AUS - Khandalyce Kiara Pearce (Wynarka) and mum Karlie Pearce-Stevenson (Belanglo) #7

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Bohemian said:
Just had a thought (yeah, I know, amazing right? :) )

Let's say, hypothetically, an acquaintance of a future alleged murder victim had an accident while carrying a large amount of cash/drugs for a dealer. As police/emergency services would be swarming all over the place within a short amount of time, and they themselves were relatively uninjured, the mule/buyer decides to hide the drugs/money (which they know would be seen as highly incriminating evidence in any future trial) somewhere close to the crash site, or they could see it as an opportunity to retrieve money/drugs for themselves at a time to be determined.

Dealer doesn't care about circumstances and just wants cash/drugs returned, 'or else'. Unfortunately, by this time drugs have been consumed, sold on, or can't be retrieved, or mule/buyer has spent or wants to keep the cash for themselves. So they look for someone who is a convenient patsy; possibly someone that can be seen as relatively 'close' to them, who may have even gone to the crash site to retrieve items, been following them at the time of the accident in another car, or has retrieved items from the police on their behalf.

Mule/buyer convinces patsy to leave for another life, allegedly murders them and then proceeds to tie up any loose ends *sigh*. Then patsy et al's identities are used to defraud them (and others) to either start a moneymaking venture of their own, and/or to repay dealer (with considerable interest) and as a sweetener for themselves and their 'associates'. That is, until it looks like the jig is up and they scarper to safer climes.

As I said, just a thought and, yes, I even scare myself with just how devious I could be if I wasn't of good character or if I lacked empathy for anyone but myself.

Now...to the Blog Cave, Alfred...
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Thankyou Makara, this thread seems to have gone a little off track and getting really confusing !
 
At what point does the prosecutions brief of evidence become public domain? Does it get filed with the court and at the same time handed to the defence (and therefore is publicly available - for a fee)

Or do we await another court date?


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Wolfinator said:
At what point does the prosecutions brief of evidence become public domain? Does it get filed with the court and at the same time handed to the defence (and therefore is publicly available - for a fee)

Or do we await another court date?


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Hmmm. I have no idea. I can't imagine it would be available to the public until the case has run though, given the nature of some of the evidence in the brief:

"The police send a brief of evidence to the ODPP. A brief can include the statements of the witnesses, the charges that have been laid, bail documents, results of forensic pathology tests (blood and hair samples, for example), results of medical examinations, photographs of the crime scene and other relevant material found during the police investigation. Some or all of these may be tendered to the Court during a trial." (BBM).

http://www.odpp.nsw.gov.au/victims-witnesses/the-prosecution-process
 
Makara said:
Brainstorming theories is encouraged, but must be based on fact. For our purposes, "fact" refers to information published in the mainstream media (MSM) or other acceptable sources, such as academic and professional publications.
When you state something as "fact", you must back it up with a link to an approved source.
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I understand, Makara. My post wasn't meant to be seen as fact which is why I used 'hypothetically' rather than 'theoretically'. Please don't think it's my intention to be argumentative, or challenge you as a moderator.

This case seems to be a minefield at the moment due to sub judice, identity of alleged suspects, information gaps and the inconsistency of MSM reports, some being refuted by investigators and others let stand, so facts seem to be hard to come by; other than the basic ones.

At the moment we only know who; allegedly the one person charged, DJH, what; alleged murder of Karlie and Khandalyce, when; December 2008-January 2009, where; unknown, except the locations where Karlie's and Khandalyce's remains were discovered, but not how; which can only be known by investigators, or why, which is a big question that always seems to hang in the air.

The same six questions could be asked in relation to the identity theft and fraud but I think they're going to bring us back around to the same question; why were Karlie and Khandalyce allegedly murdered by DJH?
 
Bohemian said:
I understand, Makara. My post wasn't meant to be seen as fact which is why I used 'hypothetically' rather than 'theoretically'. Please don't think it's my intention to be argumentative, or challenge you as a moderator.

This case seems to be a minefield at the moment due to sub judice, identity of alleged suspects, information gaps and the inconsistency of MSM reports, some being refuted by investigators and others let stand, so facts seem to be hard to come by; other than the basic ones.

At the moment we only know who; allegedly the one person charged, DJH, what; alleged murder of Karlie and Khandalyce, when; December 2008-January 2009, where; unknown, except the locations where Karlie's and Khandalyce's remains were discovered, but not how; which can only be known by investigators, or why, which is a big question that always seems to hang in the air.

The same six questions could be asked in relation to the identity theft and fraud but I think they're going to bring us back around to the same question; why were Karlie and Khandalyce allegedly murdered by DJH?
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Agree Bohemian. Sadly, I think it will be down to drugs. Not KPS necessarily.
But him and possibly HP.. ....IMO..... And the nastiest of drugs , that turns son against father, husband against wife, mate against mate - ice.
 
Bohemian said:
I understand, Makara. My post wasn't meant to be seen as fact which is why I used 'hypothetically' rather than 'theoretically'. Please don't think it's my intention to be argumentative, or challenge you as a moderator.

This case seems to be a minefield at the moment due to sub judice, identity of alleged suspects, information gaps and the inconsistency of MSM reports, some being refuted by investigators and others let stand, so facts seem to be hard to come by; other than the basic ones.

At the moment we only know who; allegedly the one person charged, DJH, what; alleged murder of Karlie and Khandalyce, when; December 2008-January 2009, where; unknown, except the locations where Karlie's and Khandalyce's remains were discovered, but not how; which can only be known by investigators, or why, which is a big question that always seems to hang in the air.

The same six questions could be asked in relation to the identity theft and fraud but I think they're going to bring us back around to the same question; why were Karlie and Khandalyce allegedly murdered by DJH?
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Yes, there are rules in this case that must be adhered to on this thread, be they sub judice or Websleuths' rules, everyone is expected to abide by them. Constantly going off topic on conspiracy theories detracts from the purpose of this thread. It seems that some people are more interested in creating a good story rather than sticking with the facts in this case. It's important to remember that this is not entertainment and it should be kept in mind that a young woman and her gorgeous, innocent child were murdered.
 
MOD ALERT: This thread will be closed until there is any further information from police or MSM.
 
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In this time of sorrow, Karlie's and Khandalyce's parents and grandparents want to express their and their family's gratitude for the compassion shown by those who have travelled the emotional rollercoaster I have outlined, which they also now endure.
Karlie and Khandalyce were loved. They were missed. Their family lived with the hope they would one day return.
Karlie's and Khandalyce's next-of-kin want especially to thank the police and forensic experts who have tirelessly pursued justice for them.
They want the person or persons responsible for these most heinous crimes called to account.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-...k-to-alice-springs/6950728?WT.ac=statenews_nt
 
Murder victim Khandalyce Pearce to rest in peace with her slain mother Karlie after emotional trip home

FOR months she was known only as the child in the suitcase — now tiny murder victim Khandalyce Pearce will finally be laid to rest with dignity alongside her slain mother.

A small white casket containing the remains of the toddler will be taken to Alice Springs in coming days before she is buried alongside her mother Karlie Pearce — after their murders were revealed almost eight years after they died.

While their family is relieved they will rest together for eternity, they are determined to see those responsible for the vile murders to be brought to justice.

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http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...613720145?sv=1967f04fe5272a55cec251dc819ae56c
 
It may be timely to revisit the initial police video announcing the identification of Karlie and Khandalyce. I note that early in the video it is stated that Karlie left Alice Springs in 2008, and as time went by, contact with/from Karlie became less. However, the police have requested the movements of Karlie and Khandalyce from the time of Khandalyce's birth in 2006 through to 2008.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/video...le-girl-found-in-suitcase-has-been-identified
 
“They in addition desire respect for their right to silence — a silence intended to allow the wheels of justice to turn unimpeded,” he said.

“They ask, however, that no matter the rumour, innuendo and conjecture that all remember that a mother and her child were needlessly and callously killed.”

“It is time for Khandalyce, and her mother, Karlie to go home. To be reunited as one in each other’s arms. To rest in peace for eternity.”


http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...613720145?sv=1967f04fe5272a55cec251dc819ae56c


:candle: :candle:

:rose: :rose:
 
On ABC news they said that the detectives paid for the flowers on top of the casket.....bless them :tyou:
 
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