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Was Ciara Hitchhiking? (repeated post)

Debi Marshall's book has some great information but there's some shocking errors in there as well, most that even a quick read through the first time should have been obvious. Editing fail.

Egypt can be quite a dangerous place for women travelling, can we be sure Ciara actually did hitchike through Egypt? If we think she may not have, perhaps hitchiking wasn't something she might do. But, if I was desperate to get home and couldn't get a taxi back then when I was a bit reckless, I may have taken a lift if it looked safe enough or I'd seen the driver around somewhere.
 
Debi Marshall's book has some great information but there's some shocking errors in there as well, most that even a quick read through the first time should have been obvious. Editing fail.

Egypt can be quite a dangerous place for women travelling, can we be sure Ciara actually did hitchike through Egypt? If we think she may not have, perhaps hitchiking wasn't something she might do. But, if I was desperate to get home and couldn't get a taxi back then when I was a bit reckless, I may have taken a lift if it looked safe enough or I'd seen the driver around somewhere.

Pandit - all I'm trying to say is that she wasn't some very young, drunk, irresponsible girl. It's hard to imagine she wouldn't have called her Mum or Dad in an emergency to come get her. Or wait for the offered lift. There are weirdos everywhere around the world and unless someone pulled up that she felt safe with (as you said) she wouldn't have gotten in. How scary would it be walking along the highway alone at that time of night? She knew she was safe or she wouldn't have put herself in that position. By safe I mean she was expecting someone she knew to pick her up. MOO
 
Hi Spinnaker - I know people did hitchhike back then but Ciara was 28 and apparently not drunk. Supposedly sensible. Her mother had filled her in on the Serial Killer in the area. It's the night time bit that makes it worse. She had to be feeling safe knowing someone was going to pick her up. MOO
I have at times walked home from Conti during CSK days as there was no other option - (as taxis too scarce).

Easy to find yourself in a similar scenario as CG, for example did not want stay out with friends etc and decided to go home.

CG had just got back from overseas and may have missed the media coverage re CSK.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...s/news-story/c08351e74533beea0264c21813eb9bf6
 
I have at times walked home from Conti during CSK days as there was no other option - (as taxis too scarce).

Easy to find yourself in a similar scenario as CG, for example did not want stay out with friends etc and decided to go home.

CG had just got back from overseas and may have missed the media coverage re CSK.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...s/news-story/c08351e74533beea0264c21813eb9bf6

Hi Spinnaker - it will be good when the trial starts and hopefully we get some answers. I'm sure what you are saying is right. Maybe in the same situation a lot of people would do the same as Ciara. It's just tragic that whoever picked her up took her life. Poor girl. MOO
 
This is the photo I can't stand to look at, it sends shiver down my spine!!!
 
Pandit - all I'm trying to say is that she wasn't some very young, drunk, irresponsible girl. It's hard to imagine she wouldn't have called her Mum or Dad in an emergency to come get her. Or wait for the offered lift. There are weirdos everywhere around the world and unless someone pulled up that she felt safe with (as you said) she wouldn't have gotten in. How scary would it be walking along the highway alone at that time of night? She knew she was safe or she wouldn't have put herself in that position. By safe I mean she was expecting someone she knew to pick her up. MOO
My youngest uncle in his hippy days touring the world lived in Charles Sobhraj's house during the time that he murdered 2 Germans, yet my uncle had no clue and felt safe there. Wasn't till he got back to Australia that the police came to see him to get a witness statement for Interpol that he found out.
So who really knows how confident Ciara was to hitch a ride? However in her case, I think there's a good chance that she was already acquainted with the accused as I've previously said.

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This is the photo I can't stand to look at, it sends shiver down my spine!!!

Which photo?


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Pandit - all I'm trying to say is that she wasn't some very young, drunk, irresponsible girl. It's hard to imagine she wouldn't have called her Mum or Dad in an emergency to come get her. Or wait for the offered lift. There are weirdos everywhere around the world and unless someone pulled up that she felt safe with (as you said) she wouldn't have gotten in. How scary would it be walking along the highway alone at that time of night? She knew she was safe or she wouldn't have put herself in that position. By safe I mean she was expecting someone she knew to pick her up. MOO

"unless someone pulled up that she felt safe with"......kind of like someone who appeared to be a cop patrolling looking for streetwalkers?
 
Iirc for a long while the LA website was taken offline, so we couldn't read his reports and analyse his writing style.

So please don't judge others until you dig further.


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Thank you for judging me for allegedly judging others but actual point was amazed nobody has raised his writing style before and digging deeper you find these reports were not found on The LA website
 
.....was amazed nobody has raised his writing style before and digging deeper you find these reports were not found on The LA website

There was much discussion of the alleged's writing style in late Dec, early Jan 2017, so thread 4-6 I think from memory. As well the LAC video in which he is walking with slightly turned in foot. Have a read back if you want to find other posts on the topic.
 
Very interesting Canning Vale, thanks. Sandown Racetrack (horses) and Bairnsdale Speedway I think are too far away at two and four hours. Calder Raceway though is under an hour travel from Ballarat and had far bigger meets than any in Ballarat through that time period iirc. I was quite familiar with Calder back in the day and many would travel from Ballarat to race.
Pandit,
Many thanks. I've noted those details which were very helpful to me. Perhaps there is a record of an airplane ticket, hotel stay and car hire. Can anyone else think of anything?
 
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https://www.edwardswines.com.au/pages/about-us

Interesting, while looking around at the Edwards of the south west came across Brian Edwards who flew a tiger moth airplane solo from England to Australia to raise funds for Legacy. Was he an old Wesley College boy?
Perhaps there is an Edwards family tree on the internet. I've had a brief look but can't locate one. A family tree would indicate who are cousins etc.
 


BRE smart yes, clever yes, confident for sure, organised yes, control freak I think so and deceptive for sure.
The 08-09 Belmont Little Athletics Centre report gives some valuable insights into the mind of the alleged serial killer BRE, it revels His personality irrespective of what he alleged to have done. Some interesting points for me, he wrote 5 seperate parts for the report, one as the President and four as the other roles he also undertook, he was very committed and declared how successful the committee was, considering he made up most of it. He also acknowledged it was overwhelming when dealing with too many things at once in all the roles he filled. This shows he understood himself & situational pressures but was able to handle it and let readers know. He is a confident & self assured man. He was thankful and full of praise of his committee members for their skill and talents & acknowledged this from his own position of President. This act assumes the view of his own superiority over them by his own ability and belief to pass qualified judgement. His use off the words I, me or titles are used to add strength and merit to the information he provides to readers. He was willing to be quite critical of some things that have happen over the year and unashamedly expressed it making others look bad. He is strong mined and a dominant person, willing to push others but I would like to see how he handled criticism when levelled against him. It seems he can also see, understand and handle problems but more importantly he likes to have the power and be in control. He set up (from nothing?) and ran the website "religiously" making him very tech savvy so therefore could assume (with other known tech skills) he would understand things like the deep or dark web & tor/i2p (unidentifiable web search, invisible internet etc) and assume that this could be used for his own invisible internet use. LA Report contributors also personally, thanked him, while unknown if it was genuine thanks this does show he was good at what he did. His reports also highlight his attention to detail & his controlling drive for organisation success. He also took personal pride in this success as well as satisfaction of being the person in charge. BRE also mentioned clowns as part of the real "fun day" (his like for clowns shown or coincidence) and how successful the committee was fulfilling the "fun family fitness motto". He is very goal focused and enjoyed not only personal satisfaction in being successful but outwardly needed to express his role and part of this success, so others could see this. (not the quiet achiever, very proud of his achievements). He also gives away a deeper personal desire, by expressing that he liked sitting back & watching the athletes and socialising with people when he was finished with the busyness of running LA , in light of who he is alleged to be, this could be helpful how he could of scoped his victims (at least his later ones) not random but calculated. The Financial report (not written by BRE) indicates Telstra contributed to LA, wonder if BRE helped in securing this, how much authority did he have at Telstra? He also likes it that every t is crossed and i dotted, he is a stickler for details, showing obsessive personality traits. He likes to point out problems and how they are solved, he is a critical thinker & a problem solver. He also demonstrates a good understanding of organisation structure & procedures & incorporates this in his problem solving ability that is necessary for success. BRE is confident, intelligent and a dominant person who strives for success in areas that appeal to him but this would not necessarily apply to all areas of his life. His critical nature and problem solving attitude would make him hard to live with at times but it also means he would handle crisis situation very well, as he would have preplanned ideas and be able to deal with immediate problems by quickly working out the solutions on his feet. Not all would find his dominant leadership style appealing. His ability to organise also saw him receive the centre administrator of year award & later on a community award, maybe he did like collecting trophies?
The report does not prove BRE is a serial killer but does provides tremendous insight to BRE as a person and I am sure others will have their own thoughts and opinions on this. It must also be noted that BRE has over the years has interacted with hundreds if not thousands of people through his schooling workplace & social life (he was not a recluse), I would ask "where are all his supporters of innocent" ? With talk of set up, conspiracy, corruption or wrong person, where are the protests or petitions? instead there are only keyboard warriors who post **** on blogs or "mystery people"who have enough evidence to topple satanic governments & high flyers involved in child pornogophy and snuff films. BRE not entering a plea at all speaks volumes, if he is not guilty, it does not make sense to wait for evidence to plea, not guilty is not guilty, his decision not to plea only makes things darker even if others have taken the same approach, I believe an early not guilty plea would have gained him public support. High level & police corruption and incompetence is a fact but it doesn't mean authorities have the wrong person now, there are a lot of guilty people behind bars. This case will be based on evidence that will be microscopy analysed by many experts & amateurs in Australia & the World. The police are building the best case they can and will not solely rely on DNA for a conviction.
The LA report is a public document and there is no copyright or laws that exclude it from being in public domain as far as I am aware but as others are identified in document care is required in what is said about them.
Look forward to your thoughts.
Twist,

Thank you for the post which must have taken quite a while to prepare. In the future, there will be the opportunity for BRE’s family, friends and colleagues, to provide some insight into his overall character.

In the past, Spooks has mentioned that BRE did a good job with BLA. His responsibilities at BLA would have included management and providing direction etc. Also, at Telstra he possibly provided reports and oversaw the final drafts of relevant minutes of meetings.

I’m sure, BLAs reports indicate that he was good at directing and following up matters as well as providing praise for those deserving.

BRE has shown to be good at report writing. However, at the moment, he has some explaining to do, because there’s DNA evidence which has put him at the scene of multiple heinous crimes.

These are only my thoughts and opinions.
 
Actually it's used more often by the cars
http://www.speedwayandroadracehistory.com/macedon-ranges-hanging-rock-racecourse.html

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Disagree but thanks, I wasn't aware that the original grass track was used in 1935 for motorcycle racing. Probably before they started racing horses on it. I grew up in the area actually overlooking the rock, have raced horses around that track at Hanging Rock and attended events there more times than I can count, I have never seen cars hurtling around it.

Not necessary anyway, Calder Park Thunderdome only half an hour or so away.

"The Australian Motor Sports Club hosted their first meeting on a bitumen track on January 14, 1962.

The track design back then was very similar to the existing Club Circuit, which is still in use today.

In the early 70s Bob Jane purchased Calder Park and from there it became a Victorian motorsport icon with international events drawing in international superstars and crowds to the facility.

These events have included:

  • 1980 to 1984- The Australian Grand Prix
  • NASCAR
  • AUSCAR
  • Australian Motor Racing Series
  • Unique Cars Muscle Car Nationals
  • Australian National Drag Championships- The Nationals
  • Victorian Motor Racing Championship Series
  • 1987- World Touring Car Championship

The National Circuit's long front straight also features a drag strip, which was the home of the Australian National Drag Racing Championship for many years. There are also Legal Off Street Drag Racing every forghtnight on Fridays and Saturdays unless weather is unsuitable for racing.
The first ever World Touring Car Championship round held in Australia was run on the Calder Park Grand Prix circuit in 1989.

This was the first and only time the Grand Prix Circuit (a combination of National and Thunderdome circuits) was used.

Calder Park was also the first to host Superbikes and Super Trucks; the trucks competing on both National and Thunderdome circuits in separate events.

National Circuit: Length 2.280 km / 1.417 miles"


http://www.calderpark.com.au/history/the-national-circuit.aspx
 

Thanks, I wasn't aware that the original grass track was used in 1935 for motorcycle racing. Probably before they started racing horses on it. I grew up in the area actually overlooking the rock, have raced horses around that track at Hanging Rock and attended events there more times than I can count, I have never seen cars hurtling around it :)

Not necessary anyway, Calder Park Thunderdome only half an hour or so away.

"The Australian Motor Sports Club hosted their first meeting on a bitumen track on January 14, 1962.

The track design back then was very similar to the existing Club Circuit, which is still in use today.

In the early 70s Bob Jane purchased Calder Park and from there it became a Victorian motorsport icon with international events drawing in international superstars and crowds to the facility.

These events have included:

  • 1980 to 1984- The Australian Grand Prix
  • NASCAR
  • AUSCAR
  • Australian Motor Racing Series
  • Unique Cars Muscle Car Nationals
  • Australian National Drag Championships- The Nationals
  • Victorian Motor Racing Championship Series
  • 1987- World Touring Car Championship

The National Circuit's long front straight also features a drag strip, which was the home of the Australian National Drag Racing Championship for many years. There are also Legal Off Street Drag Racing every forghtnight on Fridays and Saturdays unless weather is unsuitable for racing.
The first ever World Touring Car Championship round held in Australia was run on the Calder Park Grand Prix circuit in 1989.

This was the first and only time the Grand Prix Circuit (a combination of National and Thunderdome circuits) was used.

Calder Park was also the first to host Superbikes and Super Trucks; the trucks competing on both National and Thunderdome circuits in separate events.

National Circuit: Length 2.280 km / 1.417 miles"


http://www.calderpark.com.au/history/the-national-circuit.aspx

how far are enthusiasts prepared to travel to these meets?
coincidentally, HangingRock & the Thunderdome in CalderPark are both surprisingly within very close proximity to Mount Macedon where the remains of Karen Ristevski were discovered in Feb2017.
Karen disappeared 29thJune2016.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/k...y-that-gripped-melbourne-20170220-guh7mq.html


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