Does anyone have a copy of it ?”

See: http://www.youtube.com/user/alexisvaloranreich

Two other accounts "genisismaster" and "adamlemmon" comment on the above video a day later on May 15, 2012, both suggesting they know of the video.

See: http://www.youtube.com/user/genisismaster
See: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK9JM59BAXnTysPyKeDXL0Q/feed

Both accounts have little activity other than these posts. The "genisismaster" account has "favorited" several animal abuse videos, like one where a bunny is fed to a snake.


May 15, 2012 - a poster named "babymaggie11" similarly asks about a "1 lunatic, 1 ice pick" video on OhLookaForum.com

Source: http://www.ohlookaforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17600

The name "babymaggie1" is linked to LRM on other sites, where he appears to have uploaded a photo of himself.

See: http://us.fotolog.com/babymaggie1/56700955/


May 16, 2012 – Someone called "anonymousgirl33" posts a similar video on DailyMotion asking about a "1 Lunatic 1 icepick" video.

Source: http://www.dailymotion.com/anonymousgirl33

Same day, someone called "anonymousgirl4" makes two posts on Psychoforums.com, writing one titled "The 1 Lunatic 1 Ice Pick Video" and saying, among other things, "There is a video of a guy around aged 20 from San Fransisco, he apparently made real snuff films that depict cannabilisim and necrophilia along with the murder".

Source: http://www.psychforums.com/antisocial-personality/topic89464.html

Notice that "San Francisco" is repeatedly misspelled as "San Fransisco" in these anonymous posts about the video before it has been even made.


May 24, 2012 - Last time Jun Lin is seen by friends. Lin Jun parents lose contact with him.

Source: http://metronews.ca/news/canada/249642/magnotta-nabbed-perusing-web-reports-about-himself/


May 25, 2012 - LRM's neighbour in Montreal claims to have seen him arrying box to post office.

Source: http://metronews.ca/news/canada/249642/magnotta-nabbed-perusing-web-reports-about-himself/


May 25, 2012 - The alleged kill video is posted on BestGore.com by Mark Marek, who now claims he posted after it was sent to him by a contributor to the site.

Interestingly, the posting on May 25 states "Very hard to find, the 1 Lunatic 1 Ice Pick Video took the internet by the storm as the most horrific shock video to have been released to date. There are speculations that One Lunatic One Ice Pick may be an actual snuff film..." There's also mention of "San Francisco" and "Russia" as the origins.

This is similar to April 22 and May 15/16 posts (noted above) which also spoke of "rumours" of a "snuff film" that may have been filmed in "San Francisco".

Source: http://www.bestgore.com/beheading/1-lunatic-1-ice-pick-video/


May 26, 2012 – A lawyer in Montana claims to have viewed "1 Lunatic, 1 Icepick" video on BestGore.com and calls the Toronto police about it. Apparently, the police tell him to contact "Crime Stoppers".

Source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/06/05/pol-magnotta-best-gore-police.html


May 26, 2012 - Magnotta flies out of Montreal to France on an Air Transat flight. He sits in row 33 and his bizarre behavior alarms some passengers. LRM is seen "crying" at the back of the plane at some point.

Source: http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1205451--luka-rocco-magnotta-caught-in-berlin-report


May 29, 2012 - A Montreal janitor discovers a suit case containing a human torso in a pile of garbage and discarded furniture on the curb near Place Lucy, LRM's building.

Source: http://www.globaltvedmonton.com/gru...t+in+montreal+trash+bin/6442650312/story.html


May 29, 2012 - A package containing a human foot and a "note" arrives at Conservative Party HQ. A second package, containing a human hand, is discovered at an Ottawa Canada Post warehouse, addressed to the Liberal Party of Canada HQ.

Source: http://www.globaltvedmonton.com/timeline+of+events+body+parts+murder+case/6442651932/story.html


May 29, 2012 - Police investigation focuses on LRM, as video surveillance taken both from LRM's apartment building as well as the local Canada Post mail depot (where the body part packages were mailed) show a "nervous" man matching LRM's description putting garbage at the curb several times, as well as a "nervous" LRM at the Canada Post mail depot.

Source: http://www.lfpress.com/news/canada/2012/06/05/19840541.html


May 30, 2012 - After LRM's apartment (5309 Place Lucy, Apartment 208) is searched, he becomes #1 suspect and a nationwide warrant is issued for his arrest.

Police also confirm that they are aware of the "Bestgore" kill video, and believe it to be authentic.

Source: http://www.globaltvedmonton.com/Pages/Story.aspx?id=6442650854


May 31, 2012 - Police say they have evidence suggesting LRM has left the country, and an international manhunt begins.

Source: www.globaltvedmonton.com/Pages/Story.aspx?id=6442651008


May 31, 2012 – Youtube user “Beavis Butthead” (BB) uploads videos on YouTube claiming LRM is being "framed" by an "insane agent" that he had "fired". Later, BB targets "Kris Sims" of the Toronto Sun News, who ran a story on Toronto Sun News that BB may be LRM.

See: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc37CtjNQHaX1o10AJ0Uoiw?feature=plcp

Source: http://www.torontosun.com/2012/06/01/new-youtube-video-sounds-like-magnotta-expert

However, BB is not LRM, as BB continues to post after LRM was arrested.


June 1, 2012 - The victim is identified as Jun Lin, a 33 year old Chinese exchange student.

Source: http://www.globaltvedmonton.com/bod...student+montreal+police/6442652308/story.html


June 4-5 2012 - LRM seen in France and then arrested in a cybercafe in Berlin.

Source: www.globaltvedmonton.com/suspected+killer+luka+magnotta+arrested+in+germany/6442653682/story.html


June 5, 2012 - Two packages containing a "note" and body parts arrive at two Vancouver schools.

Source: http://www.thespec.com/news/canada/article/738419--montreal-police-say-foot-found-on-street-today


June 6, 2012 - LRM does not object to extradition, and will likely be back in Canada to face trial by the end of June.

Source: http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/0...likely-by-end-of-june-german-prosecutors-say/

 

[Hamsterdance]

I agree with you, Wondergirl; as a former criminal prosecutor (aka District Attorney), and by way of analogy, having prosecuted a number of revolting people for possessing and downloading online child *advertiser censored* (CP), I know from research and studies that without people to consume such stuff online, there is little market for this crime. This crime is perpetuated by the market and demand that exists for it, which in turn fuels more production of online CP. Many CP sites require payment to enter, and these funds are simply channelled back into CP productions and producer's pockets. Accordingly, in Australia (the jurisdiction I am most familiar with) and many other Western states, it is a crime to upload AND download online CP.

In my view, for the reasons mentioned above, there is little if any difference between online CP and snuff films, hence snuff films are illegal and the making available of them ought to be too (if it is not already?).

In relation to the post to which you were replying (sorry for not requoting - still navigating my use of this site), regarding the suggestion that the video in question does not show a murder taking place, I have two points to make:

Firstly, LE has come out and confirmed that a longer, unedited version of the film which was posted online was obtained by LE in which the victim's "chilling screams" could be heard and acts of cannibalism were shown. These two things were not depicted in the video that was circulating on the net, perhaps explaining why many people have asserted there was no murder depicted. Of course, whilst screams alone do not a murder make, the circumstantial evidence of murder being committed on film is overwhelming.

Secondly, I have seen a number of people comment on this and other forums that the film does not show a murder taking place and I am curious to what people think would convince them of a murder taking place? Do we need to see a struggle? Hear screams? From the video it did appear that the victim was either drugged or dead by the time he was stabbed. However, a criminal case is rarely built around one piece of evidence alone, but rather 'cobbled together' from bits and pieces of evidence which, taken as a whole, construct the prosecution case. Moreover, the prosecutors in this case are already at an enormous advantage having such strong video evidence - circumstantial at worst; direct at best - in their evidence cache from the start. In addition, they have actions consistent with consciousness of guilt (LRM fleeing the country 1-2 days after the alleged crime and evading LEA; wearing a wig and using aliases in the process) and they also have a picture of the suspect in the film in question that very closely resembles many other pictures of the suspect which had been uploaded to the internet under LRM-associated aliases (the picture of LRM in one of the animal torture videos that he allegedly posted is almost identical to the frame shot from the murder video - same hair (wig?), same facial profile, and also wearing a hoodie...

Lastly, the argument that we should be allowed to decide for ourselves what we watch and don't watch and that all censorship is bad fails to take account of the fact that the freedoms of speech, expression, association etc, are not limitless; they must necessarily be restricted to the extent that my exercise of my rights does not impinge upon other rights, eg I cannot claim the right to free speech where my speech incites race hate violence, for eg. I agree that limits ought to be placed on what we can consume, technologically-speaking, but I also am very aware of the slippery slope that censorship can become, and of course there are attendant dangers with it. But the same argument was made many years ago in relation to vehicle seat-belts (ie that making it compulsory to wear them in Australia was impinging on one's individual right to make decisions about what one does), and yet most people today are glad that by enforcing the public to wear seatbelts, that protects not only the wearer but others in the seatbelt-wearer's vicinity too, should they have an accident.

WHOA - that was a long post!

And very well written. Thank-you and WELCOME!!
:welcome:

 

[FrayedKnot]

I have seen photos of him with a cross.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mpOOG1aGvyM/T85QZo_Y73I/AAAAAAAAONs/cgg2cAGVHXE/s1600/Luka+Magnotta.JPG


Which I thought was odd considering Newman, IMO, is a Jewish name. I also remember reading reference to Satanism but sorry don't have a link and honestly there has been so much posted about him that hard to know what's true or fake.

IDK about Newman being a Jewish name. There is a Cardinal Newman (Catholic) HS in FL. I have several friends who went there.

But Paul Newman was half Jewish, so maybe it's like Miller, Green, Stone etc.

Interesting point though, given the role religion sometimes plays in the lives of the creepier killers. Wonder what we could find out about that?

 

[james62]

Sorry to requote myself.

If the posts on ripoffreport and http://www.scaminformer.com/scam-rep...es-c78766.html (found by james62) are by Luka Magnotta could these be used as evidence against him? If they are proven to be him by IP address or other means.

These posts were on the day of the murder. The reply comment on the ripoffreport was on the 25th May by Tony Luciforia also says "future serial killer" Surely if these are proven to be by him by LE, then this can be used as evidence.

I'm hoping LE is aware of these posts, as i'm sure they are.

My thoughts exactly dan.

Generally I think LE will have their internet forensics dept who will scour the net and get everything, but I wonder... I think these posts are pretty significant. It reinforces the idea of premeditation.

 

[musician]

Never seen his sleepwalking mentioned yet ...

http://estrip.org/articles/read/lukamagnotta/49153/Sleep-Walking.html

I know - weird, huh? I would not be surprised if when this matter goes to trial, his defence team try using this as evidence he would sleepwalk and not be conscious at the time of what he was doing. But that would be very difficult to reconcile with the fact he then posted the body parts (presumably he had to be conscious when doing that).

 

[prima.facie]

On the estrip.org site...
while a plagiarized post was found....i wouldnt completely dismiss everything written as false...i think in many of his ramblings, there is a bit of truth mixed in with fantasy...
obviously, the dude has issues and many of the posts reveal issues or reveal things that could cause issues....

im sure he is a criminologists dream come true.....

 

[~n/t~]

and another snip:

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/06/07/magnotta-linked-to-hollywood-sign-body-parts

:rocker: