Australia Australia - Novy Chardon, 34, Upper Coomera, Qld, 6 Feb 2013 #1 *Arrest*

[JCB]

Great post and I totally agree with you JCB. The fact remains though, a search warrant is not as easy to obtain as some would assume. The police have to apply to a magistrate with specific reasons why they want the search warrant and exactly where they want to search. The magistrate can, and sometimes does refuse the request, stating the reasons why.

JP's are also authorised to issue search warrants, much to the chagrin of the legal profession in QLD. Each QPS district has their favourite JP's that they call upon when they need a warrant. JP's do a fine job of course but I guarantee it's far easier to find a JP to sign off on a warrant than a Magistrate. It's been a bone of contention for some time, a large percentage of QLD lawyers believe that only Magistrates should be authorised to issue search warrants.

Even though damage was caused to his yard during the dig police are now responsible for bringing it back to what it was before they started.

You might imagine that is the case but unfortunately it is not. Unless unreasonable damage or mess occurred as a result of the search, the QPS are under no obligation to repair the property to the state it was in prior to the search (unless of course a court order compels them to do so).

 

[Good!]

Even though damage was caused to his yard during the dig police are now responsible for bringing it back to what it was before they started.

Yes, sure - but on top of that there might be a lawsuit for a long range of other related damages as well as compensation. I'm guessing / my own opinion here: If the property owner is found guilty of serious charges those damages might be partially or fully judged "self-inflicted" with no compensation given as they were a result of his own actions. Burying vehicles in your backyard IS suspicious and if it turns out they were stolen or involved in crimes then I doubt he will be offered any compensation. But maybe his strong lawyer can help him a bit here.

 

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Unfortunately my gut feeling tells me he has a desire to influence or pressurise victims (past or present) - or witnesses for that sake.

Another thought: maybe the price of silence has gone up to a level where he can't meet the demands and/or too many friendly individuals now claim their piece of the cake?
Whatever the explanation is nothing would surprise me and I guess we will know one day.

 

[JCB]

Yes, sure - but on top of that there might be a lawsuit for a long range of other related damages as well as compensation. I'm guessing / my own opinion here: If the property owner is found guilty of serious charges those damages might be partially or fully judged "self-inflicted" with no compensation given as they were a result of his own actions. Burying vehicles in your backyard IS suspicious and if it turns out they were stolen or involved in crimes then I doubt he will be offered any compensation. But maybe his strong lawyer can help him a bit here.

It's actually quite rare for damages to be awarded in relation to the execution of a search warrant, regardless of whether or not the occupant is ultimately found guilty of any offence.

Provided the warrant was obtained lawfully, meaning that there were reasonable grounds for the warrant to be issued and the search was conducted in accordance with the warrant, most of the time you will be left to your own devices to repair any damage.

 

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You might imagine that is the case but unfortunately it is not. Unless unreasonable damage or mess occurred as a result of the search, the QPS are under no obligation to repair the property to the state it was in prior to the search (unless of course a court order compels them to do so).

I think I was writing a post while you posted this You're probably right that a search warrant of this caliber isn't issued easily and just the fact it was indicates "reasonable grounds" in itself as you also mention - contradicting compensation (or at least the amount of compensation).

 

[wewillgetyou]

I was just going by what was reported on the tv news last night. They said now the digging is over the police have the task of returning the yard to its former condition.

 

[sleepinoz]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-08/firefighters-tackle-large-blaze-at-loganholme/5307920

Hope JC didn't have anything in storage.

 

[SouthAussie]

I wonder where he stores the Inox Lubricants boat that shows in the Google ad on the right. Unless he does not store it on the trailer now, and pays for a marina berth somewhere. From pics of his house, it doesn't seem that it can be stored there.

Any mention of the boat has been removed from their website - when you click on the link to the boat, the website says that the page is now gone.

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...j4&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

 

[SouthAussie]

Just putting these links to initial police pressers about Novy's disappearance here, for those that may be interested and have not seen them before.

They don't provide any of the info that we now know .. but you can see that police quite quickly were all over this case, with a lot of intensity. Much more so than in a case where a mother may have left of her own accord.

1st police press conference – 11 Feb 2013
Novy Chardon Missing Person Upper Coomera - YouTube

Missing Car Found – 11 Feb 2013
Missing mother's car found - YouTube

2nd police press conference – 12 Feb 2013
Novy Chardon Missing Person Upper Coomera UPDATE - YouTube

 

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I wonder where he stores the Inox Lubricants boat that shows in the Google ad on the right. Unless he does not store it on the trailer now, and pays for a marina berth somewhere. From pics of his house, it doesn't seem that it can be stored there.

Any mention of the boat has been removed from their website - when you click on the link to the boat, the website says that the page is now gone.

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...j4&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

Good find SA :thumb: - "Little Miss INOX" can be still be found on this website:
http://www.indianriver.cc/Inox/MX3-Marine.htm

"THE AUTHOR'S BOAT: ' Little Miss INOX ' - Quintrex 650 Offshore - !50 HP Mercury Fuel Injected Outboard and GPS sounder. This boat goes like a dream and we catch plenty of big fish with it on the local reefs off the East Coast of Australia."

 

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It seems the manufacturer has a great deal of experience with INOX used in firearms applications:
http://www.inoxmx.com/applications-uses/firearms-applications-for-inox/
http://www.indianriver.cc/Inox/MX3-Firearms.htm

 

[SouthAussie]

Good find SA :thumb: - "Little Miss INOX" can be still be found on this website:
http://www.indianriver.cc/Inox/MX3-Marine.htm

"THE AUTHOR'S BOAT: ' Little Miss INOX ' - Quintrex 650 Offshore - !50 HP Mercury Fuel Injected Outboard and GPS sounder. This boat goes like a dream and we catch plenty of big fish with it on the local reefs off the East Coast of Australia."

Thanks for finding this link, Good! So, the boat is still showing on a Florida fishing charter boat company website 'Central Florida Fishing Charter'. But it has been removed from the Inox website.

And the Inox company staff profiles have been removed from the Inox website.

For a person with nothing to hide, he sure appears to have 'hidden' a few things.

I hope that police have confiscated the boat and have given it a good going over. He had Thursday and Friday to go on a little boat ride, if he wanted to, as he didn't leave for Indonesia till Friday night apparently. And no-one even knew that Novy was missing until Saturday, when her good friend reported it to the police.

The river is very close to his house in Upper Coomera. And I imagine that the boat would be stored/berthed relatively close to his house also.

https://www.google.com.au/maps/plac...m2!3m1!1s0x6b91115812eadef3:0x502a35af3dea770

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I hope that police have confiscated the boat and have given it a good going over.

Yes, let's cross fingers they already knew of a boat in JC's possession and did a forensic search of it while JC was in Indonesia in February 2013. The thought of a boat being related to Novy's disappearance has crossed my mind a few times but unfortunately I haven't found a single mention of JC having access to a boat before your post.
:tyou:
Coomera River is indeed close to the home - yet police searched Nerang River on February 15, 2013:
"WATER police will today search the Nerang River for clues to the disappearance of Gold Coast mum Novy Chardon as detectives admit they now fear the worst. "
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...e-hunt-continues/story-e6freon6-1226578269178
Maybe the red herring worked?
It could be very interesting to know when the website was edited and what it looked like before. Unfortunately the first snapshot of www.inoxmx.com in the Wayback Machine is from September 2013: https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.inoxmx.com
Maybe it's possible to find another Internet Archive service which has older snapshots of it....

 

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Question is if that boat has ever been located - probably buried somewhere :floorlaugh:

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Question is if that boat has ever been located - probably buried somewhere :floorlaugh:

In Davey Jones' Locker? ...irate: arrot::fish:

 

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Same text here btw, even with the same typo of ! instead of 1, no photo:
"THE AUTHOR’S BOAT: ‘ Little Miss INOX ‘ – Quintrex 650 Offshore – !50 HP Mercury Fuel Injected Outboard and GPS sounder. This boat goes like a dream and we catch plenty of big fish with it on the local reefs off the East Coast of Australia."
http://www.spraymart.com.au/shop/inox-mx3-lubricant/

 

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In Davey Jones' Locker? ...irate: arrot::fish:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Jones'_Locker
Nah, too easy - a diver might stumble upon it....

 

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-08/firefighters-tackle-large-blaze-at-loganholme/5307920
Hope JC didn't have anything in storage.

Of course he did - why do you think there was a fire?
Sorry for getting a bit off topic

 

[SouthAussie]

In Davey Jones' Locker? ...irate: arrot::fish:

:floorlaugh:

It is very possible that the boat is still around somewhere (hopefully at the police yard). But Novy could be in Davey Jones' Locker, or Davey Jones' Barrel

 

[SouthAussie]

Yes, let's cross fingers they already knew of a boat in JC's possession and did a forensic search of it while JC was in Indonesia in February 2013. The thought of a boat being related to Novy's disappearance has crossed my mind a few times but unfortunately I haven't found a single mention of JC having access to a boat before your post.
:tyou:
Coomera River is indeed close to the home - yet police searched Nerang River on February 15, 2013:
"WATER police will today search the Nerang River for clues to the disappearance of Gold Coast mum Novy Chardon as detectives admit they now fear the worst. "
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...e-hunt-continues/story-e6freon6-1226578269178
Maybe the red herring worked?
It could be very interesting to know when the website was edited and what it looked like before. Unfortunately the first snapshot of www.inoxmx.com in the Wayback Machine is from September 2013: https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.inoxmx.com
Maybe it's possible to find another Internet Archive service which has older snapshots of it....

Maybe Chardon keeps his boat near/in the Nerang River? Is it a river that is more accessible to the ocean? The Coomera River looks as though it has many twists and turns before it gets to the ocean.

Also, there was mention earlier in the thread that bull sharks have been seen in the Nerang River. Possibly bull sharks don't really venture into the Coomera River? Something a fisher-person would know (sorry, I just can't call the a 'man' in any description!!) I notice in the footage of Chardon's garage that he has big fishing rods stored/hung on the wall - right above where the Jack Daniel's moped is/was - and one or more are still there in the now-emptier garage.