Found Deceased Australia - Samuel Thompson, 22, Albion, Qld, 7 March 2017 *Arrests* #4

[SouthAussie]

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What still irks me, if we're all of the opinion Sam was drug dealing or money laundering, w/e, why didn't the police think the same when he, a 22yr old childcare worker reported his ($60,000-70,000) Mustang and luxury goods stolen back in Sept? It's not adding up, imo. It was a home invasion crime too which is extremely suspicious.



http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...t/news-story/8eee96e337f56fffa7f9f8c1bb2f32b7

This is from an old article about home invasions increasing since 2013 especially on the Gold Coast.

Is it because Sam didn't fit the profile? There is more to this imo, and it does stem back to the robbery and what the police noted back then. This couldn't have been investigated as a run-of-the-mill theft of a car, so why was Sam able to continue his illegal activities? UNLESS, he was able to prove on paper a legitimate reason for the money which enabled him to buy an expensive car and accessories. Police don't just take your word for it, believe me, they don't.

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In the longer presser interview that JLZ posted, a reporter asked the Inspector if Sam could have been a police informant. The Inspector sort of chuckled and said 'No .... but I couldn't tell you that even if he was'.

The Inspector also said there were at least 20 regular detectives, and many other resources, on the case ... which included 21 police from one area, 21 police from another area, at least 10 or 11 homicide detectives, and a whole range of other researchers and specialists involved in the case. Pretty much right from the get-go.

 

[Karinna]

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What still irks me, if we're all of the opinion Sam was drug dealing or money laundering, w/e, why didn't the police think the same when he, a 22yr old childcare worker reported his ($60,000-70,000) Mustang and luxury goods stolen back in Sept? It's not adding up, imo. It was a home invasion crime too which is extremely suspicious.



http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...t/news-story/8eee96e337f56fffa7f9f8c1bb2f32b7

This is from an old article about home invasions increasing since 2013 especially on the Gold Coast.

Is it because Sam didn't fit the profile? There is more to this imo, and it does stem back to the robbery and what the police noted back then. This couldn't have been investigated as a run-of-the-mill theft of a car, so why was Sam able to continue his illegal activities? UNLESS, he was able to prove on paper a legitimate reason for the money which enabled him to buy an expensive car and accessories. Police don't just take your word for it, believe me, they don't.

Yes exactly, very good points PrimeSuspect.

 

[Karinna]

I'm thinking if police mentioned RB & AD as "unsavory characters" and they knew they were doing drugs they would of been busted/raided at some stage? Did they have any priors for drug offences? If that's what police meant by unsavory characters?

 

[SouthAussie]

The Inspector, in the presser, also said that this whole range of police would stay on the case for months, if required.

Perhaps now that Sam is found some will drop away, but that is one hell of a lot of police on the case of one missing person.

I think people need to really think about that. It is almost unheard of before.

Sam was not the Prime Minister's son, or some special diamond (though he was to his family, I'm sure). Why all the resources? What else is/was at stake here?

Was he an informant that could have done real harm if he was being held by someone, and was not killed?
And as he was killed, did he give up some sensitive information? Was that tortured out of him? (body parts)

The Inspector made me wonder because his chuckle was so out of place. Perhaps an exaggerated way of saying 'of course not, what a dumb question' when maybe the answer is really 'yes'? He didn't chuckle at any other dumb question.

 

[possumheart]

I'm thinking if police mentioned RB & AD as "unsavory characters" and they knew they were doing drugs they would of been busted/raided at some stage? Did they have any priors for drug offences? If that's what police meant by unsavory characters?

They didn't even know where Sam was at that stage. They were generalising. If they had arrested them they wouldn't be calling for public help still.

 

[slinkyminx73]

For whatever reason Sam's dad stated that in the presser & no one here really knows why? And for what reason? They were random questions asked of Sam's dad by the press.
It still doesn't alter the fact for me that nothing has been officially stated that Sam had ill gotten money through drugs. <modsnip> And until further charges are brought in regard to that, which may or may not be a fact no one knows.
And i personally don't care as to what Sam's family do with his vehicle, as far as i'm concerned it's none of our business. IMO.

Nothing is 'random' in a press conference..... EVER. LE would have provided boundaries for the press and the family.


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[SouthAussie]

The press were really digging at the Inspector in the presser, trying to find out why there were so many police resources on this case.
It was interesting watching that part, and I may watch it again later to see what further vibe I get from it.

 

[Karinna]

They didn't even know where Sam was at that stage. They were generalising. If they had arrested them they wouldn't be calling for public help still.

I actually wondered before Sam was found the police stated in early MSM reports they were very concerned Sam had met with foul play. The unsavory character statement came in early in the piece as well.
My question was were RB & AD already known to police previous to this crime? Did they have any previous run ins with the police? So could they both of already been known to police before Sam's murder for some other criminal activity?

 

[slinkyminx73]

The Inspector, in the presser, also said that this whole range of police would stay on the case for months, if required.

Perhaps now that Sam is found some will drop away, but that is one hell of a lot of police on the case of one missing person.

I think people need to really think about that. It is almost unheard of before.

Sam was not the Prime Minister's son, or some special diamond (though he was to his family, I'm sure). Why all the resources? What else is/was at stake here?

Was he an informant that could have done real harm if he was being held by someone, and was not killed?
And as he was killed, did he give up some sensitive information? Was that tortured out of him? (body parts)

The Inspector made me wonder because his chuckle was so out of place. Perhaps an exaggerated way of saying 'of course not, what a dumb question' when maybe the answer is really 'yes'? He didn't chuckle at any other dumb question.

'Chuckles' or unintended smiling can be a trigger from uneasiness or a hidden truth and an attempt to hide it..... lots of ppl have tics.
Depends on the timing and the rest of the interview how the interviewee answers other truth questions.


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[SouthAussie]

'Chuckles' or unintended smiling can be a trigger from uneasiness or a hidden truth and an attempt to hide it..... lots of ppl have tics.
Depends on the timing and the rest of the interview how the interviewee answers other truth questions.


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Yes, that is exactly what I thought, too. As I said above, I am going to re-watch at some point soon - see how I feel about it on a subsequent review.

Being an informant is certainly one darn good reason for all of the police resources thrown at this case so quickly.
I wonder would they be looking for a missing dealer this hard and urgently?

A journo did ask if Sam could be being held somewhere. And the Inspector said anything is possible. They would rather that than the alternative result (for foul play).

 

[Coldpizza]

Folks please don't post full physical addresses here. The parents of AD have no doubt been harassed enough and WS doesn't need to help.

Also, when posting images please give credit to the original source per copyright rules, and when stating fact please provide an MSM link.

Thanks

 

[possumheart]

Yes, that is exactly what I thought, too. As I said above, I am going to re-watch at some point soon - see how I feel about it on a subsequent review.

Being an informant is certainly one darn good reason for all of the police resources thrown at this case so quickly.
I wonder would they be looking for a missing dealer this hard and urgently?

A journo did ask if Sam could be being held somewhere. And the Inspector said anything is possible. They would rather that than the alternative result (for foul play).

I thought that near the end he made a quick reference to the Operation too, though not by name. Assuming he meant Oscar Decimal.

 

[Horror]

The press were really digging at the Inspector in the presser, trying to find out why there were so many police resources on this case.
It was interesting watching that part, and I may watch it again later to see what further vibe I get from it.

Thanks South Aus for those 2 longer posts about the press I think I missed the long one where they asked about informant, that's very interesting.


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[SouthAussie]

I, for one, and am enjoying the more detailed sleuthing that is happening now. Without rehashing old questions that have been investigated as far as we have been able to do. But looking at the more finite details in a new way. Even if our hands are somewhat tied by the hotline.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

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In the longer presser interview that JLZ posted, a reporter asked the Inspector if Sam could have been a police informant. The Inspector sort of chuckled and said 'No .... but I couldn't tell you that even if he was'.

The Inspector also said there were at least 20 regular detectives, and many other resources, on the case ... which included 21 police from one area, 21 police from another area, at least 10 or 11 homicide detectives, and a whole range of other researchers and specialists involved in the case. Pretty much right from the get-go.

This blows me away SA and explains a lot! Poor Sam, was in over his head. :cry:

 

[SouthAussie]

This blows me away SA and explains a lot! Poor Sam, was in over his head. :cry:

Yes, I have a feeling that he was, Prime. And that the police may have felt a certain responsibility for that. They may have thrown everything that they could throw at it to try to resolve the situation, but it was too late.

It may be that lots of the trial info is suppressed, accordingly.

I guess we will have to wait and see.

 

[slinkyminx73]

This blows me away SA and explains a lot! Poor Sam, was in over his head. :cry:

Without further details - it would seem so from info we have at hand [emoji17]


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[Karinna]

I, for one, and am enjoying the more detailed sleuthing that is happening now. Without rehashing old questions that have been investigated as far as we have been able to do. But looking at the more finite details in a new way. Even if our hands are somewhat tied by the hotline.

I agree, but sometimes it's good to go back and rehash to see things in a different light IMO.

 

[Karinna]

Yes, I have a feeling that he was, Prime. And that the police may have felt a certain responsibility for that. They may have thrown everything that could throw at it to try to resolve the situation, but it was too late.

It may be that lots of the trial info is suppressed, accordingly.

I guess we will have to wait and see.

So this from Sam maybe? being an informant?

 

[Horror]

Yes, I have a feeling that he was, Prime. And that the police may have felt a certain responsibility for that. They may have thrown everything that could throw at it to try to resolve the situation, but it was too late.

It may be that lots of the trial info is suppressed, accordingly.

I guess we will have to wait and see.

I am really swinging to what your saying tonight. And 40 seems a lot straight away unless there was something in car when found ? But i am wondering do they normally announce how many are working a case ? I am thinking if they don't normally say it maybe that's normal amount ? I have no idea obviously


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