Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #6

[billywhizz]

None of the other previous attacks involved a vehicle or a hood. There is even an identikit, which shows how little he cared about people knowing what his face looked like. If all the previous attacks are linked then his vehicle must have been very easily identifiable if he was this concerned. Either that or he knew the victim.

 

[billywhizz]

I'm not posting anything new. This has all been put out there before.

If you want to access the aerial maps go to Langate. Use the mosaic tool and then select 1995.

On one hand I lean towards KK being the CSK but on the other hand I'm not convinced the girls were blitz attacked. How do we explain why the CSK chose to wait on the side of the road with a lower chance of a girl walking past? He may have stalked her on foot from St Quentin's Ave but that's increasing his chances of abducting a victim a long way from his car. I think if it's a blitz attack then lie and wait is more likely.

He probably knew KK and the way she would walk home, which would explain the hood and the fact he let her live.

 

[Mo Joe]

What was the description of the masturbator?

 

[Mo Joe]

Should we be including the attack reported in the Post, but never reported to, or recorded by Police? Realistically, there is a possibility that it may not have happened, or if it did, it can't be proven.

 

[Mo Joe]

If a local was blitz attacking so many women - someone would have recognised him. I don't think he was local - but I do think he must have worked in the area to have knowledge of all the off street car parking. JMO.

 

[Bartholemeus]

Should we be including the attack reported in the Post, but never reported to or recorded by Police? Realistically, there is a possibility that it may not have happened, or if it did it can't be proven.

A lot of those incidents have very little detail. Next to nothing on Swanbourne train station, golf course, loading dock, princess rd taxi etc.

 

[Bartholemeus]

He probably knew KK and the way she would walk home, which would explain the hood and the fact he let her live.

This seem unlikely. She was staying at a friend's house so he'd have to be pretty tight to know her route. He was well planned and it would have been hard to mobilise himself quickly.

 

[Mo Joe]

He probably knew KK and the way she would walk home, which would explain the hood and the fact he let her live.

This is a good theory, and why the kk witness is so valuable.

 

[Mo Joe]

This seem unlikely. She was staying at a friend's house so he'd have to be pretty tight to know her route. He was well planned and it would have been hard to mobilise himself quickly.

What if he didn't know her personally? Perhaps she served him in a shop or something like that?

 

[Mo Joe]

He probably knew KK and the way she would walk home, which would explain the hood and the fact he let her live.

Perhaps he knew one or both of her parents, and let her go because he wasn't confident he could handle facing them if he killed her?

 

[Mo Joe]

What percent of men would be strong enough to drag a woman that distance?

 

[88mph]

What percent of men would be strong enough to drag a woman that distance?

From the dumping to the attacks, it's clear that he's stronger than the average guy.


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[meticulously]

And theres the possibility the rowe park/kk perp was waiting for the victims friend or another girl who often walked there . ( The "friend" didnt go out and was at said home ? ) thus the perp encountered a substitute with this "visitor" girl . We cant say unless theres evidence of any more clues can we ?
# One article to find where a "car" at kk/rowe was mentioned is somewhere on here.
Looking at barts recent Stirling hwy ambush zones have stumped me im going to think about it for a while and the possibility of a adrin bayley ( which I thought of after jillian meagers murder incidently ) MO used where he assaults then brings car around after to pickup concealed body . Because if it wasnt a taxi & it was a bayley mo then the guy was everywhere in the dark lanes & corners around the whole claremont perimeter like a ghost it seems


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[Bartholemeus]

What if he didn't know her personally? Perhaps she served him in a shop or something like that?

How would he know she was staying at a friend's house and walking a different route home?

 

[Bartholemeus]

What percent of men would be strong enough to drag a woman that distance?

99% of them.

 

[Mo Joe]

How would he know she was staying at a friend's house and walking a different route home?

Eavesdropping?

 

[Mo Joe]

99% of them.

There appears to be huge disagreement between websleuth posters as to the physical strength of the CSK? Have each of the potential scenarios been re-enacted or scientifically calculated by the Police, to provide information regarding the minimum height, weight and strength of the alleged perpetrator? I agree with 88mph that he was stronger than average, but that may be linked to his size.

 

[Bartholemeus]

Eavesdropping?

That's a bit of a stretch. It's a huge stretch actually.

Let's assume he just eavesdropped. Maybe at CBV. How did he know where her friend lived? What are the chances of him being able to mobilise that quickly?

It's fair to say for him to know the victim was staying at her friend's house and for him know where she lived and thus knowing which route she'd take home, he would have had to know her. How did he know she, or her friend for that matter would be walking home alone?

I think it's far more likely KK Man did some recon and decided this was a good abduction point for girls walking home from Club. It's also more likely he didn't kill her because he was either just a rapist or hadn't evolved to a killer yet.

 

[Bartholemeus]

There appears to be huge disagreement between websleuth posters as to the physical strength of the CSK? Have each of the potential scenarios been re-enacted or scientifically calculated by the Police, to provide information regarding the minimum height, weight and strength of the alleged perpetrator? I agree with 88mph that he was stronger than average, but that may be linked to his size.

Scenario 1 - KK Man grabs victim from behind. Holds knife to neck and told not to move. He pushes her onto ground on her stomach and bags her head, ties her hands. He then frogmarches her to her car under the threat of a knife.

Scenario 2 - CG could be described as petite or diminutive. At a guess, she'd be 50kg. The CSK drives into that bush track, parks, and carries her in his arms maybe 20m.


The vast majority of men can handle that.

There's no real indication as to the CSK's strength other than an early media report that suggested the KK victim felt her attacker was tall.

 

[Mo Joe]

That's a bit of a stretch. It's a huge stretch actually.

Let's assume he just eavesdropped. Maybe at CBV. How did he know where her friend lived? What are the chances of him being able to mobilise that quickly?

It's fair to say for him to know the victim was staying at her friend's house and for him know where she lived and thus knowing which route she'd take home, he would have had to know her. How did he know she, or her friend for that matter would be walking home alone?

I think it's far more likely KK Man did some recon and decided this was a good abduction point for girls walking home from Club. It's also more likely he didn't kill her because he was either just a rapist or hadn't evolved to a killer yet.

Stalkers eavesdrop.