ARUBA - Robyn Gardner, 35, Maryland woman missing in Aruba, 2 Aug 2011 - # 6

[katydid23]

It's quite possible, but without a body, and given his explanation for why he included her in his travel insurance policy, there isn't much to support the theory.

But if she did die in a rip tide, according to the local fisherman, she would have turned up. So the fact that there is no body does not add up.

And I have never heard of being forced to buy travel insurance, as in a life insurance policy, for one's traveling mate. Somehow I doubt that is exactly true.

 

[neesaki]

Debating the issues is good. I hardly think you need the "patched together with silicone and botox,35 year old divorcee" description to make your point. We get IT! ....and frankly how does her being a divorcee relate to her not being a candidate for human trafficking? Like no one ever taken for human trafficking was divorced because even deviants have their " standards".

....and I said there were other reasons for taking women other than "simple sex" --it is still about the sex--Sexual preferences run the gamut though, and I doubt this industry restricts it to the "biblical" sense.

I miss "Just -a -Guy":sigh:!!!!

I totally agree. To me those issues just don't seem relevant whatsoever.

BTW, I miss Just-a-Guy too .

 

[RR0004]

I don't know. Maybe it's harder to hold someone underwater while you are wearing fins???? I would think the reason he wore sneakers is that the water is very rocky there, no smooth sandy bottom and jagged rocks getting into the water at the point he claims they entered. No way would RG have been able to get into the water in bare feet after having a couple of drinks. In the videos RG is wearing wedge style high shoes, not beach wear.

I think GG picked the wrong beach for his snorkel story about her drowning. I have been out in a private fishing boat and the locals know all about the currents, what currents will bring something out to sea and what currents will return items to the shore. The Arubans are still searching because if she went in where he said she did.....they would have found something by now. It's not as if she were a mile out when they were snorkeling.

One big ole hole in his story is that GG grabbed RG's leg to tell her to turn around because the sea suddenly became too rough and he had to swim for his life. If this were true he would have removed his sneakers and he never would have ended up exactly where they went in because when the current gets strong you have to swim parallel to the beach until you can get in to shore. If this were true and he did this he would have been right at the Rum Runner's Cafe by the time he was ready to exit the water. His story leads us to believe he just swam right in to shore in a strong current. According to Aruba there were no strong currents that day and no storms out at sea to make the water rough.

He's a good talker and I can see how he could talk someone into doing something they really did not want to do. I also see him holding back on his "flash point". I would not want to be around him when he is angry. jmo

Thanks, LC. The only reason I can think of him wearing sneakers was because of the rocks. To be honest, I have never seen anyone wear sneakers snorkeling. I haven't even seen them wear water shoes. You own a mask and no fins? ITA about the area. There are so many beautiful places to snorkel and chill on a beach. That area would be the last place I would choose.

 

[neesaki]

Then why was GG able to return to the exact same location that he entered the water in? If he was caught in a riptide, as he says, then he would not be able to swim back in, but would have to swim parallel until he could get past the riptide. I grew up swimming in Santa Cruz and was caught in many riptides myself. imoo

Also,Robyn had NEVER snorkeled before and very rarely even swam. So why would this guy just cut and run, and never look back? He said on Geraldo this morning that he never even called out to her or called her name, he just swam to shore.

My he must be a super strong swimmer too, I mean to be able to swim through such strong currents and with those heavy sneakers on too. Wow! :waitasec:

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

-respectfully snipped by me-

Dushi imo he did not suggest Robyn's disappearance was due to human trafficking.
Giordano was obviously very upset both with Aruban law enforcement as well as with the media, and if he did not harm Robyn, then him feeling that way is understandable. He spent 4 months in jail and his life has been ruined.

At the end of the interview he lashes out at Aruba, but imo not to suggest cocaine or human trafficking caused Robyn to disappear, he clearly said she disappeared on his watch. He was being fed up, look at the way he talked to the host, his anger was clear.

I did find his explanation about the insurance very reasonable.IMO

Micheline and JeannaT

I just got caught up on GG's interview and I have to agree with both of you. For a long time now I had begun to consider GG's account may in fact be true.
I had problems with the insurance policy and his actions at the airport (as were reported).
His interview cleared up a great many questions brought on by faulty reporting.

I do not think he was arrogant or rude in that interview, rather a man "pissed off" about being held for 4 months , constantly interrogated w/ explanations for all of the false reports out there, but unable to do a damn thing about it ----UNTIL NOW--the GMA interview was like a release valve, and he wanted to finally clear up so many mistruths that were allowed to collect.

If he had murdered Robyn, I feel he would have been very meek, like trying to convince the public that he was just an innocent victim. You don't repeat "a lie" 50 times without real breaks in continuity. Just look at the "many" witness accounts in the Holly Bobo story.

Casey Anthony was guilty as sin--MOO--and I have absolutely no respect for Jose Baez because of his actions during this case. In this instance he may actually have an innocent man.

The only statement that bothered me was thinking he had mentioned the Human Trafficking as a "possibility". After viewing the footage myself , I agree with Micheline's explanation . He is very bitter toward the Aruban authorities. I also wonder how the Aruba authorities can make a statement like" his story is completely false" , when they have not been able to prove it did not happen exactly as he said it did in 4 months of interrogations.

 

[otto]

But if she did die in a rip tide, according to the local fisherman, she would have turned up. So the fact that there is no body does not add up.

And I have never heard of being forced to buy travel insurance, as in a life insurance policy, for one's traveling mate. Somehow I doubt that is exactly true.

I think we all would like to know what really happened here and with Ms Holloway ... for such a small Island where bodies are expected to float to shore, it sure is difficult to find missing people.

 

[RR0004]

Regarding the insurance policy, Giordano said he took additional insurance to make sure his boys would be taken care of in the event something happened to him. If that was the case, were his sons the beneficiaries on this policy? I don't recall they were.

I'd want to check out the other policies he's taken before traveling. If the guy's so worried about providing for his kids, how much was his good 'ole regular life insurance policy? I would imagine that would have covered him and provided for them regardless of where he "died". Or does he believe only bad things happen while on vacation?

 

[otto]

I'd want to check out the other policies he's taken before traveling. If the guy's so worried about providing for his kids, how much was his good 'ole regular life insurance policy? I would imagine that would have covered him and provided for them regardless of where he "died". Or does he believe only bad things happen while on vacation?

Maybe his regular life insurance policy didn't cover possible additional medical expenses incurred in foreign countries. For example, did his regular life insurance cover a possible airlift home in the event of injury or illness? There's probably a good reason why he, and many others, purchase travel insurance in addition to regular life insurance. It suggests that travelers are not expecting anyone to die, but want insurance coverage for other potential emergencies and associated costs.

 

[MaryAnn]

It's quite possible, but without a body, and given his explanation for why he included her in his travel insurance policy, there isn't much to support the theory.

Common sense supports the theory!!

 

[RR0004]

Ok, I respect your opinion. I just don't agree. IMO, I can't see how this can be viewed as just an everyday normal business transaction; so it doesn't make sense for GG to attempt to portray or try to come across as some kind of "forceful businessman", as though it were just any other day? Unless, of course his "business" is getting rid of or selling women. That approach doesn't make sense to me, again, JMO.

Also, I detect a lot of hostility, anger and resentment in his eyes, his voice and his body language. Plus, he's evasive because he refuses to answer her direct question about what happened to Robyn. Not only that, at the end, he brings up the subject of sex trafficking. Now where did that come from? That was never in his original story, the one his attorney's claimed that he "stuck with" the entire time. He claimed she drowned while snorkeling. Over, and over, and over again. So, again, what is this sex trafficking thing all about?

IMO, this man is nothing but a liar, and he has absolutely no regrets or remorse, other, than of course, for himself because he was so terribly mistreated and inconvenienced by being held in Aruban prison for four months. Poor, poor, Gary, Boo Hoo, Hoo...
Again, it's all JMO.

I'd like to see someone question him about the complaints the other women made.

 

[RR0004]

Robyn Gardner was not a professional model ... not by any stretch of the imagination.

Ah, since when do we attack (even by insinuation) the victim?

 

[RR0004]

I just don't understand the "human trafficking" angle. Robyn is/was a 35 year old divorcee that was patched together with silicon and botox. Is there a market for women like that in the US, and, if so, what soft of profit is there? If there's no market in the US, why would there be a market elsewhere? Who pays big money for 35 year old plastic divorcees that swim off the coast of Aruba?

I get your point and don't believe it was any such thing...but can we please be a little kinder when talking about Robyn...the victim?

 

[LambChop]

My he must be a super strong swimmer too, I mean to be able to swim through such strong currents and with those heavy sneakers on too. Wow! :waitasec:

Still trying to figure out if the current was so strong how did he keep his hairpiece perfectly in place???????

 

[RR0004]

My he must be a super strong swimmer too, I mean to be able to swim through such strong currents and with those heavy sneakers on too. Wow! :waitasec:

...and keep his hair on?!

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

Other womens complaints have nothing to do with this case.

He can be a liar, a pervert, a scam artist, a pornographer, and generally an unlikable jerk---That doesn't make him a murderer.

 

[RR0004]

Still trying to figure out if the current was so strong how did he keep his hairpiece perfectly in place???????

Oh my, LC we have been definitely been hanging out together for too long. lol

 

[RR0004]

Other womens complaints have nothing to do with this case.

He can be a liar, a pervert, a scam artist, a pornographer, and generally an unlikable jerk---That doesn't make him a murderer.

Would just like to see his reaction...'cause I think this guy doesn't particularly like women the same way most men (I hope) like women.

 

[otto]

Common sense supports the theory!!

Common sense also dictates that if she did not drown and drift into the ocean, she is on the Island. There have been extensive searches in areas within the time/travel radius of the beach, and she cannot be found. It's a small Island ... so if not the ocean, where did she go?

 

[RR0004]

Maybe his regular life insurance policy didn't cover possible additional medical expenses incurred in foreign countries. For example, did his regular life insurance cover a possible airlift home in the event of injury or illness? There's probably a good reason why he, and many others, purchase travel insurance in addition to regular life insurance. It suggests that travelers are not expecting anyone to die, but want insurance coverage for other potential emergencies and associated costs.

I sell travel insurance and know exactly why they buy it. I have had some pretty high-end clients who have never asked for 1.5 million in a death benefit payout. Anyway, they're his words...he was looking out for his kids. So how much personal life insurance does he have?

 

[RR0004]

ITA with LC's theory...he dumped her somewhere else.