Australia - Siege/Ambush at Remote Property - 6 Dead Including 2 Police/Neighbor - Wieambilla (Queensland)

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I was simply thinking it was about confidential SERTS operations, or not wanting to expose limitations with the Constables actions and choices on day etc.

“It is hard to imagine just what evidence the Commissioner does not want to make public. Cairns News is of the opinion this concealed evidence could reveal certain police involvement in criminal activities.”

 
I was simply thinking it was about confidential SERTS operations, or not wanting to expose limitations with the Constables actions and choices on day etc.

“It is hard to imagine just what evidence the Commissioner does not want to make public. Cairns News is of the opinion this concealed evidence could reveal certain police involvement in criminal activities.”

To some degree, is the request for secrecy greater than what they want kept secret.
Oh how I wish some of our former LE on WS pipe in.
I think I want to know more of WHT than WHAT.
 
I found a list of the findings required from the Inquest listing:-


Wieambilla deaths; Dare, Alan Thomas Brendon; McCrow, Rachel Clare; Arnold, Matthew Joseph; Train, Gareth Daniel; Train, Nathaniel Charles and Train, Stacey Jane

The findings required by s. 45(2) of the Coroners Act 2003, namely the identity of each deceased person, when, where and how the person died, and what caused the person’s death; and
1.Consideration of the circumstances which led to the attendance of Constables Arnold, McCrow, Kirk and Brough at 251 Wains Road, Wieambilla on 12 December 2022, including:
a.The circumstances of Nathaniel Train’s unlawful entry into Queensland at Talwood in December 2021 and the adequacy of the subsequent police investigation.

b.The circumstances surrounding the issuing and broadcasting of a missing person’s report in relation to Nathaniel Train by the New South Wales Police Force in November and December 2022, including whether New South Wales Police Force officers acted in accordance with the relevant policies and procedures.
c.The information communicated by the New South Wales Police Force to the Queensland Police Service in the lead up to 12 December 2022, and the effect that that information had on the decision to send the four officers to the Wains Road property on 12 December 2022.
d.Consideration of the circumstances in Chinchilla and Tara police stations on 12 December 2022 which resulted in the decision for the four officers to attend the Wains Road property on the day and at the time they did.
2.Consideration of the circumstances surrounding the decision of Constables Arnold, McCrow, Kirk and Brough to enter the Wains Road property.
3.Consideration of the circumstances surrounding the fatal shooting of Constables Arnold and McCrow, including:
a.Who fired the shots that killed Constables Arnold and McCrow.
b.What guns and ammunition were used and whether they were obtained lawfully.
c.Whether Constables Arnold, McCrow, Kirk and Brough were adequately equipped and trained to respond to the incident.
4.Consideration of the circumstances surrounding the fatal shooting of Alan Dare, including:
a.Why Mr Dare attended at the Wains Road property and what information he had at the time of his attendance.
b.Who fired the shot(s) that killed Mr Dare.
c.What gun(s) and ammunition were used and whether they were obtained lawfully.
5.The adequacy and appropriateness of the Queensland Police Service response to the incident, other than the response by the Special Emergency Response Team, including:
a.Whether the Queensland Police Service communication system was adequate.
b.Whether the advice given to Constables Kirk and Brough was appropriate.
c.Whether the Queensland Police Service Command and Control of the response to the incident, including communications about the incident to the Wieambilla community, was adequate and appropriate.
d.Whether the actions of the Queensland Police Service recovery and extraction team were appropriate.
6.Consideration of the circumstances leading up to the shooting of Gareth Train, Stacey Train and Nathaniel Train by Queensland Police Service Special Emergency Response Team operatives, including whether the actions of the responding operatives were appropriate in the circumstances.
7.Consideration of the profiles and motivations of Gareth Train, Stacey Train and Nathaniel Train.
8.Whether anything was known to the authorities that would have indicated a risk that Gareth Train, Stacey Train and Nathaniel Train would act in the way they did on 12 December 2022, including the Queensland Police Service response to firearm related calls for service and investigations in the vicinity of the Wains Road property prior to 12 December 2022.
9.Whether any changes to procedures or policies could reduce the likelihood of deaths occurring in similar circumstances or otherwise contribute to public health and safety.
Yes
 
I contacted the Queensland Coroners Court this morning, and they said at this stage they do not intend to live stream this case, which is a real shame considering the huge amount of public interest.
 

Podcast revisits the Wieambilla shootings that left six people dead​

A new podcast has been launched by the creators of Hannah’s Story, the award-winning audio series on the 2020 murders of Hannah Clarke and her three children.

The Ultimate Sacrifice, led by Nine News Queensland presenter Melissa Downes and producer Jessica Lodge, will examine how a seemingly routine callout led to Australia’s deadliest police shooting.
 

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