GUILTY Australia - Chloe Valentine, 4, tortured to death, Ingle Farm, SA, 20 Jan 2012

DNA Solves
DNA Solves
DNA Solves
Sorry Ausgirl. No offense intended to the people that manage their money well. But, to me, the 'food stamp' system that they have in the US would help stamp out some of the abuse by the people that do abuse the system, while still assisting those that need the system. They still give a smaller allowance of $$ for things like utility bills and car expenses, but it reduces the amount of money that does not get used for essentials and instead gets used for grog and drugs by those that do that.

Maybe it should be put in place for the people that are prone to abusing the system .. but not everybody.

To me, there needs to be some middle ground here. None of us likes that people like Chloe's mother misused pretty much all of her funds, to the detriment of her child.

Obviously it is not the total answer ... but it may help some kids to get fed better.

No need for sorry, it wasn't you I was ranting at, rather the general sort of unthinking blah that happens.

I would just die of cringe, if I was forced to hand over food stamps at the supermarket. It's incredibly hard on the self-esteem to be unable to work, on a fixed income to begin with. To hell with food stamps, I reckon. I *payed* my taxes, all those years - I would hate to be treated like a basket case who can't be trusted with cash! But then, I abuse neither children nor drugs. And so what if I want a pack of smokes - tough titties, that's my business and nobody else's.

So yes, I agree, a voucher system would not work for everyone's best interests. Such a system for say, convicted drug users *might* be affective, but looking at how that works in America, people sell their food stamps for drug money and neglect their kids anyway... and where drugs are concerned, a lack of cash to buy them with = more burglaries/muggings/robberies, more prostitution, etc.

Perhaps compulsory drug testing + clean results or you lose your kids might help protect littlies better.. plus, a FACS overhaul. Plus, them not hiring idiots. That'd be some real progress for the kiddies. I reckon.
 
No need for sorry, it wasn't you I was ranting at, rather the general sort of unthinking blah that happens.

I would just die of cringe, if I was forced to hand over food stamps at the supermarket. It's incredibly hard on the self-esteem to be unable to work, on a fixed income to begin with. To hell with food stamps, I reckon. I *payed* my taxes, all those years - I would hate to be treated like a basket case who can't be trusted with cash! But then, I abuse neither children nor drugs. And so what if I want a pack of smokes - tough titties, that's my business and nobody else's.

So yes, I agree, a voucher system would not work for everyone's best interests. Such a system for say, convicted drug users *might* be affective, but looking at how that works in America, people sell their food stamps for drug money and neglect their kids anyway... and where drugs are concerned, a lack of cash to buy them with = more burglaries/muggings/robberies, more prostitution, etc.

Perhaps compulsory drug testing + clean results or you lose your kids might help protect littlies better.. plus, a FACS overhaul. Plus, them not hiring idiots. That'd be some real progress for the kiddies. I reckon.

BBM: Compulsory and random drug testing seems to apply in a lot of jobs, why not the extremely important job of a (reported, delinquent) parent/carer too?

And I agree about the FACS overhaul. These are front-line jobs, dealing with some of the worst offenders in society ... be ready for it people, be trained for it, recognise the extreme cases and have specialised teams to deal with them. What the heck is the point in having a quick peek when decent people report these cases over and over and over again? Then cleaning up the rubbish and moving on?

And if it is too much, too stressful, too much red tape, too whatever .. then don't take the job, move on and get yourself a job in private practise where you can take a case or refuse it.

The good news is that Families SA is recruiting 360 more workers by the end of 2015. Though it seems that they will be mostly carers to help the already-taxed carer aspect, from what I can tell.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...es-sa-data-shows/story-e6frea83-1226661454556
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-11/state-care-changes-to-save-sa-2420-million-annually/4745266


(And I agree with what you say about on-selling food stamps for less than their worth, and the cringe-value of decent people in using them, Ausgirl. There just has to be a way to limit the system abuse by repeat offenders, who then go on and request further assistance from the Salvos ... and get it.)
 
This was the infrastructure designed to protect Chloe. She and those responsible for her were part of the Safe Babies Program.

http://www.iecsewc2013.net.au/presentations/Sue-Macdonald.pdf

Waterford said Families SA received its last notification about Chloe on 11 June, 2011, about six months before her death.

Staff visited the house and observed "things were very positive" and the interaction between mother and daughter was very good.

As happens whenever a death occurs in a case involving Families SA, the independent Child Death and Serious Injury Committee will review the case and report to the relevant minister.

Waterford said Polkinghorne and Chloe were referred to the Safe Babies Program in 2007 and worked with the program for three years.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/03/welfare-workers-received-complaints-before-four-year-olds-motorbike-death
 
Confronting and appalling - Chloe Valentine’s life was one long hell

SEAN Fewster

September 27, 2014 12:03PM


HAVING covered the state’s courts for the past 12 years, I’m spoiled for choice when it comes to depressing, horrific, shocking and unsettling stories.

Even so, I’ve no hesitation in admitting the Chloe Valentine inquest is one of the most — if not the most — confronting and appalling cases I’ve ever encountered.

Every time I thought State Coroner Mark Johns’ team had drilled to the very bottom of this depravity, over the past week, I discovered there was no ground floor in Chloe’s personal hell.

Her very first sound — that first precious cry we parents ache to hear — was greeted by her mother, Ashlee Polkinghorne, with “shush, you *****” and “I can’t wait to get pissed”.

Television, vomit-stained clothing and dirt were her constant companions because Polkinghorne, was too busy getting high on meth on the kitchen

As a journalist I wonder how much further we can sink — how much more inept and incompetent this can get — but, as a parent, I really don’t want to know.

http://www.news.com.au/national/sou...as-one-long-hell/story-fnii5yv4-1227072085704
 
This was the infrastructure designed to protect Chloe. She and those responsible for her were part of the Safe Babies Program.

http://www.iecsewc2013.net.au/presentations/Sue-Macdonald.pdf

Just to add to your post, possum, this link outlines the options open to Families SA when dealing with the protection of children. There is definitely an appropriate framework in place. It just seems that it is not fully utilised ... definitely not in Chloe's case ... and who knows how many other cases.

Investigation and Assessment orders
Care and Protection Orders
Custody Or Guardianship Orders
Supervision Orders
Guardianship of the Minister until 18 years
Other Person Custody and Guardianship
Youth Court Orders

http://www.families.sa.gov.au/pages/outofhomecare/OrdersAuthorities/?reFlag=1
 
In an emotional morning of evidence, Krystal Lee Benyk today outlined her efforts to love, care for and protect Chloe from birth to her death.

She recalled cleaning vomit that had caked under the child’s chin, washing her “filthy and black” hair and playing with her.
She said she would have Chloe in her care for five weeks at a time while Ashlee Polkinghorne disappeared and refused to answer her phone.

Ms Benyk said those efforts went unassisted by Families SA despite her repeated calls to report the abuse perpetrated by Polkinghorne.


http://www.news.com.au/national/sou...raph.com.au&int_campaign=News&int_content=AR2

There is a recording of Ashlee Polkinghorne speaking about her 'child care routine', I could barely understand her.
 
http://www.news.com.au/national/sou...raph.com.au&int_campaign=News&int_content=AR2

There is a recording of Ashlee Polkinghorne speaking about her 'child care routine', I could barely understand her.

RSBM

OMG … well, obviously a great mother. No problems there! :thud:

"Yeah, so I like got paro the other night and I always make sure there is someone sober here .. like X was here and she wasn’t paro .. and Y was here and she wasn’t paro. And I just put Chloe in her rocker and like prop her bottle up. And like Tom is really good with her when he is on speed .. like picks her up, and holds her, and like does stuff with her. And I always make sure I feed her and stuff, ya know, like .. cos it's like the mother instinct."
 
I am completely stunned the social workers knew she had a drug problem, knew she couldn't parent on drugs, but expected she would make arrangements to leave Chloe with someone sober. There's no logic in that! Could they not see that drugs were her priority over Chloe?
 
Sean Fewster @SeanFewster · 5h

The #ChloeValentine inquest has resumed. There will be three witnesses today, not two. @theTiser

1st witness is Kelly Francou, continuing her evidence from Friday afternoon. @theTiser

Francou is being asked about a September 07 interview with Ashlee Polkinghorne, #ChloeValentine's mother.

Notes of that meeting record Polkinghorne as being slow of speech; Francou doesn't recall her that way. #ChloeValentine

Francou: I didn't have any concern that she was actively taking drugs that day. #ChloeValentine

Francou: If I thought she was substance affected, I would have removed #ChloeValentine on the spot.

Francou: I had seen a lot of parents actively using. Coroner: Might she have been coming down? Francou: I don't think so. #ChloeValentine
 
Sean Fewster @SeanFewster · 5h

Francou: #ChloeValentine's mother lied about drug use until I threatened to have her urine tested. She broke down as asked for our help.

Francou: That suggested to me she had previously used drugs and they would show up, not that she'd used that day. #ChloeValentine

Coroner: You actually had no idea at all. You based it on your loose observations of people who were drug affected. #ChloeValentine

Coroner: You had no idea whatsoever how much #ChloeValentine's mother knew about drug testing and how to fool it.

Coroner: You seem to have exercised your discretion very much in the optimistic hope #ChloeValentine's mum would do the right thing.

Francou praised #ChloeValentine's mum for her honesty, felt she had "turned a corner" by admitting to drug use.

Coroner: You offered the inducement that you wouldn't take #ChloeValentine away if her mum was honest.



Coroner: You had no reason to expect that the next words she uttered wouldn't be a lie. Why on earth did you perceive she deserved praise?
 
Sean Fewster @SeanFewster · 5h

Child & Youth Health tried to check on #ChloeValentine 10 times. Succeeded only twice. Families SA found this encouraging.

Q: You knew #ChloeValentine's mum lied to your face. Why not set up regular drug testing? Francou: I'm not entirely sure.

Polkinghorne volunteered to be drug tested. Francou told her it wasn't necessary, did not want to be punitive with her.

Francou: I've never run a voluntary drug testing program on a parent, and nor have the staff I supervise. #ChloeValentine

Coroner: The real reason you didn't take her up on her offer was because you had no idea how to implement it. She was calling your bluff.

Coroner: It was never seriously going to happen.

Coroner: The fact is you just didn't want to because it was too difficult. Francou: I disagree with that strongly. #ChloeValentine
 
Sean Fewster @SeanFewster · 4h

Q: Looking back, shouldn't you have done it? Francou: I don't know, not necessarily. #ChloeValentine

Coroner: That's because you know it's something you simply would never have embarked upon.

Francou: I can't disagree with that enough. I've never been fearful of things being too difficult.

Francou: We were trying to build a rapport with this woman. Coroner: She was not a woman, she was 16 years old.

#ChloeValentine timeline note: Francou passed the case to Ratsch, who drafted the "licence" to use drugs.

Francou says she didn't recommend drug counselling as she "assumed" Ratsch's team would follow up on that. #ChloeValentine

The #ChloeValentine inquest has adjourned until 2.15pm. @theTiser
 
Sean Fewster @SeanFewster · 53m

The #ChloeValentine inquest has resumed with evidence from Families SA social worker Jennifer Warren. @theTiser

Warren took notes of the meeting between Francou & #ChloeValentine's mother, which was the subject of this morning's evidence

Warren: I heard the tape recording of #ChloeValentine's mum discussing drugs. I considered Chloe to be at high risk.

On Sept 24, 08, Families SA was told #ChloeValentine was "sick, vomiting, hair falling out"; her mum was "using whatever drugs she can get".

Warren advised her Families SA team "did not have capacity to become involved in another matter" and follow up that report. #ChloeValentine

She was the acting supervisor at the time, it was her recommendation. #ChloeValentine

Warren: It was certainly not because it did not warrant investigation, it was that we didn't have the resources to investigate.

Warren: I would have looked at all the work we had and made a decision based on which child was currently at the most risk.

Counsel assisting the Coroner, Naomi Kereru, is taking Warren through child abuse reports filed prior to her decision not to investigate.

Warren stands by her decision - it was about resources, not whether #ChloeValentine's case was or wasn't serious.

Q: Did you close other reports without investigation? Warren: Yes, there would have been a number. #ChloeValentine

Warren: It was fairly well known we were having to close off intakes (child abuse reports) without investigation. #ChloeValentine

Next witness is Bruce Johnston, former Families SA area manager who authorised Warren's decision about #ChloeValentine

Johnston trusted his staff to do all they could &, if they sought approval to close without investigation, would approve it. #ChloeValentine

Johnston would read their recommendations but not the whole file; that would be double handling. #ChloeValentine

Only "rarely" would Johnston raise concerns of his own & overrule their recommendations. #ChloeValentine

#ChloeValentine was, aged 1yr and 2mths, the subject of five claims of child abuse and one confirmed incident due to her mum's drug use.

Q: That's an alarming number, isn't it? Johnston: Yes, it's concerning. #ChloeValentine

Q: Then why authorise? Johnston: It's as stated - their case loads were full, they had no staff time to attend to this. #ChloeValentine

Families SA manager would "see 20 to 30" requests to close child abuse reports without investigation "each week". #ChloeValentine @theTiser

Johnston: I & everyone at Families SA felt extremely uncomfortable about the risk we were carrying, that we couldn't get to every case.
 
Sean Fewster @SeanFewster · 54s

Johnston: It was concerning for families, too; they were not receiving a service they should get. #ChloeValentine

Q: Did you ever receive more resources? Johnston: No, I don't think there were any. #ChloeValentine

Q: Did your pleas for resources fall on deaf ears? Johnston: Those are your words. There was no response from the executive. #ChloeValentine

The #ChloeValentine inquest has adjourned for the day and will resume tomorrow at 10am. Full coverage via @theTiser, online & in print.
 
FAMILIES SA did not drug test Chloe Valentine’s mother because it was “just too difficult” and the young addict knew and exploited that fact, the State Coroner says.

SA Coroner Mark Johns hears day six of Chloe Valentine neglect case

A fiery exchange between State Coroner Mark Johns and former Families SA supervisor Kelly Francou opened the sixth day of the inquest this morning.

Ms Francou told the inquest she threatened to “walk Ashlee to Gribbles” and have her drug tested if she did not admit her habit — but promised not to remove Chloe if she were honest.

Mr Johns said Polkinghorne knew it was a hollow threat and so, just five days later, volunteered to submit to drug testing in a false show of co-operation.

The real reason you didn’t take her up on her offer was because you had no idea how to implement (drug testing) ... Ashlee was calling your bluff,” he said.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...ine-neglect-case/story-fni6uo1m-1227073664778
 
Bruce Johnston, who no longer works for the child welfare body, is one of two witnesses expected to give evidence in the Coroners Court today.

The inquest has already heard that, in 2008, Families SA was informed Chloe was “frequently unwell, vomiting and losing her hair” while in Polkinghorne’s care.

The report was deemed a priority matter but was not investigated by Families SA at the order of Mr Johnston, then the manager of the agency’s north-eastern office.

The inquest has heard Mr Johnston “authorised” the report’s “closure without investigation” because “at this time, Families SA does not have the capacity to become involved” :maddening:

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...ine-neglect-case/story-fni6uo1m-1227073664778
 
Sean Fewster @SeanFewster · 5h

Francou: #ChloeValentine's mother lied about drug use until I threatened to have her urine tested. She broke down as asked for our help.

Francou: That suggested to me she had previously used drugs and they would show up, not that she'd used that day. #ChloeValentine

Coroner: You actually had no idea at all. You based it on your loose observations of people who were drug affected. #ChloeValentine

Coroner: You had no idea whatsoever how much #ChloeValentine's mother knew about drug testing and how to fool it.

Coroner: You seem to have exercised your discretion very much in the optimistic hope #ChloeValentine's mum would do the right thing.

Francou praised #ChloeValentine's mum for her honesty, felt she had "turned a corner" by admitting to drug use.

Coroner: You offered the inducement that you wouldn't take #ChloeValentine away if her mum was honest.



Coroner: You had no reason to expect that the next words she uttered wouldn't be a lie. Why on earth did you perceive she deserved praise?

Lying and manipulation at it's best. Case workers should be impervious to this kind of behaviour otherwise the child's welfare is at stake, the more the case worker is invested in mum and dad's 'stories' and clever diversions, the harder it is to make the hard decisions. jmo
 
HOW do you celebrate the birth of a child? Flowers and booties, a jumpsuit or embroidered bib, a collection of Golden Books or a Fisher Price toy?

When Chloe Valentine was born, her mother Ashlee Polkinghorne had just one thing on her mind: “I’m glad that’s all over so I can get p----d again,” she said.

Get pissed she did. Almost daily. When she wasn’t on speed or smoking weed. Or all of the above.

The speed made her a better mum, she figured, because it gave her the energy to change nappies and feed her baby milk.

Ashlee Polkinghorne told a friend that when she was p----d, she would lose interest and just rest the bottle against the child’s mouth, which didn’t really work. But you know, whatever.

Of all the cases I have seen, Chloe Valentine’s is the worst.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/op...072578754?nk=1b67385a6e13d3a4ea00d785d093258b
 

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
105
Guests online
438
Total visitors
543

Forum statistics

Threads
608,253
Messages
18,236,879
Members
234,325
Latest member
davenotwayne
Back
Top