GUILTY Australia - Andrew, 45, Rose, 44, & Chantelle Rowe, 16, slain, Kapunda, 8 Nov 2010 #4

[seekingjustice**]

I don't know how many knife wounds it would take to kill a person, I guess it all comes down to the knife (size sharpness etc) could you kill someone in one or two stabs? I guess if you hit the right place?
If he did hit a critical spot, how long until death?

Ugh.. What a terrible crime.

Agreed and if the weapon was some type of machette or sword then it would really only take one big swing to take someones head off..

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Hundreds attend Rowe family funeral in Kapunda

CHRISTOPHER Rowe has released three white doves in a heartbreaking tribute to the parents and sister he lost in the Kapunda murders. An emotional Christopher did not speak, but the grief of the funeral for Andrew, Rose and Chantelle Rowe, overcame several people among an estimated 600 mourners.
Some required medical attention in the warm conditions and at least one young woman fainted.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...-murdered-family/story-e6frea83-1225961392114

 

[midsommer]

The live TV coverage made the funeral look more like a circus - it was not a very respectful event IMO

There were some genuine mourners (well obviously) but lots of groups of giggling girls and shoulder-pushing young boys, grinning and have a wow of a time.

I think it was undignified.

Perhaps a private funeral would have been more respectful.

 

[singers]

Agreed and if the weapon was some type of machette or sword then it would really only take one big swing to take someones head off..

Here in singapore when you buy a chicken to roast in the shops, they come with theirs heads on. (gross I know) anyway I have a knife and to chop the head off can be hard to get through the neck, maybe my knife is not so great, but I think to do damage to a body the knife would have to be really sharp and you would have to use a fair bit of force.

 

[seekingjustice**]

BBM - that would explain the posing that was initially alleged.

RIP Andrew, Rose and Chantelle

 

[singers]

Interesting theory, a few things

If the parents were out until midnight, where were they and who were they with? They must have been somewhere and with someone.

Acting alone, there were reports early on fb of people suggesting 2 names. So could be a possibility, although they only found 1 unknown dna. The other person would have left no prints and blood.

 

[midsommer]

Ok here goes... The source is 100% verifyable. etc

Thanks Aimeli.
That makes sense of a few bits of info that have been floating about.
That someone hid in a cupboard has been mentioned, but I had read in was CR. Makes more sense if it was the killer.
I had also read that the parents got home after CR was killed, and that makes sense to me too. It explains why the police put so much emphasis on what their movements were that day and evening.

I wonder why he didn't leave after killing CR though?
Maybe he intended to and the parents arrived home earlier than he expected.
Hearing them at the door, maybe he hid in the cupboard, hoping to slip away.

 

[midsommer]

Interesting theory, a few things

If the parents were out until midnight, where were they and who were they with? They must have been somewhere and with someone.

Acting alone, there were reports early on fb of people suggesting 2 names. So could be a possibility, although they only found 1 unknown dna. The other person would have left no prints and blood.

If they were at the pokies nobody would necessarily have noticed them.

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[Benny08]

What is pokies? Casino?

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Guys, can we not quote the post until we hear back from the mods, and can you edit it out of your questions about it? Makes more work for them if they need to take it down later, just put in 'Aimeli regarding your post' instead...thanks x

 

[midsommer]

Sorry but that does not make a lot of sense.
Victims were home for dinner,there has been no mention that they went out after that.

The report only said they had a roast chicken for dinner.
<modsnip>it is quite possible they went out after dinner, returning after the pub closed at midnight.

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[midsommer]

Did I read defaced? Is that what it sounds like? :waitasec:

What is pokies? Casino?

Ah, sorry, poker machines or one armed bandits, some call them fruit machines.

Here we call them pokies and addiction is a very serious social issue.

 

[midsommer]

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Remorse could lead him to wash her body and put her to bed.

Explains why the police say the killer was in the house for over an hour.

The parents may have been colateral damge, arriving home earlier that expected and giving him no option but to fight his way out?

 

[midsommer]

Here's another theory to throw out there.
Would the parents have gone out and played the pokies seperately??
Maybe one of the other family members were dropped off in that white tray back???
Perhaps accused was in the house earlier?
I know, I know just another theory to add to the many : )

It's avery good idea.

In Australia it is estimated that these days as many crimes are cause by pokie addiction as are caused by drug addicition.

That comment is not meant to relate to the murder, but to indicate what a serious social problem pokie addiction has become.

Many pokie addicts are very embarassed by their addiction and go to great lengths to hide it from other family members, friends and employers.

I really have no idea where I am going with this theory, other than to say that it may explain why tracing the movements of the adult Rowes was so difficult over the weekend of the murder.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Cheers guys for editing all those!! It is an interesting difference regarding when things may have happened isn't it? What it makes me wonder is why he would have felt he needed to murder them too? Did the car pull in before he had time to leave the house perhaps, and he didn't have time to leave without them seeing him?

 

[Curiousasacat]

Cheers guys for editing all those!! It is an interesting difference regarding when things may have happened isn't it? What it makes me wonder is why he would have felt he needed to murder them too? Did the car pull in before he had time to leave the house perhaps, and he didn't have time to leave without them seeing him?

I can't understand re the parents either.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

^ doesn't make sense does it? If there was a romantic dispute Chantelle makes some sense I guess....but not the parents too, the only reason I can think of is that they caught him or were about to and he did that to protect himself from final justice.

ETA....what about, if he felt like her parents had never approved of him and he partly blamed them for the fact that he and Chantelle were not together, could he have got the impression from them that they thought he wasn't good enough for their daughter, or they though she should keep her distance somewhat?

 

[midsommer]

Cheers guys for editing all those!! It is an interesting difference regarding when things may have happened isn't it? What it makes me wonder is why he would have felt he needed to murder them too? Did the car pull in before he had time to leave the house perhaps, and he didn't have time to leave without them seeing him?

That would seem the most likely explanation and may also explain the physical problem of him not seeming strong enough to overpower 3 people at the same time.

 

[midsommer]

If it is true that he hid in a cupboard, he may have done that when he heard the car pull up.

Maybe he hoped to sneak out but was found or accidentally gave himself away.

Realising they knew him, he attacked them.

It may also be that the door the police took away was the cupboard door.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Agree, there is no way he was able to fight off three at once, just isn't possible.