Found Deceased Australia - Jesse Baird, 26, TV presenter and partner Luke Davies, 29. blood located at home, 23 Feb 2024 *arrest*

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Arabella3 said:
Essentially you turn yourself in bc you know you know you’re about to be arrested. It lets you control the situation - where and when, how much force is used, how the media responds, whether your family are there and have to see it all, etc.

You also then get to say you did the right thing which helps with a plea or with sentencing.

One you’re in custody, it’s not then expected you’d admit everything. Listening to your lawyer isn’t looked upon negatively. You have the right to a lawyer and a lawyer would tell you not to actively incriminate yourself.

Also, I imagine he will be thinking very carefully when and how he discloses the other information. Depending on the way he killed them it could be better or worse for him to disclose where the bodies are now. It’s hard to prove murder without a body, so hes probably waiting to see whether he can force a good deal since prosecution have a harder job if they can’t show a body or prove how it happened (eg “it was spur of the moment, I didn’t mean to” compared to premeditation). Long term I imagine he will disclose given the no body no parole law.
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It's all about the "power & control " he knows where the bodies are & it's now a game to him IMO

Very sick individual who had a very powerful job.

I imagine that him not getting in "trouble" over the tazer incident , only gave him more power in his mind :mad:
 

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Lamarre's sister Jamila Lamarre-Condon 25, stationed with the radio communications unit, was a cop to. Joined in 2022, sacked for not getting the Covid19 vaccine.

His mother, Coleen Lamarre, an unsworn civilian NSW Police employee, last November successfully defended a speeding charge in the Downing Centre Local Court, where she pleaded guilty but was not convicted.

One source described how the Lamarre-Condon siblings owned a swimwear line. The brother and sister are both listed as directors of Ivy Swim Pty Ltd, al though its website shows no sign of them.

Lamarre, didn't like to tell friends he was a cop, instead saying he ran online businesses.
 
drsleuth said:

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Lamarre's sister Jamila Lamarre-Condon 25, stationed with the radio communications unit, was a cop to. Joined in 2022, sacked for not getting the Covid19 vaccine.

His mother, Coleen Lamarre, an unsworn civilian NSW Police employee, last November successfully defended a speeding charge in the Downing Centre Local Court, where she pleaded guilty but was not convicted.

One source described how the Lamarre-Condon siblings owned a swimwear line. The brother and sister are both listed as directors of Ivy Swim Pty Ltd, al though its website shows no sign of them.

Lamarre, didn't like to tell friends he was a cop, instead saying he ran online businesses.
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Sounds like a family that doesn’t like to comply with rules and regulations, how odd they all got into working with law enforcement.
All imo.
 
Arabella3 said:
Also, I imagine he will be thinking very carefully when and how he discloses the other information. Depending on the way he killed them it could be better or worse for him to disclose where the bodies are now. It’s hard to prove murder without a body, so hes probably waiting to see whether he can force a good deal since prosecution have a harder job if they can’t show a body or prove how it happened (eg “it was spur of the moment, I didn’t mean to” compared to premeditation). Long term I imagine he will disclose given the no body no parole law.
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I agree, which is why I was so surprised that they charged him with murder so quickly. Authorities must have been very confident a murder took place, IMO.
It’s one thing to presume someone is dead after they’ve disappeared for years or even months, but it would be a huge embarrassment to charge someone for murder within a week and it turns out the victims were unconscious and unidentified in a hospital somewhere.
 
Mack the Knife said:
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I agree, which is why I was so surprised that they charged him with murder so quickly. Authorities must have been very confident a murder took place, IMO.
It’s one thing to presume someone is dead after they’ve disappeared for years or even months, but it would be a huge embarrassment to charge someone for murder within a week and it turns out the victims were unconscious and unidentified in a hospital somewhere.
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I’m thinking a massive amount of blood found - from both victims… they must have been terrified.
 
Marysmith said:
At this point I can’t even imagine you’d ever get parole for committing a horrific crime like this. He went to where they were
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Australian life sentences aren’t for life. Its very very rare anyone gets a sentence young and stays in forever.

And parole is favoured for people who will be getting out soon bc then you can monitor them more, meaning you can see whether they can reintegrate into society and have more opportunities to catch them red handed if they reoffend.
 
iamshadow21 said:
www.abc.net.au

How police tracked down one of their own over the alleged murder of missing Sydney couple

Some time between 12:01am and 5:30pm on Monday, Luke Davies and Jesse Baird were allegedly killed in Sydney. A police officer is behind bars after the week-long investigation, but more questions remain unanswered.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au

Nothing much new, but it confirms what the Star Observer article said, that BL was on duty.
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I'd love to know what specialised unit he was in?

Did he work solo?

Did no one notice he was "missing" while on his killing spree?
 
Arabella3 said:
Essentially you turn yourself in bc you know you know you’re about to be arrested. It lets you control the situation - where and when, how much force is used, how the media responds, whether your family are there and have to see it all, etc.
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Turning himself in when the police were looking for him also isn’t necessarily an admission of guilt. Sometimes it turns out that the people police want to talk to to assist in their investigations don’t turn out to be the perpetrators.

He might still be insisting he is innocent and claiming not to know where the bodies are. That he turned up at the police station not to hand himself over but because the police were looking for him and that is what an innocent person would do too.
 
Mack the Knife said:
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I agree, which is why I was so surprised that they charged him with murder so quickly. Authorities must have been very confident a murder took place, IMO.
It’s one thing to presume someone is dead after they’ve disappeared for years or even months, but it would be a huge embarrassment to charge someone for murder within a week and it turns out the victims were unconscious and unidentified in a hospital somewhere.
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As difficult as this is to write, there may have been brain matter found which would indicate a fatality.
 
“The officer was initially not expected to appear in Waverley Local Court on Friday afternoon after his lawyer advised he was undertaking a forensic procedure.”

www.aap.com.au

Cop charged with murder, alleged victims still missing

NSW Police are still searching for two men after a serving officer, who dated one of the alleged victims, was charged with two counts of murder.
www.aap.com.au www.aap.com.au
 
Arabella3 said:
Australian life sentences aren’t for life. Its very very rare anyone gets a sentence young and stays in forever.

And parole is favoured for people who will be getting out soon bc then you can monitor them more, meaning you can see whether they can reintegrate into society and have more opportunities to catch them red handed if they reoffend.
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An ok. Thank you.
 
It's a loaded headline that makes me uncomfortable, but I'm not a subscriber, so I can't see beyond the first line. It may go some way to explaining one of BL's duties, though, which has been speculated on here.

www.smh.com.au

Cop charged with double murder of Sydney couple worked with students

Beau Lamarre-Condon worked with children at Sydney schools before allegedly killing two Sydney men at a Paddington home.
www.smh.com.au www.smh.com.au
 
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iamshadow21 said:
It's a loaded headline that makes me uncomfortable, but I'm not a subscriber, so I can't see beyond the first line. It may go some way to explaining one of BL's duties, though, which has been speculated on here.

www.smh.com.au

Cop charged with double murder of Sydney couple worked with students

Beau Lamarre-Condon worked with children at Sydney schools before allegedly killing two Sydney men at a Paddington home.
www.smh.com.au www.smh.com.au
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It says that Lamarre was working as a “youth engagement officer” which put him in frequent contact with school students in the city’s south.

The SMH can reveal Lamarre-Condon was based at the Youth Command in the city’s south, which saw him frequent schools in suburbs including Bexley, Kingsgrove & Rockdale.
 
drsleuth said:
I'd love to know what specialised unit he was in?

Did he work solo?

Did no one notice he was "missing" while on his killing spree?
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I read in an Australian article, that he was assigned to the Protection Operations Unit, the unit responsible for the security of politicians, diplomats and other dignitaries.

Which I think is why Doherty wouldn’t elaborate any further in the presser… it was a major embarrassment for the police on top of the already shameful situation the Police found themselves in …
IMO

Paywalled for some:
 
SLouTh said:
I read in an Australian article, that he was assigned to the Protection Operations Unit, the unit responsible for the security of politicians, diplomats and other dignitaries.

Which I think is why Doherty wouldn’t elaborate any further in the presser… it was a major embarrassment for the police on top of the already shameful situation the Police found themselves in …
IMO

Paywalled for some:
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I wonder if that might just have been in his head??

I imagine that's what he probably wanted.........IMO
 
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