Australia Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #20

[TootsieFootsie]

Ok I'm up to the stealing antique furniture bit.

Colour me shocked I tell ya!

Sounds like he was a wrong'un from the start.


So he never got caught for anything to do with this stealing and selling stolen goods scheme ?

 

[Housemartyn]

A very strange comment to make. Considering other women said he was not physically able to perform. Maybe because he was younger, but still a left of field comment for MC to make.

He still had singing testicles then don't forget.

 

[KathPlumber]

Yes! The amount that gets knocked off from castles, historic churches and stately homes is massive!

Like these are [more] recent examples from Hever Castle in Kent.
2003
2005
Zero implication that this is aka handiwork simply presenting example of how these joints can get knocked over pretty easy

 

[KathPlumber]

antique theft in Europe in the era before digital surveillance systems must have been like going apple picking imho. Harder to track than art, easier to fence. Jmo (IANA Antique Thief or Dealer!!)

 

[DerZuschauer]

Did she make an offhand statement about his skills in the bedroom department?

Define offhand.

 

[KiwiNZ]

The 1994 PIERRE H. DE GAYE ADVERT is still on the table for me after listening to one of the latest podcasts and AH slip up re the FNR license.
The people we found related to this name way back from the UK with links to Bali, is not the person who placed this advert - he would have been a kid when it was placed and his middle name doesn't start with H.
This advert sits with the area where AH (owned a property IMO) back in the days of Walker meats / and used in one of his documents and when his kids were swimming at Chandler.
Another ID he stole IMO

Between 1989 and 1991 there is another victim
and between 1992 and 1994 there is another victim

Any missing persons in the Ballina / Byron area at those times?

NSW Missing women -

Bronwyn WINFIELD

Bronwyn Winfield was last seen at her home in Lennox Head NSW by relatives on 16 May 1993. Her estranged husband reported her missing to police on the 27 May 1993. Bronwyn is the mother of two children, aged five and ten at the time of her dissapearance. If you have information that may assist...

www.missingpersons.gov.au

Jola Geselle

Jola Geselle, aged 42, was last seen at her Maroubra home on 14th of September 1993. Jola has not made contact or been seen by family or friends since and there are serious concerns for her welfare. If you have any information that may assist Police, please contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

www.missingpersons.gov.au

June DOYLE

June Doyle was last seen on Friday 3 January 1986 at Waitara. She left her home in the evening and has not been seen or heard from since. It is totally out of character for June not to keep in touch with her family and friends. There are fears for her safety and welfare. If you have information...

www.missingpersons.gov.au

Margaret Ryan

Margaret Ryan, aged 38, was last seen by a friend in Mullumbimby on the afternoon of 03 July 1986. Margaret has not made contact or been seen by friends or family since. Anyone with information which may assist in locating the whereabouts of Margaret is urged to call Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

www.missingpersons.gov.au

Marylin Mellon

Marilyn was last seen at Ettalong Beach on 18 May 1994. She resided in the Woy Woy area. Her family was last contacted by Marylin on 20 May 1994 from an Eastern Suburbs area. Her family have not seen or heard from her since this date and have concerns for her welfare. If you have information...

www.missingpersons.gov.au

Pauline SOWRY

Pauline Sowry (aka Lawerence) was last seen on 29 November 1992 in Warrawong. If you have information that may assist police to locate Pauline please call Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

www.missingpersons.gov.au

 

[mishy66]

NSW Missing women -

Bronwyn WINFIELD

Bronwyn Winfield was last seen at her home in Lennox Head NSW by relatives on 16 May 1993. Her estranged husband reported her missing to police on the 27 May 1993. Bronwyn is the mother of two children, aged five and ten at the time of her dissapearance. If you have information that may assist...

www.missingpersons.gov.au

Jola Geselle

Jola Geselle, aged 42, was last seen at her Maroubra home on 14th of September 1993. Jola has not made contact or been seen by family or friends since and there are serious concerns for her welfare. If you have any information that may assist Police, please contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

www.missingpersons.gov.au

June DOYLE

June Doyle was last seen on Friday 3 January 1986 at Waitara. She left her home in the evening and has not been seen or heard from since. It is totally out of character for June not to keep in touch with her family and friends. There are fears for her safety and welfare. If you have information...

www.missingpersons.gov.au

Margaret Ryan

Margaret Ryan, aged 38, was last seen by a friend in Mullumbimby on the afternoon of 03 July 1986. Margaret has not made contact or been seen by friends or family since. Anyone with information which may assist in locating the whereabouts of Margaret is urged to call Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

www.missingpersons.gov.au

Marylin Mellon

Marilyn was last seen at Ettalong Beach on 18 May 1994. She resided in the Woy Woy area. Her family was last contacted by Marylin on 20 May 1994 from an Eastern Suburbs area. Her family have not seen or heard from her since this date and have concerns for her welfare. If you have information...

www.missingpersons.gov.au

Pauline SOWRY

Pauline Sowry (aka Lawerence) was last seen on 29 November 1992 in Warrawong. If you have information that may assist police to locate Pauline please call Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

www.missingpersons.gov.au

Thanks @KiwiNZ

 

[Housemartyn]

Define offhand.

I think I meant vague..

 

[caitlincurious]

Currently listening to the opening of the latest podcast. AS sounds literally giddy with excitement at being in Brussels. Supposed to be a fact finding mission, not a bloody busmans holiday MOO

and the reporting during the "shoe incident" come on ....

How many times does poor Ghislaine have to relay her devastating story for entertainment?
Many cringing moments during this episode as mentioned above. As well as AS incessant giggling and flirting with the spotlight reporter.

It's just BS filling! shopping, coffee, shoes FFS

When did the podcast become Alison Sandy’s travel blog? Absolutely cringe listening. Alison’s giddiness really cheapened the episode. We are here to find out about Marion not follow you to the shoe shop!

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I'm having a hard time understanding MC, what with the backgroud noise, and it sounds like she's not close enough to a microphone.

I wish there was a transcript.

I'm going to try listening again, through headphones and see if that helps.

 

[Housemartyn]

I'm having a hard time understanding MC, what with the backgroud noise, and it sounds like she's not close enough to a microphone.

I wish there was a transcript.

I'm going to try listening again, through headphones and see if that helps.

Agree. So much noise much of the time though most episodes.

 

[hoodunnit]

I'm having a hard time understanding MC, what with the backgroud noise, and it sounds like she's not close enough to a microphone.

I wish there was a transcript.

I'm going to try listening again, through headphones and see if that helps.

It's not much better with headphones! I'll have to listen to it 2 or 3 times I think.

 

[HinterlandObserver]

The 1994 PIERRE H. DE GAYE ADVERT is still on the table for me after listening to one of the latest podcasts and AH slip up re the FNR license.
The people we found related to this name way back from the UK with links to Bali, is not the person who placed this advert - he would have been a kid when it was placed and his middle name doesn't start with H.
This advert sits with the area where AH (owned a property IMO) back in the days of Walker meats / and used in one of his documents and when his kids were swimming at Chandler.
Another ID he stole IMO

Between 1989 and 1991 there is another victim
and between 1992 and 1994 there is another victim

Any missing persons in the Ballina / Byron area at those times?

Not off the top of my head but we do have a few ladies in the years after.
None that immediately fall into AHs demographic that I can recall. Closest might be Ellen Wilson in 2016 who did have a mystery boyfriend friends reported but said never saw him.
Her mother recently passed and I’m not sure if situation re inheritance but lawyers posted an ad asking for any known will to be forwarded to them.
She allegedly lived above the florist in Ballina near the police station (on the other side of the block to ballina coin investments) not in goonellabah as reported. She disappeared after using an atm. Her car has also never been recovered.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I'll use my noise cancelling headphones and see if I can enhance the inaudible parts.

 

[HinterlandObserver]

NSW Missing women -

Bronwyn WINFIELD

Bronwyn Winfield was last seen at her home in Lennox Head NSW by relatives on 16 May 1993. Her estranged husband reported her missing to police on the 27 May 1993. Bronwyn is the mother of two children, aged five and ten at the time of her dissapearance. If you have information that may assist...

www.missingpersons.gov.au

Jola Geselle

Jola Geselle, aged 42, was last seen at her Maroubra home on 14th of September 1993. Jola has not made contact or been seen by family or friends since and there are serious concerns for her welfare. If you have any information that may assist Police, please contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

www.missingpersons.gov.au

June DOYLE

June Doyle was last seen on Friday 3 January 1986 at Waitara. She left her home in the evening and has not been seen or heard from since. It is totally out of character for June not to keep in touch with her family and friends. There are fears for her safety and welfare. If you have information...

www.missingpersons.gov.au

Margaret Ryan

Margaret Ryan, aged 38, was last seen by a friend in Mullumbimby on the afternoon of 03 July 1986. Margaret has not made contact or been seen by friends or family since. Anyone with information which may assist in locating the whereabouts of Margaret is urged to call Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

www.missingpersons.gov.au

Marylin Mellon

Marilyn was last seen at Ettalong Beach on 18 May 1994. She resided in the Woy Woy area. Her family was last contacted by Marylin on 20 May 1994 from an Eastern Suburbs area. Her family have not seen or heard from her since this date and have concerns for her welfare. If you have information...

www.missingpersons.gov.au

Pauline SOWRY

Pauline Sowry (aka Lawerence) was last seen on 29 November 1992 in Warrawong. If you have information that may assist police to locate Pauline please call Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

www.missingpersons.gov.au

Its believed locally Bronwyns hubby had a hand in her disappearance.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I think it's a bit rude and insensitive to refer to Monique's face as "well weathered".

I wouldn't be surprised if she felt a bit upset at that description of her.

How tactless and unnecessary.

Also quite patronising re the bit about her neighbour.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I'm so glad I tried again.
The headphones are enhancing her voice to the point I can now understand what she's saying.

So he was arrested, at the end of her relationship with him.

And that's when she realised he wasn't the man she thought he was.

 

[KiwiNZ]

Also quite patronising re the bit about her neighbour.

AS specialises in patronising IMO

 

[mishy66]

I'm so glad I tried again.
The headphones are enhancing her voice to the point I can now understand what she's saying.

So he was arrested, at the end of her relationship with him.

And that's when she realised he wasn't the man she thought he was.

After all the trips he did with her "men" while she was away, lol
And still writing letters in the early 90s


Her testimonials change as often as his aliases

 

[MrsWattle]

They definitely need to interview MC again about guns and that gang she met! Anyone a Dentist or Maz or Pierre? Can she elaborate on where these gang members were from, language, accent etc? are they Brabant gang or just bad boys looting castles involved in diamonds, jewellery, coins, antiques and rare books? Sounds like organised crime by a bunch of mafia.

Did AH say he sent a container load of " books" to Australia?. Is that his mate with the big shipping yard. Did he have a friend in the shipping business.
Where were those goods sold?

Did TSS have any thefts reported in early 1997?

Where are the Belgian, Dutch, UK, Luxembourg and Australian police and why aren't they interested in interviewing all these women victims.