Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #19

[Bunnie]

The rank was there before the murders. It was PROMOTED as secure after that. In reality, it wasn't all that 'secure' as such as it wasn't policed by police officers or security guards at the time. Police stoooed by as it was a known late night rank but it was not a designated police spot back then.

 

[Frankie1972]

But it’s Hakea’s turnover that really sets it apart: the Canning Vale jail has a yearly intake of about 7000 medium and maximum-security prisoners — many of whom are eventually moved on to other jails once they are sentenced.

After a day spent either working, attending court appearances, participating in education, training or life-skills programs, playing sport or working out, the prisoners are back in the tight confines of their cells — most of which have double bunks and all of which have a TV with two DVD channels, a fan, shelving, toilet and basin — by 6.20pm for the nightly lockdown.

High-profile prisoners such as accused Claremont serial killer Bradley Robert Edwards or those considered at risk from other inmates because of the nature of their offending — namely sex offences — are housed in protection in Unit 6, away from the general population. Last week, 105 prisoners were in that unit.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/cr...behind-bars-at-was-hakea-prison-ng-b88687425z

spot on

 

[Spooks-R-Us]

But it’s Hakea’s turnover that really sets it apart: the Canning Vale jail has a yearly intake of about 7000 medium and maximum-security prisoners — many of whom are eventually moved on to other jails once they are sentenced.

After a day spent either working, attending court appearances, participating in education, training or life-skills programs, playing sport or working out, the prisoners are back in the tight confines of their cells — most of which have double bunks and all of which have a TV with two DVD channels, a fan, shelving, toilet and basin — by 6.20pm for the nightly lockdown.

High-profile prisoners such as accused Claremont serial killer Bradley Robert Edwards or those considered at risk from other inmates because of the nature of their offending — namely sex offences — are housed in protection in Unit 6, away from the general population. Last week, 105 prisoners were in that unit.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/cr...behind-bars-at-was-hakea-prison-ng-b88687425z

I thought Hakea had high turn over because it's the closest prison to city law courts. Therefore prisoners appearing in court stay in Hakea. And after sentencing get moved to prisons in outer Perth suburbs.


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[petedavo.au]

"Sarah’s failure to arrive home the next day would spark a series of frantic phone calls between Amanda and Sarah’s friends.

All had assumed that she got home safely and the sense of panic grew steadily over the weekend.

When Sarah failed to show up at her secretarial job on Monday morning, her father Don took his concerns to police."



https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/the-...-from-a-claremont-street-corner-ng-b88337785z

They were worried about Sarah on the weekend but reported it once she wasn't at work.

I put it down to Jane Marwick and Gary Shannon's campaign on 6PR to find Sarah at the time. Jane knew Sarah and her family. Jane's cousin, Julie Cutler had previously disappeared.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/pe...enager-sarah-spiers-was-missing-ng-b88755740z


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[Questions123]

Hakea is a remand prison so this is where they will most likely keep him until trial or sentencing.

 

[petedavo.au]

https://twitter.com/westaustralian/status/968828883876438016

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[Kambo]

1.5 million pages is hard to fathom. It must contain every piece of documented discussion relating to all of the cases over the last 30 years. Every tip, interview, discussion. I deal with contracts for a living and currently have a 400 page tender sitting on my desk that has taken me 3 1/2 days this week to read, comprehend and workout what is relevant. At that rate it would take me 10+ years to sort through this doc. Obviously they have a team, but that’s without documenting any clarifications and getting he responses required. This is realistically going to carry on for another 2 years.


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[Twenty Mile]

1.5 million pages is hard to fathom. It must contain every piece of documented discussion relating to all of the cases over the last 30 years. Every tip, interview, discussion. I deal with contracts for a living and currently have a 400 page tender sitting on my desk that has taken me 3 1/2 days this week to read, comprehend and workout what is relevant. At that rate it would take me 10+ years to sort through this doc. Obviously they have a team, but that’s without documenting any clarifications and getting he responses required. This is realistically going to carry on for another 2 years.


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Is it possible they have taken records from the alleged CSK computer, such as online chats from like minded sicko's. Suspect is probably not that stupid but it would add up to a lot!

 

[Credulious]

Genevieve Cleary on DNA aka defence team, aka President of the Criminal Lawyers Association.

https://omny.fm/shows/breakfast-wit...ent-of-criminal-lawyers-*advertiser censored*

 

[Credulious]

Small team. 1.5 million pieces of evidence still being collated into searchable folders.

Take a seat.

 

[Spooks-R-Us]

"A serial killer keeps killing until one of four things happens: he is caught, he dies, he kills himself or he burns out. "

https://people.howstuffworks.com/serial-killer5.htm

 

[janwa]

I thought Hakea had high turn over because it's the closest prison to city law courts. Therefore prisoners appearing in court stay in Hakea. And after sentencing get moved to prisons in outer Perth suburbs. ............................................
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Definitely all remand prisoners go there. You have to go through an eye recognition process to get in for a visit then line up in groups for the sniffer dogs. Worst thing is if there's an incident and they call lock down while you are there the visit ends as the prisoners have to go to their cells.

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Hakea Prison manages male prisoners who have been remanded in custody while waiting to appear in court or those who have just been sentenced.
Newly-sentenced prisoners are assessed at Hakea Prison before being placed at other WA prisons.
A 15-bed crisis-care facility at Hakea serves the needs of a small group of acute and, at times, chronic 'at risk' offenders who need specialised treatment and support interventions.
Hakea has a self-care block designed mainly for long-term prisoners. It allows selected prisoners to cook and clean for themselves.
Hakea's focus is on rehabilitation and employs prisoners in a number of areas including laundry, carpentry, concreting and other domestic duties.

 

[ApplePie80]

Small team. 1.5 million pieces of evidence still being collated into searchable folders.

Take a seat.

Hard to imagine after all these years of work, charges included, that the evidence wasn't already categorised.

Surely with the evidence management involved in chain of custody they would not be shoving everything in a shoe box..

 

[Owlie]

The pictures of Don Speirs & Dennis Glennon are heart-wrenching.....they look like 'broken soul's. [emoji22][emoji22][emoji22]

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Absolutely those poor men and it’s also very sad that Mr Rimmer didn’t live to see what had happened to his daughter. I thought Jane’s sister was very stoic.


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[CyberRH]

It won't be an spread sheet, there is software around that will file & store the data in electronic form and have extensive search functions. Companies specialise in this type of filing storing and retrieving specifically for court proceedings.

Hi Twist
Being a "cyber guy" I appreciate what you are saying. It's just that the direct quote in the paper was "...excel spreadsheet with x y x". You're right - why would you put it into Excel? Unless the spreadsheet was just line by line of evidence with hyperlinks ie -

1. 22/3/1988 Kewdale break-in <insert link to word doco on this>
2. dd/mm/yy Karakatta Cemetry rape <insert link to victims statement + photo evidence etc>
3. etc etc

 

[Owlie]

I sort of look at it being a care free period in Perth where the only thing you had to worry about on a night out was ducking and weaving away from a few sleazy boys in bars that by the next morning were the cause of many giggles when reliving the fun of the night before.

To me it would not be unusual for a cab to be called and then for plans to change in the blink of an eye and for someone not being there for pick up... (i must admit I am guilty of this on more than one occassion)

But given her background I can understand why the hairs on the back of necks may have stood up and major case called in.

Cant help but think that there is more too it though - IMO.

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I think it was her young age and family background, that made it obvious she wasn’t just a run away. In those days there was no social media but her family and friends plastered missing posters everywhere.

In the recent replay of the CIA documentary about the Birnie’s it stated that the police took some time to link the cases, perhaps this time they wanted to jump straight on to the case of a missing teenage girl, unlike their somewhat slower response a decade earlier when they seemed to assume until Kate Moir escaped that the victims were runaways. IMO

https://youtu.be/WATx7dV6RXQ



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[Akai]

Given I know the KK victim she is also a similar look to the the girls, slim, petite (height) but brunette..perhaps there is some truth to this..I think he personally just hung out in the dense bushes in Rowe Park and waited for someone to wander past there in his early opportunistic days...

Thank you for sharing that information.

If it is appropriate for you to do so, would you pass on my best wishes to her? I cannot fathom what she went through and I think she has been incredibly courageous and strong about this whole matter right from the start.


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[Akai]

Hi Twist
Being a "cyber guy" I appreciate what you are saying. It's just that the direct quote in the paper was "...excel spreadsheet with x y x". You're right - why would you put it into Excel? Unless the spreadsheet was just line by line of evidence with hyperlinks ie -

1. 22/3/1988 Kewdale break-in <insert link to word doco on this>
2. dd/mm/yy Karakatta Cemetry rape <insert link to victims statement + photo evidence etc>
3. etc etc

That's what I assumed about the Excel document - that it was a reference. I don't know how they would contain all the evidence in Excel.


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[Owlie]

I was thinking here, the only winners are the lawyers. 1.5 million pages to read $$$$. One of the things that amazed me about this site when I joined this site is that newspaper articles could be read by multiple people and several of them would pick up single lines out of the article each that could be important or imply something in the case.

They have 1.5 million pages, I am guessing we have seen less than 100.

I was wondering last night when I saw the defence lawyer on the news who would be paying the lawyers bills they would be astronomical? I think the defence team would have to be pro-Bono, how could any 9-5 average working person be able to afford top lawyers? IMO


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[Akai]

I was wondering last night when I saw the defence lawyer on the news who would be paying the lawyers bills they would be astronomical? I think the defence team would have to be pro-Bono, how could any 9-5 average working person be able to afford top lawyers? IMO


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I can't speak to this situation, obviously, but people have been known to sell their houses to fund their defense.


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