Found Deceased Australia - Elisa Curry, 43, Aireys Inlet, Melbourne, 30 Sept 2017 #2

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I apologise if this has been mentioned previously, I am still playing catch ups..

How does one ascertain the difference between a phone being switched off, and going flat?

I read in early MSM I am sure, that EC and DC had contact after the GF, and not exactly sure how it was worded but throughout the evening.
Perhaps DC was concerned with EC’s contact, or lack of, asked neighbour to check on her, and she reported back, “all ok, EC going to bed”. That would somewhat comfort DC for the night, and perhaps he made plans to arrive early in the morning to be there for EC when she work up.

Or, perhaps a text exchange between DC and EC, could of been argy pargy and she said “this conversation is going nowhere I am turning my phone off”
All speculation of course.

The timeframe and the wording of phone being switched off suggests to me, that there was some sort of indication the phone was being switched off, as opposed to just going flat.

MOO is that EC has most probably taken her own life, and I believe that there was indications throughout the day and or evening leading up to her disappearance.

That, or, the closed eyes neighbour knows more...


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The Grand Final finished at 5.15pm (Go Tiges!)
My son and I were texting one another during and at the end of the game.

If, as I understand it, EC messaged her husband at 5.30pm about the result, that leaves a lot of time until 10.30pm when EC's phone was turned off.

I wonder what happened in the intervening hours.
 
In this article it is reported the husband and children 'returned' to the Aireys Inlet address on Sunday. Does this mean the whole family had been together there on Saturday morning with husband and 3 children attending the afl match in Melbourne thus leaving Alisa in Aireys Inlet. I had assumed she had travelled there by herself from Surrey Hills. http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au...y/news-story/54694df25655af0a51ffdeb9e0ae2904
 
I personally turn off my mobile when it is charging as it charges much faster turned off.
 
This is my Occams Razor too. I think the phone is a red herring, it may have been just habit she took it with her, or she may not have wanted anyone to find it , or she may have taken it in case she changed her mind.

I don't find the neighbour suspicious, at first it seemed slightly odd, would still like to know if it was Elisa or husband who called her back, but I think she was just evasive to protect Elisa in case she was found alive.
I'm sure the police know the exact reasons for going back.
I think Elisa may have simply walked out into the sea and had planned it from the moment she had deleted her FB.

Agree, kiwi. My Occam's Razor too.

Mine too.

Mine too.
 
The love triangle or other lover scenario is very possible, happens more than you’d know. My sister went along with another woman coming into the bed, to spice things up [emoji15]
Anyway that ended in a HUGE fight because he spent more “time” with the new woman while they were all in bed. People will do some crazy stuff when mentally tipped!


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I think the phone is the killers mistake. .. ... taking her phone... where there is a whole raft of suicidal women who leave their phones behind, or are found with the phone on the seat of the car, or have it clutched in their hand. .

whereas.. a whole lot of murdered women, disappear, with their phones. ..

Karen Ristevski... Borce said she ran away, with an easily obtained false passport, ran to China... ... cant find the phone..

Baden Clay. he maintained she was a suicide, and walked 15 klms in the dark to hurl herself off a bridge... .....cant find Alisons phone.

Tanja Ebert. apparently left her kids, her passport, her husband, but took her phone.. husband says , she ran away....that she wanted to separate from him and that she was a risktaker... that she got out of the car in the middle of the desert.. .. .

Elisa Curry...... left her kids, her home, her husband, never left a clue, husband says, 4 days into huge search operation, she might be an alcoholic and depressed...... turned her phone off and took it with her, says husband....

just a very small sample.

and I think whoever kill s these women has this thought process in common with each other, they all see these women as their phones being a part of them. An intrinsic and unbreakable bonding , in their eyes, between the woman they kill and that woman's phone. Therefore, the phone goes too. It's as if they see the phone as the woman still speaking.. against them , criticizing, accusing, blaming, (which could all be justified,) but the phone is significant .. kill the phone, too.
 
The one thing that stands out for me is that the neighbour saw her going to bed or in bed. I find this really odd. There is no way I would get into bed with my best friend standing next to me let alone a part-time neighbour. Did she just let herself out?? Very strange. Unless she was drunk, and didn't know what she was doing and the neighbour helped her into bed. But then who would get up for a run when you are hungover? I think she woke up hungover, possibly not remembering how she got to bed, and decided somehow to take her own life. I was in a similar situation to her at one point in my life. 3 very small children, an unsupportive and controlling husband, emotionally abusive. We had no money (that might be the difference) I was taking prescription meds to deal with it all. I had thought about taking my life a few times.
Obviously I didnt. And I got out of that relationship. And all ok now, but what I am saying is that being a full time mum is a knifes edge. It's VERY hard and just the slightest thing can tip you over.

I hope she is found and doesn't become another missing.
 
I wonder if anyone has put the lead on the Labrador, opened the gate and see where it takes them?
 
They were socialising so there didn't seem any animosity.
Lots of stuff can happen between neighbours. Lots!
Yes...exactly!!! The three of them were socialising...alcohol was involved. What went down that night? :thinking: Did something happen that caused a rift between the couple (neighbours) and they went home and argued? The wife then went back and confronted EC? I'm not expecting anyone to answer the questions, I'm just pointing out, like Trooper, LOTS can happen between neighbours and not all good, unfortunately.
 
I wonder if anyone has put the lead on the Labrador, opened the gate and see where it takes them?
That crossed my mind at the very start too! Let the dog out...ask it--"Where's Elisa...where's Elisa, go find Elisa". Dogs understand that language, they're very clever...it's something that should have been done when the dog was first found roaming the street but could still work days or weeks later. Fingers crossed someone thought of it when Elisa was first discovered missing. MOO
 
Yes even with the closest of family and friends things can get messy after a long day on the juice.
 
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