Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #16 *Arrest*

[tmar]

That wasn't meant towards you tmar. Troops was aiming it at the 'R's"

I understand.
I also were referring to 'friends of R'!!!

 

[tmar]

For those who may go to North Korea: thought I would help them get acclimatized.

Glimpses of life inside the secret state of North Korea

A crowded tram in Pyongyang.

Housing in Pyongyang suburbs.

People gather around a duck enclosure in a zoo in Pyongyang.

 

[sosocurious]

No photos in courtroom allowed in Aus. No identification of jurors allowed, either.

No photos in the court in Aussie
But Sarah was a little miffed.
While telling her junk food story, she cried. Her stress obvious.
Mid sentence she paused. "Someone took a photo in here" she said. She was pointing out what she thought to be the sound of an electronic shutter of a an ipad or i phone.

Category: | Herald Sun
Patrick Carlyon: Mother’s killing shatters Ristevski family’s idyllic life

 

[Pi Thoughts]

I know this is from DM (I’m trying to find another msm link) but I wonder if we will hear any further.

Borce Ristevski's ex 'asked about his sexual fantasies' | Daily Mail Online

A former partner of Borce Ristevski has revealed she was asked by police if the accused killer had been violent towards her during sex.

Ristevski, was charged with the murder of his wife Karen on Wednesday, nearly 18 months after she vanished from her Avondale Heights home in Melbourne.

Following her disappearance, detectives questioned the family's friends and relatives about the Ristevski's marriage and whether it had been volatile.

An ex-girlfriend of Mr Ristevski's was asked about his sexual fantasies and whether he had been violent towards her - including during sex, the Herald Sun reported.

 

[Trooper]

I know this is from DM (I’m trying to find another msm link) but I wonder if we will hear any further.

Borce Ristevski's ex 'asked about his sexual fantasies' | Daily Mail Online

A former partner of Borce Ristevski has revealed she was asked by police if the accused killer had been violent towards her during sex.

Ristevski, was charged with the murder of his wife Karen on Wednesday, nearly 18 months after she vanished from her Avondale Heights home in Melbourne.

Following her disappearance, detectives questioned the family's friends and relatives about the Ristevski's marriage and whether it had been volatile.

An ex-girlfriend of Mr Ristevski's was asked about his sexual fantasies and whether he had been violent towards her - including during sex, the Herald Sun reported.

*head in hands * I don't want to know!....

*gag *

the imagery!.. Borce and.. agh ggg

 

[Armchair snoop]

It shows what we know eh SA, with all our collective sleuthing, we know Jack. The cops have been sitting on this information for how long so what else have they got up their sleeves.
Ya gotta love our boyz.

Going through the time line as published by msm, one could come up with the following scenario.
Borces phone was turned off or disconnected from the network at 11.09.
Karens phone was still on and was detected by phone towers at Diggers Rest, Sunbury and Gisborne. It was last marked at a tower near Gisborne South at 1140. 31 minutes after Borces phone was turned off or disconnected.
One could assume from this that maybe Karen still had her phone on her person. Could it be that Borce found her phone whilst removing her body from the car. Realising the phone was still on he turned it off. He had 31 minutes to do his deed.
His phone was off for 102 minutes which would put his phone back on air at 12.51.
There has been no mention of which tower picked up his phone being reconnected to the network.
That leaves him 71 minutes to conceal the body and make his way home. How long would it take him to get home?
Maybe 35-40 minutes. Just my thoughts.

 

[Armchair snoop]

For those who may go to North Korea: thought I would help them get acclimatized.

Glimpses of life inside the secret state of North Korea

A crowded tram in Pyongyang.

Housing in Pyongyang suburbs.

People gather around a duck enclosure in a zoo in Pyongyang.

Gee thanks tmar I'm looking forward to it.. ........... NOT

 

[JLZ]

Going through the time line as published by msm, one could come up with the following scenario.
Borces phone was turned off or disconnected from the network at 11.09.
Karens phone was still on and was detected by phone towers at Diggers Rest, Sunbury and Gisborne. It was last marked at a tower near Gisborne South at 1140. 31 minutes after Borces phone was turned off or disconnected.
One could assume from this that maybe Karen still had her phone on her person. Could it be that Borce found her phone whilst removing her body from the car. Realising the phone was still on he turned it off. He had 31 minutes to do his deed.
His phone was off for 102 minutes which would put his phone back on air at 12.51.
There has been no mention of which tower picked up his phone being reconnected to the network.
That leaves him 71 minutes to conceal the body and make his way home. How long would it take him to get home?
Maybe 35-40 minutes. Just my thoughts.

Going by the video footage of the black Mercedes, Borce was in the Diggers Rest region when he turned off his phone. Gisborne South is about 10km from there. Did he take 31 minutes to travel 10km? (Stopped somewhere on the way?) If Borce switched off the phone because it was being rung by the shop staff . . . would he have heard it if he was driving through Gisborne South and Karen and the phone were in the boot? Or, if they were at Mt Macedon at 11:40, is it likely the phone would have been picked up by the Gisborne South tower? I'm going nowhere with this, these are just questions arising from the timeline.

 

[they'll get you]

*head in hands * I don't want to know!....

*gag *

the imagery!.. Borce and.. agh ggg

Karen & Borce were married at least 21 years so I'm surprised the cops would track a previous lover way back into his early 20's UNLESS there's been another more recently.

 

[Armchair snoop]

Going by the video footage of the black Mercedes, Borce was in the Diggers Rest region when he turned off his phone. Gisborne South is about 10km from there. Did he take 31 minutes to travel 10km? (Stopped somewhere on the way?) If Borce switched off the phone because it was being rung by the shop staff . . . would he have heard it if he was driving through Gisborne South and Karen and the phone were in the boot? Or, if they were at Mt Macedon at 11:40, is it likely the phone would have been picked up by the Gisborne South tower? I'm going nowhere with this, these are just questions arising from the timeline.

Going by the video footage of the black Mercedes, Borce was in the Diggers Rest region when he turned off his phone. Gisborne South is about 10km from there. Did he take 31 minutes to travel 10km? (Stopped somewhere on the way?) If Borce switched off the phone because it was being rung by the shop staff . . . would he have heard it if he was driving through Gisborne South and Karen and the phone were in the boot? Or, if they were at Mt Macedon at 11:40, is it likely the phone would have been picked up by the Gisborne South tower? I'm going nowhere with this, these are just questions arising from the timeline.

Questions, questions, questions, to many questions, will we able to wait until march next year to finally get some answers? Will we finally get the answers? Not from Borce we won't.

 

[sosocurious]

Going through the time line as published by msm, one could come up with the following scenario.
Borces phone was turned off or disconnected from the network at 11.09.
Karens phone was still on and was detected by phone towers at Diggers Rest, Sunbury and Gisborne. It was last marked at a tower near Gisborne South at 1140. 31 minutes after Borces phone was turned off or disconnected.
One could assume from this that maybe Karen still had her phone on her person. Could it be that Borce found her phone whilst removing her body from the car. Realising the phone was still on he turned it off. He had 31 minutes to do his deed.
His phone was off for 102 minutes which would put his phone back on air at 12.51.
There has been no mention of which tower picked up his phone being reconnected to the network.
That leaves him 71 minutes to conceal the body and make his way home. How long would it take him to get home?
Maybe 35-40 minutes. Just my thoughts.

And he reconnected his phone to the network 12 minutes before he arrived home.

• 10:43am: Communications tower detects both mobile phones near couple's home
• 10:44am-11:40am: Mobile towers detect one or both phones between Avondale Heights and Gisborne
• 11:09am: Borce Ristevski's phone switched off
• 11:40am: Last known connection of Karen Ristevski's phone
• 12:51pm: Borce Ristevski's phone switched back on
• 1:03pm: Borce Ristevski returns home

Karen Ristevski's accused killer husband made up facts to cover tracks, court hears

 

[sosocurious]

Going through the time line as published by msm, one could come up with the following scenario.
Borces phone was turned off or disconnected from the network at 11.09.
Karens phone was still on and was detected by phone towers at Diggers Rest, Sunbury and Gisborne. It was last marked at a tower near Gisborne South at 1140. 31 minutes after Borces phone was turned off or disconnected.
One could assume from this that maybe Karen still had her phone on her person. Could it be that Borce found her phone whilst removing her body from the car. Realising the phone was still on he turned it off. He had 31 minutes to do his deed.
His phone was off for 102 minutes which would put his phone back on air at 12.51.
There has been no mention of which tower picked up his phone being reconnected to the network.
That leaves him 71 minutes to conceal the body and make his way home. How long would it take him to get home?
Maybe 35-40 minutes. Just my thoughts.

Yes
Karen's phone
9:18 am - Maidstone area
10:43 - Keilor East Tower - before connecting to
11:40 - Gisborne Tower.
The car was parked the wrong way on Childers road before or around midday.
1:19 pm - attempted voice mail traced to Diggers/Sunbury area. (Cov Mo)

Borce had his phone disconnected from the network for 102 minutes.
But was on the road for at least 140 minutes 10:43am until 1:03pm.

Category: | Herald Sun
Ristevski latest: Borce and Karen’s phones ‘deactivated’ on day she went missing

 

[tmar]

Gee thanks tmar I'm looking forward to it.. ........... NOT

My pleasure, to help!!
Did you note, the 'type of Zoo' you may experience?
Being an animal lover, I certainly wouldn't be too happy.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Going by the video footage of the black Mercedes, Borce was in the Diggers Rest region when he turned off his phone. Gisborne South is about 10km from there. Did he take 31 minutes to travel 10km? (Stopped somewhere on the way?) If Borce switched off the phone because it was being rung by the shop staff . . . would he have heard it if he was driving through Gisborne South and Karen and the phone were in the boot? Or, if they were at Mt Macedon at 11:40, is it likely the phone would have been picked up by the Gisborne South tower? I'm going nowhere with this, these are just questions arising from the timeline.

I may follow with further questions: When he was seen standing near a parking car/cars, had the phone been running or not? (Timeline!) One could think: it must have been on, because why waiting for someone, if I have no contact? Why standing there, good visible, if I'm not waiting for someone/something?

 

[Detective Willy]

Borce is a Gary Goner. The prosecution still has all of the aces up their sleave....haha Borce.

 

[Detective Willy]

Borce is a Gary Goner. The prosecution still has all of the aces up their sleave....haha Borce.

Aussie slang like Bill Lawry commentating on the cricket "Got him gawnnn".

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Are you allowed to identify jurors by name in Germany?

Probably not. I searched for it (re anonymity), but didn't find it, sorry. Now I'm just too hot for searching (29,4 C° in my living room).

 

[SouthAussie]

Yes
Karen's phone
9:18 am - Maidstone area
10:43 - Keilor East Tower - before connecting to
11:40 - Gisborne Tower.
The car was parked the wrong way on Childers road before or around midday.
1:19 pm - attempted voice mail traced to Diggers/Sunbury area. (Cov Mo)

Borce had his phone disconnected from the network for 102 minutes.
But was on the road for at least 140 minutes 10:43am until 1:03pm.

Category: | Herald Sun
Ristevski latest: Borce and Karen’s phones ‘deactivated’ on day she went missing

Sort of sounds as if Karen's phone ended up in the Toolern Vale area, doesn't it?

 

[tmar]

Probably not. I searched for it (re anonymity), but didn't find it, sorry. Now I'm just too hot for searching (29,4 C° in my living room).

Here it is 6, so I can't wait to say, "Wow, Isn't it hot"

 

[tmar]

Sort of sounds as if Karen's phone ended up in the Toolern Vale area, doesn't it?

Yes, where Vasko likes to frequent!!
Answers to those questions will be great: especially if Prosecutors state, "How can you account for this item being found there?" (just my thinking of possibilities)