Found Deceased Australia - Stephanie Scott, 26, Leeton, NSW, 5 April 2015 - #2 *Arrests*

[thylacine7]

I know how you feel fruity, but as a dad who's been cripplingly (is that a word??) changed since becoming such. I now find myself sobbing at child-related articles I may've skimmed in the past. I regularly (daily?) struggle with intrusive thoughts of something bad happening to my kids (yay for history of anxiety making things infinitely worse), but occasionally I ponder on how it might feel were they the perpetrator rather than the victim.

Totally agree with all the sympathy for the family, they're victims of a different kind in all of this.

"We Need To Talk About Kevin" was chilling to say the least. I only saw the film but it was brilliantly done by all involved, and very true to the world as it is today.

 

[White light]

Agreed. Totally sensationalised in regards to his gaming habits. Hes not the only person in the world thats played these games!

Im not surprised about the info coming out about possibly being Autistic or having some sort of mental incapacity though.

Agreed not surprised at all. Think there will be more to come about his mental health and in the court trial.

 

[possumheart]

I, too, was mesmerised by 'We Need to Talk About Kevin'. I preferred the book to the movie. If you haven't read it, do consider it.

 

[Ausgirl]

I think the media really needs to lay off his family, too. Who on the heck cares how many cats they had? How's THAT relevant, report-worthy news? FFS. The state of msm has been in a rapid decline3 for some years now... but this past couple of years, they've sunk to whole new levels.

And hey - didn't I say back in thread 1 somewhere, there'd be an autism diagnosis?

Now, I am not disparaging anyone who genuinely has autism here, please don't anyone think so.

But how many Asbergers/autistic (or claims to be autistic...) killer cases have we had here, recently? Remember when they all were bipolar, then all had the "warrior gene" and/or ADHD.... And let's not forget Gable Tostee (aka Eric Thomas)'s completely false "diagnosis" of autism (there's still people thinking he has it, when the court reported he did not. One up for publicity mongering, I suppose..). Yet another 'popular' catch-all diagnosis that is made too often in a hurry, and in response to a range of behaviours that could have a jillion other causes. Sorry for the rant, but how many cases like this are we are going to see, before they discover the next condition that gets trotted out in defense of every second young, male murderer.

And to be fair, the parents may genuinely think these young men are autistic (thanks to kneejerk diagnosis), but they're NOT. So whatever they actually have goes untreated... so no surprise that things go pear shaped when they grow up.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Anika S. we haven't only to admire for having found the crime scene side by side with police, but also for living as a single mother over many years and as the main breadwinner, with twins (!) and an older son, in summary 3 boys (!), one boy authistic in addition (!), no father available for weekend visiting and helpful co-education, working as a nurse (!), with sure never enough money - shall I go on.

Having seen a pic of A and L to look at, my empathy is growing. Having read about A's tentatively fate (and V's, L's, M's fate also), my empathy is even more growing. I think, it's not sooo wrong to tell us (me) something through media. I wished, we would miss all mistakes/falsehoods, but that seems to be not as easy as I think.

 

[Freya1977]

I can't believe that someone in that link is taking a photo of Stephanie's father as he spends time looking at photos and the cards and flowers left at the school!!! Really???

So is the person who took the photo you were looking at in the news.

 

[Rainbowsmagic]

News is news. It would be nice to think that media outlets would let people grieve in peace, but it just doesn't seem to work that way does it? However, when someone deems it of value to take a photo of someone grieving as a personal momento of the occasion... Sorry, but I think that's a totally different kettle of fish!

 

[Deleted member 102539]

If at all it took place a great "joyful" celebration in honor of Stephanie (in Germany almost unthinkable), then I think it's okay to take pictures of their not crying but very controlled parents and the (sometimes crying) Aaron.
The camera was perhaps not as close as it looks in the photo of Stephanie's parents at the fence.

The poor parents in their own trauma maintain posture and I feel sorry for them, but admire them at the same time.
I am pleased to have seen photos.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

O/T

http://www.freenet.de/finanzen/microsoft-will-gezielt-autisten-anwerben_4834496_4710976.html

Google translation:

Tue April 07 18:02:21 CEST 2015 - 18:02:21 EDT Tue April 07 2015 Clock

The US company Microsoft has launched a program to recruit people with autism. "People with autism bring strengths that we need at Microsoft," Microsoft's executive vice president Mary Ellen Smith recently wrote in the company's blog. "Every individual is different, some have an incredible ability to store information, ponder on a detailed and profound level or they are outstanding in mathematics or programming," Smith added.

These talents would exploit the company, wrote Microsoft's executive vice president, whose 19-year-old son is autistic itself. As part of the new pilot program, people will be recruited with autistic disorder for the company's headquarters in Redmond, Washington. Its partners in the project is Specialisterne that targeted people with autism taught to make their special skills available to the market. The German software giant SAP has long been working with Specialisterne to deal with autistic as a programmer, software tester and specialists for data quality assurance.

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https://sixdegreesofharmony.wordpress.com/2015/04/08/our-aspergers-diagnosis-welcome-to-holland/

Our Asperger’s diagnosis – “Welcome to Holland”

Things happened very quickly and I found myself being prepped for an emergency section and within minutes I was introduced to my 9lb, angry, son.

He was very angry. And nothing soothed him. Certainly not being held; that just made him worse.

As time passed, he remained angry. He hated being touched and after I fed him he would inch away from me rather than remain in my arms which was heart breaking.
.......

 

[Smegal]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ength-rejected-army-psychological-issues.html

"The first photograph of Stephanie Scott's accused murderer has emerged as his former boss revealed his colleagues nicknamed him 'King Kong' on account of his abnormal strength and copious body hair.

Vincent Stanford, who weighed 110 kg, was so strong he could lift two huge wooden crates with one hand and did not feel the cold wearing only a T-shirt even in minus 10 degrees."

 

[Smegal]

I hope I quoted the above correctly. Is it usual for people with autism to have extraordinary strength? And not feel cold? I haven't heard of that before; could it be another disorder?

 

[YidArmyRach]

Worth pointing out that (a) he didn't attack any children, and (b) as far as we know has no fetish with regards to them. Active paedophiles are somewhat uncommon, and quite frankly a school cleaner that works outside of school hours when children typically aren't present probably isn't the biggest risk in the world. He could have worked in a hundred different jobs that would have given him greater access to more adult women than a school and would require no background checks (e.g. a call centre). Perspective required.

I wasn't suggesting he was a paedophile, and never mentioned that!! My comment alluded to the fact that if someone needed to move to a new country to cover up their past, then the past must be pretty bad - and that person shouldn't be around children. I wasn't even considering it was to do with sexual offences, but if someone was violent, or did hard drugs for example, then I wouldn't want them anywhere near children.

I work in a school myself, and new laws state that if anyone in my home has a criminal record (even if the offence occurred before I met them) then that could mean that I could no longer do my job. Staff at schools have lost jobs due to husbands having a conviction for ghb for example, and I think there was a lady who was at risk of losing her job because her son had a conviction and still lived with her. That is why I said that someone with a bad past shouldn't be anywhere near a school/children, because if the pasts of staff members' families are now taken into account, I would expect the same to be done of cleaners and anyone working in a school.

And cleaners frequently come into contact with children. Schools don't just shut their doors at 3pm - often there will be sports practices, homework clubs, extra lessons, rehearsals for school plays and even detentions taking place, and the cleaners will work around them.

 

[fruity]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ength-rejected-army-psychological-issues.html

"The first photograph of Stephanie Scott's accused murderer has emerged as his former boss revealed his colleagues nicknamed him 'King Kong' on account of his abnormal strength and copious body hair.

Vincent Stanford, who weighed 110 kg, was so strong he could lift two huge wooden crates with one hand and did not feel the cold wearing only a T-shirt even in minus 10 degrees."

lol of course DM found it! It looks to be very old since he is described as being nearly bald now. I wouldn't have thought he and Marcus were identical but I don't have much to go on.

 

[fruity]

re feeling the cold - it can be related to body fat and high blood pressure. I'm sure there are other reasons too. My in laws (not thin and both have high blood pressure) don't put their heater on even in the middle of winter and it makes it so hard for us to visit, especially since I feel the cold intensely (I have Raynauds).

 

[fruity]

Dr Google tells me that people with schizophrenia can have altered perceptions of temperature. It would make sense that someone with autism might have similar misperceptions based on the way that some people in the spectrum experience things differently (hypersensitive or desensitised to some things).

 

[Phil23]

Snipped by me.

You can't just walk into a school, turn the computer on and use it. You have to log in with your personal username and password and only teachers or students with the department have that. He was not employed by the department, so he would not have a username and would not be able to use the computer.

Couldn't resist not replying...
My 10 year old son used to say "My friend C##### just logs on with his mum's password". (Mum was a Deputy Principal).

Just reminded me how secure some passwords can be.

Of no real relevance here.

Cheers.:thinking:

 

[YidArmyRach]

Couldn't resist not replying...
My 10 year old son used to say "My friend C##### just logs on with his mum's password". (Mum was a Deputy Principal).

Just reminded me how secure some passwords can be.

Of no real relevance here.

Cheers.:thinking:

I used to work at the same school that my sons went to and, once he had finished there, my second eldest admitted that his mates had all been jealous that he could log onto Youtube and Facebook in ICT lessons, as he'd guessed my password!

 

[Angeline]

I'm still struggling to understand why he attacked Stephanie. Yes we know he was strange but apart from attacking a teacher when he was 9, it seems like he hasn't got a record of attacking random people? Maybe there's more to come out.

 

[Xantara]

Didnt a neighbour in Leeton who had seen the fb pic of the twin brother, confirm that vs and the twin look very much alike. I think they just said that vs might be a little bit heftier.

 

[Eloise]

http://http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/stephanie-scott-death-principal-denies-claims-vincent-stanford-attacked-his-teacher-20150415-1mllod.html

The Dutch principal of the school Vincent was apparently expelled from denies Daily Mail's claims.