Australia - Russell Hill & Carol Clay Murdered While Camping - Wonnangatta Valley, 2020 #9

[drsleuth]

"This cannot be a case that falls into the worst category." - Dermot Dann

Only someone getting paid to represent the murderer in question could possibly come out with a statement like that.

Maybe someone should ask him to give an example of what is worse

 

[drsleuth]

Greg Lynn pre-sentencing live updates: Prosecutor pushes for life sentence for Carol Clay’s killer

Greg Lynn is back in court. Follow our unfolding coverage of the pre-sentence hearing live.

www.theage.com.au

1.08pm

‘Gravely troubled’ by the jury verdict: Defence​

By Erin Pearson​

Defence barrister Dermot Dann, KC, said they remained “gravely troubled” by the guilty jury verdict and raised the possibility of it being an unsafe result, with the case likely bound for the Court of Appeal.
“Apart from his version, there is no other version. We just have Mr Lynn’s version,” he told the pre-sentence hearing.

BBM : No *advertiser censored* Sherlock, the one's who could tell another version were obliterated by your client sir

ETA
“Your honour has to sentence this man on the basis that there is no motive that’s been established.”

The court is now breaking for lunch. We will resume our live coverage when the hearing begins again at 2pm.

 

[Cliff Hardy]

Greg Lynn pre-sentencing live updates: Prosecutor pushes for life sentence for Carol Clay’s killer

Greg Lynn is back in court. Follow our unfolding coverage of the pre-sentence hearing live.

www.theage.com.au

1.08pm

‘Gravely troubled’ by the jury verdict: Defence​

By Erin Pearson​

Defence barrister Dermot Dann, KC, said they remained “gravely troubled” by the guilty jury verdict and raised the possibility of it being an unsafe result, with the case likely bound for the Court of Appeal.
“Apart from his version, there is no other version. We just have Mr Lynn’s version,” he told the pre-sentence hearing.

BBM : No *advertiser censored* Sherlock, the one's who could tell another version were obliterated by your client sir

ETA
“Your honour has to sentence this man on the basis that there is no motive that’s been established.”

The court is now breaking for lunch. We will resume our live coverage when the hearing begins again at 2pm.

Lynn not only saw to it that there were no other accounts of what took place, he also destroyed every trace of the evidence of what took place.

Yet the murder Greg Lynn committed 'doesn't fall into the worst category?' - oh, please!!

 

[Cliff Hardy]

“Your honour has to sentence this man on the basis that there is no motive that’s been established” - Dermott Dan.

Lynn told us himself he was worried about losing his ASIC card and therefore his ability to fly, and the memberships to his various clubs.

If they weren't motives, what were they and why did he mentioned them????

 

[drsleuth]

Another other case I can think of as bad as this is Stephanie Scott. Vincent Stanford pleaded guilty & got life

 

[JLZ]

“Your honour has to sentence this man on the basis that there is no motive that’s been established” - Dermott Dan.

Lynn told us himself he was worried about losing his ASIC card and therefore his ability to fly, and the memberships to his various clubs.

If they weren't motives, what were they and why did he mentioned them????

If there was no motive, doesn't that push it into a 'worser' category?

 

[drsleuth]

If there was no motive, doesn't that push it into a 'worser' category?

My guess, is he is saying there is no motive, as remember, it was all one big accident. A very unfortunate incident, that GL would rather forget & just move on with his life......nothing to see here....

 

[JLZ]

My guess, is he is saying there is no motive, as remember, it was all one big accident. A very unfortunate incident, that GL would rather forget & just move on with his life......nothing to see here....

Well, the judge isn't going to sentence on the basis that the jury was wrong about the verdict.

 

[drsleuth]

It's a long lunch break

 

[changintimes]

Final snub for family of camper killed in knifefight with ex-pilot

The long suffering family of dead camper Russell Hill has been forbidden from facing former Jetstar pilot Greg Lynn in court.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Here is a hint of what appeal will launched on.

It was a submission strongly rejected by Lynn's barrister Dermot Dann, KC.

Mr Dann told Justice Croucher his client maintained his innocence and intended to appeal his conviction as soon as possible.

The court heard Mr Dann believed the jury had made a mistake in coming to its guilty verdict on Ms Clay.

The experienced barrister described their process in coming to that conclusion as a 'forbidden pathway' that had gone against Justice Croucher's own directions to them toward the end of the trial.

Mr Dann said the jury had been directed that Lynn's only motive for killing Ms Clay would have been to cover-up the murder of Mr Hill, which they found him not guilty of committing.

 

[SouthAussie]

And as we all know, no motive needs to be presented or established. That's the law. Which Mr Dann well knows.

Jury’s motive query in missing campers murder trial

The jury in the trial of Gregory Lynn have asked the judge what happens if they can’t reach a unanimous verdict.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Bats]

The court heard Mr Dann believed the jury had made a mistake in coming to its guilty verdict on Ms Clay.

The experienced barrister described their process in coming to that conclusion as a 'forbidden pathway' that had gone against Justice Croucher's own directions to them toward the end of the trial.

Mr Dann said the jury had been directed that Lynn's only motive for killing Ms Clay would have been to cover-up the murder of Mr Hill, which they found him not guilty of committing.

The verdict of "Not guilty" for the death of Russell, does not necessarily mean the jury believed Russell wasn't murdered.

IMO, the jury most probably DID believe Russell was murdered.

 

[Cliff Hardy]

Dann is really clutching at straws playing the 'no motive' card when Justice Croucher more than once instructed the jury that the prosecution did not have to establish any motive to prove an alleged murder or murders took place.

 

[SouthAussie]

Dann is really clutching at straws playing the 'no motive card' when Justice Croucher more than once instructed the jury that the prosecution did not have to establish any motive to prove an alleged murder or murders took place.

Dann doesn't care. He is getting paid, whether or not he loses his pre-sentence appeal to the judge.

He might have told his client a thousand times that there does not need to be a motive.

imo