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Former lead detective on William Tyrrell case calls for public inquiry

Gary Jubelin, who was lead detective on the William Tyrrell case until he was dumped over a misconduct investigation in 2019, questioned the tactics used by NSW detectives.
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Ex lead cop on the disappearance of toddler William Tyrrell slams police for 'singling out' one person and calls for a new public inquiry into the investigation​

 
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Do people ever sit back and truly wonder why the FMC got in her mum's vehicle that morning to go down to the riding school? Could a 3-year-old, whose not a 'wanderer' be capable of walking a straight line down to the corner of Benaroon Drive, intelligently, and then take a right and walk down the riding school in a spiderman suit with no one seeing him in such a short period of time? Of course not, it's fanciful and so far-fetched, the stuff of Hollywood.

I've said it before I don't feel the FMC disposed of William, I don't think she'd be capable. I'm surprised that Laidlaw has only her as POI, I don't believe the jumping from the balcony theory. However, if I'm to believe 7:37 am is the last proof of life, then I feel that driving down to the riding school was to get rid of the sandals that remained on the deck in the photos.

Btw, just to clarify, it wasn't Mr. Jubelin who suddenly decided he needed to interview the carers in 2016, it was a direction from the coroner.
 
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Gary Jubelin book extract: The spotlight is focused on William Tyrrell’s foster mother​

In late 2021 the William Tyrrell case is ramped up with a new dig to take place in the search for his body, but something does not feel right to Gary Jubelin as things become personal.

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InFocus said:
Thanks for paraphrasing the article SA

I notice though you didn't mention what Sup Doherty said which above everything is the most important, that is:

The NSW Police Force said their only focus and the only thing that matters to them is William and that they stand by their investigation and the current coronial process.

Let's just remind ourselves and Mr. Jubelin about being careful before the facts are presented and mention 2 people; Spedding and Savage. There was not a single fact that pointed to Spedding or Savage's involvement, two innocent men in William's disappearance, have since gone on to sue the State of NSW. Mr. Jubelin didn't have the decency to even apologize publicly to both of them.

Even when Spedding presented the receipt for coffee it was Jubelin's team who ignored the truth (fact) of what Spedding was telling them in regards to his movements on the morning of September 12th.

The FM is not a target because she supports him, that is ridiculous, the stuff of fairytales. The FM is a POI because of the many holes in the bucket of her story and timeline. Holes which it appears Mr. Jubelin failed to plug given the current direction by Laidlaw and Co have taken.

Again, was it 10:30 am or 10:10 am, why wasn't that discrepancy brought up by Mr Jubelin when he took over the case? Why did he allow the 10:30 am narrative to continue for years? <modsnip: No approved source for this information stated as fact>

Why didn't Mr. Jubelin ever find those 2 cars in the street?

There's no leaking to the press, the press is reporting on the carers separate to William because it's newsworthy. The public wants to know and should know.

Wasn't it 2GB's Chris Smith who said they were upstanding citizens? How's that going, with all these other charges before the court? They're no different to you or I as members of the public. I question the timing of this article given it's so close to September 12th and Mr. Jubelin is a paid consultant of the Daily Telegraph. Where's Insight Communications disappeared to?

In my opinion, at this current rate, I foreshadow that it may just be Laidlaw landing the final blows! ;)
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Do you have a link to your stated facts? I don’t believe Savage has gone ahead with a case yet? Also where was it said Jubelin and his team ignored the receipt? Im not sure what insight communications have to do with solving this case?
 
InFocus said:
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Btw, just to clarify, it wasn't Mr. Jubelin who suddenly decided he needed to interview the carers in 2016, it was a direction from the coroner.
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Do you have a link for the coroner giving a direction to police to conduct the 2016 interview of the carers? It had been my understanding that the reason for this 'interrogation' was that GJ finally succumbed to pressure from team members who believed the fosters had not been scrutinized closely enough.
 
InFocus said:
Btw, just to clarify, it wasn't Mr. Jubelin who suddenly decided he needed to interview the carers in 2016, it was a direction from the coroner.
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Could we please have an approved link to your source of this information. As I am not sure that is true. It seems that it could be yet another rumour.

According to CO's book, Jubes did the 2016 interviews with FM & FD at the request of his bosses. Because he was campaigning NSW Premier Mike Baird and NSW Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione for the $1,000,000 reward.


".... but there was one thing that Detective Jubelin's bosses needed to know. Was Detective Jubelin absolutely, 100 percent sure that William's parents and foster parents were in the clear?

He was sure. The movements of William's biological parents had been verified by CCTV and phone usage. They had never been reunited with William, and nor had anyone in their circle. The story being told by the foster parents had likewise never changed. It matched the foster nana's story, and Lindsay's story. The foster parents had turned over laptops and phones and diaries. Their movements could be corroborated by CCTV and things like the receipt from the cattery.

Detective Jubelin nonetheless agreed to interview the foster parents again."


Source: Missing William Tyrrell by Caroline Overington, Chapter 7
 
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Re the 2 cars parked in the street - were they there, or weren't they? Did FM really see them, or was that untrue? I have no idea, but it occurs to me that it is possible that when being questioned, FM may have panicked, felt that she was being seen as guilty, and made up the 2 cars just to take the heat off her. Lying about the cars (if she did) doesn't make her guilty of anything, IMO.
 
InFocus said:
Btw, just to clarify, it wasn't Mr. Jubelin who suddenly decided he needed to interview the carers in 2016, it was a direction from the coroner.
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Jubelin says in today's Daily Telegraph that he was persuaded to re-interview the FP's by a fellow detective who raised a number of inconsistencies in the FM's statements, such as the question of shoes on William and the cars the FM claimed to have seen.
 
InFocus said:
Btw, just to clarify, it wasn't Mr. Jubelin who suddenly decided he needed to interview the carers in 2016, it was a direction from the coroner.
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I don’t think this is accurate ???? Happy to be incorrect if you can quote your source ….

The Inquest wasn’t ordered until 4 years after William went missing, in 2018….whereas that interview was in September 2016…..(2 years prior to the inquest being referred to the Coroner….)

The move to refer one of Australia's most baffling mysteries to the coroner was made by detectives last September, on the 4th anniversary of the little boy’s disappearance from his grandmother’s yard in Kendall on the New South Wales mid North Coast.
The inquest will begin March 25, 2019.


The Directions Hearing for the Inquest was held on December 19, 2018.

An inquest directions hearing into the disappearance of William Tyrrell has opened in Sydney with the hearing being told police are still following "active leads" in the case.

This article was published in December 2018.

www.9news.com.au

Police still chasing ‘active leads’ in William Tyrrell case

The three-year-old boy disappeared from his grandmother’s front yard more than four years ago.
www.9news.com.au www.9news.com.au
 
JBowie said:
Jubelin says in today's Daily Telegraph that he was persuaded to re-interview the FP's by a fellow detective who raised a number of inconsistencies in the FM's statements, such as the question of shoes on William and the cars the FM claimed to have seen.
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I think that fellow detective was DSC Louise Currey. Jubes had her present and assisting with the FP 2016 interviews.

Source: Missing William Tyrrell by Caroline Overington, Chapter 7
 
InFocus said:
Welcome back LA, just to refresh what you've previously said on here:

"Yes her name is Margaret. IMO there is nothing she wouldn’t cover up for him. I’m not saying she knew what he may have been up to but she could have been having coffee with a friend and agreed to say it was him?"

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Australia - Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sep 2014 - #71

. And then there is this 'friend' who apparently did not testify at the inquest that they saw (or were with) BS at the assembly. BBM Cafe manager Lisa, who did not wish to give her last name, said she recognised Mr Spedding and his wife but could not confirm when they had visited the cafe...
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So it's okay to trash-talk Margaret Spedding on here? When it's been proven that Bill Spedding had nothing to do with William's disappearance. Do you still want to run with the Spedding narrative as to his involvement, I'm very curious. Savage I believe is in the process of suing the State Of NSW.

What has Insight got to do with solving this case, I never suggested they're key to solving it. I just asked where they were. However, they still run the narrative abduction narrative, don't they? In fact, 7 long years, 11 months and 24 days since he was abducted the FB post said today. Whilst on Insight, there was a slip up on here a while ago when someone, (I won't name them) placed themselves at the Inquest sighting Insight Communications being there too. They quickly deleted their post, conveniently. Alice in Wonderland once fell down the rabbit hole, didn't she? Rookie mistake on both counts ;)

As Agent Scully once said " The TRUTH is OUT there but so are the LIES!
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I don't think it is any secret that they were at the inquest at all.

Lovely ladies IMO :)
 
JMO, and BBM – I interpret the Lying Charge involving FFC to mean that …… she knowingly gave false or misleading evidence which related to William’s disappearance which has been extracted from the following link.

“The foster mother of William Tyrrell is pleading not guilty to a charge of knowingly giving false or misleading evidence during a hearing about the boy’s disappearance, her lawyer says.”
https://www.news.com.au/national/ns...e/news-story/b45311aa9d49dffe32d5f2e680b87618
 
Couldbe said:
JMO, and BBM – I interpret the Lying Charge involving FFC to mean that …… she knowingly gave false or misleading evidence which related to William’s disappearance which has been extracted from the following link.

“The foster mother of William Tyrrell is pleading not guilty to a charge of knowingly giving false or misleading evidence during a hearing about the boy’s disappearance, her lawyer says.”
https://www.news.com.au/national/ns...e/news-story/b45311aa9d49dffe32d5f2e680b87618
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There is probably a 100% chance that the Supreme Court Caselaw is accurate about the details of the 'lying' charge. imo


.... knowingly giving false or misleading evidence to the New South Wales Crime Commission. That evidence involved answers to questions denying the assault which was the subject of the charge laid against her in the Local Court.

Nationwide News Pty Ltd v JS and SD - NSW Caselaw

www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au
 
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