GUILTY Australia - Kylie Maybury, 6, abducted & murdered, Preston, Vic, 6 Nov 1984

[MissUnderstood]

I feel like he found the bag at a later stage and just threw it out the window or Kylie may have dropped it when she was abducted and someone else picked it up.
Hope that had been finger printed!!!


MOO!!

 

[Fence Sitter]

Ausgirl. I would presume he was the first person checked also, but stranger things have happened. I just cannot wrap my head around the fact that he had come across what he believed to be a childs body and didnt get out of the car to even see if they were alive.

He said he stopped his car and put his head out of the window.
Or did he stop his car, kick a child to the curb and then go and find a witness to back up his story?

Certainly then if someone had said later on they saw a car stopped there that his story would add up. It couldnt be him because he stopped there and went to get help being a good samaritan!

So many perps join in on searches for their victims even going so far as to say "ill kill that scum that did this to a child" etc. Remember Daniel Morcombes Killer? I followed that case extensively and Cowan had joined the search for the kid from the CP he left for dead in the bush saying all sorts of bravado that he was going to kill the rock spider that took him.

In the case of Brooke Bennett in Arizona her Uncle joined the search and he was the one that had done unspeakable things to that poor girl and his step daughter. ETA: if you havnt followed that case then be warned its not for the faint hearted

Anyhow unless im told otherwise, then im pretty unsettled over the way she was found. Ill be more than happy to eat my words on that aswell!!

Id be interested on what other cases people are following aswell. Im on alot that are waiting for trial and am in need of some new ones to look at.

 

[MissUnderstood]

The lives of all the family surrounding Kylie sure threw some spammers in the works!! Back then it would have been a huge deal being exposed as a cross dresser!!! I think that's why grand pa killed himself, maybe the reason the uncle did to.
I'd love to be privy to what evidence they do have!


MOO!!

 

[imjustagirl123]

Ausgirl. I would presume he was the first person checked also, but stranger things have happened. I just cannot wrap my head around the fact that he had come across what he believed to be a childs body and didnt get out of the car to even see if they were alive.

He said he stopped his car and put his head out of the window.
Or did he stop his car, kick a child to the curb and then go and find a witness to back up his story?

Certainly then if someone had said later on they saw a car stopped there that his story would add up. It couldnt be him because he stopped there and went to get help being a good samaritan!

So many perps join in on searches for their victims even going so far as to say "ill kill that scum that did this to a child" etc. Remember Daniel Morcombes Killer? I followed that case extensively and Cowan had joined the search for the kid from the CP he left for dead in the bush saying all sorts of bravado that he was going to kill the rock spider that took him.

In the case of Brooke Bennett in Arizona her Uncle joined the search and he was the one that had done unspeakable things to that poor girl and his step daughter. ETA: if you havnt followed that case then be warned its not for the faint hearted

Anyhow unless im told otherwise, then im pretty unsettled over the way she was found. Ill be more than happy to eat my words on that aswell!!

Id be interested on what other cases people are following aswell. Im on alot that are waiting for trial and am in need of some new ones to look at.

Excellent post fellow sleuth!! I hope the guy in the car was checked, abili etc... Who in there right mind would come across seeing a child laying down and not stop to see what is up??

Have you a link to that other case you mentioned?

 

[Fence Sitter]

Excellent post fellow sleuth!! I hope the guy in the car was checked, abili etc... Who in there right mind would come across seeing a child laying down and not stop to see what is up??

Have you a link to that other case you mentioned?

Brooke Bennett

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67595

This is the last thread. If you follow from back at the beginning it really is so twisted. The documents available on this case blew my mind. Although it is now done and dusted it certainly opened my eyes to peoples behaviours.

 

[imjustagirl123]

Thank you very much

 

[MissUnderstood]

It says a lot that he didn't destroy Kylie's handbag, he just dumped it. Other perps would have burned it in the backyard incinerator.

I think if he wasn't going to destroy it he would keep it as a trophy type thing. I'm thinking more like he found it when he returned home or found it later in his car and got rid of it quick.


MOO!!

 

[paul1980]

Acting Det-Insp Buick said recent publicity in the Herald Sun about the unsolved 1984 rape and murder of Kylie Maybury had led to several suspects being nominated to police. He said Kylie’s killer’s DNA had been obtained from material he left on the body of the six-year-old and that DNA sample would be compared with DNA police intended getting from the newly nominated suspects as well as previously nominated suspects who hadn’t yet been DNA tested.

“A number of people were identified, not all had been identified previously, so we are pursuing those leads,” Acting Det-Insp Buick said.

“Not all the people who had been identified had had their DNA taken so we are now going through the process of who has been DNA tested and who hasn’t and then we will go about getting DNA from all those people.”

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...unsolved-murders/story-fni0fee2-1227147795872

 

[Ausgirl]

Great news, Paul!!! Wouldn't it be something, if they finally caught her killer after all this time???

The track record of the cold case unit in Melb. is just brilliant this past few years. They are dogs with a bone, and never let go.

Fingers crossed they find him, and Kylie's mum and the rest of us can see justice well and truly done.

 

[paul1980]

I'm two years younger than Kylie and IIRC until last month there wasn't much mention of her in the press that wasn't related to relatives that committed criminal or bizarre acts, usually of the "(person) was the aunt/uncle/cousin of Kylie Maybury, the six year old who was raped and murdered in Preston in 1984".

 

[Ausgirl]

Excellent post fellow sleuth!! I hope the guy in the car was checked, abili etc... Who in there right mind would come across seeing a child laying down and not stop to see what is up??

I dunno... if I was driving home late and saw what looked like a dead child in the gutter, I'd probably call 000 ASAP. Then see if the child needed immediate help breathing, if she wasn't obviously dead.

In 1984, very few people had mobile phones -- it was the home phone, or a phone box if you needed to call police.

If Kylie was, to his eyes, obviously dead then IMO he did exactly the right thing. If he'd touched her, it might have messed up evidence, and it certainly would have put his prints and dna all over the scene. And working for the fire dept, he'd probably know better.

I can understand too, someone being so traumatised by finding a little girl dead in the street that they'd want to go get somebody else, just to be there, while they waited for the cops.

I'm not saying I don't think he needs to be 100% cleared using modern tech. Just that I don't think his actions are overtly suspicious. I mean, we can say "Oh I wouldn't do that" but then how many of us have found a dead child in the street in the middle of the night?

 

[paul1980]

I've tried to get 774 ABC Melbourne interested in Kylie, but no luck. There was also a moment of uncomfortableness on their part when i mentioned some of the criminal and other not-so-nice behaviour that Kylie's relatives have got up to. I think that a child rape murder plus her noxious family members dissuade non-tabloid media from wanting to take up Kylie's cause.

 

[paul1980]

I searched the online archives of The Age. They mention Kylie briefly in an article about Mr. Cruel, and there's another brief article about the police pursuing a DNA sample from Robert Lowe and naming him as the prime suspect in killing Kylie. There was no articles from before 1992 so if The Age had any articles in the 1980s on Kylie, someone will have to look at the microfilm at the State Library of Victoria.

 

[paul1980]

Kylie's full name according to the online records of Fawkner Memorial Park where she is interred is "Kylie Maria Antonia Maybury" and her funeral service was conducted on November 12, 1984.

 

[Ausgirl]

Thanks so much Paul!

Will be in spotty attendance over Xmas period, but plan to bog into some research after.

Have a lovely holiday, all.

 

[paul1980]

I hope you can come back to Kylie's thread after Xmas, Ausgirl.

 

[paul1980]

I hate Wikipedia right now and am embroiled in a constant struggle to give Kylie a decent article there. The Wikipedia edit police removed the phrase "toy handbag" even though the phrase "handbag" by itself usually indicates the type used by adult women - toy handbags like Kylie's have Barbie or other licensed themes - Kylie's toy handbag had a Strawberry Shortcake theme.

 

[paul1980]

Fence Sitter: the police think he kept her alive/prisoner for a period and they seem to know their stuff.

Also, wouldn't a pedophile want to prolong his "fun", so swiftly killing her doesn't make sense.

 

[paul1980]

Re: the Canberra Times article: I don't know what a "carry bag" is, the nearest is "carrier bag" which would not be what is described elsewhere as a "Strawberry Shortcake purse" - and which was recovered.
I was imagining an item such as this, but there is a wide variety of SS merchandise that fits the description.
I wonder whether the bag of sugar would have fit a little girl's purse. At 90 cents it was probably a 2.2 lb bag, (then prices were Hobart: 134.0 for 2 kg = 4.4. lb, Victoria: 90 cents in 1980 for 2 kg)).

If Kylie was walking along trying to juggle the purse and the sugar bag at the same time, her killer could have offered to "help her"

 

[paul1980]

I wish there was a way to inform Kylie Maybury's mother that Kylie now has a Wikipedia article. Just seeing that photo from 1984 of poor Julie Maybury wiping away tears while TV and radio microphones are shoved at her, makes me want to cry myself.