Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #64

[Rumination1]

It means she has reason to hide it, it could be for a few reasons, possibly because she used that drive and that time to hide something, it could also be because she had been searching for William for longer than she wanted to admit to police and her husband. It throws the entire timeline right off too, which only adds to the complications of the response.

If she only admitted the drive after the truck driver came forward and said he saw her, well that makes it even worse.

What I’ve been thinking about is if there was bush as the end of the lane
A) IMO I d run up there if I were mum hiding something
B) william could have run up there and got lost or been snatched
C) a potential abductor could have lurked there on foot
D) why did FF run up there and search resulting in him being ticked off by police

also I came across an old article pointing out the empty house next door was suspicious

I have screenshot but can’t see how to attach

 

[Tigerlily75]

'Look I think where I need to leave it Ben, is the team are looking for evidence within the search area which supports a line of inquiry not previously explored by homicide investigators, we are there to find evidence, if we find evidence that, that, that supports charging a person with an indictable offense in William's disappearance then that prosecution will be pursued. Anything that we find at that scene gets catalogued and obviously Harriet Graham is being updated almost daily on the progress.'

Assistant Commissioner, Stuart Smith.

Ben Fordham Live - Friday, 26th November - 2GB

So, even though FM left out the part about driving FGMs car that morning in various discussions, the possibility that she used that opportunity wasn't previously explored, which they are doing now.

Yes, I’ve been left with the terrible feeling, and this is just speculation but was supported by recent comments by GJ, that previous detectives only considered that it might be both of them, or none them.

It feels like this is the first time a detective/team has really considered the possibility that it could be just one of them, and the other didn’t know.

I mean, I myself was confused when they implied one POI out of the two parents.

Clearly I am not privy to the investigation, so I cannot say that with any kind of certainty at all, but GJ using the bugged car as an example of “clearing” the parents has really, really bothered me. Obviously nothing is going to come of that bugged car if it was FFC and MFC has no clue.

IMO

 

[centred]

William Tyrrell's foster grandmother's police statement to inquest revealed | Daily Mail Online

For those who have not gleaned FGMothers imput at the inquest ..obviously it is a report of the statements only ...

 

[FromGermany1]

Also in that 000 call, FFC mentions "walking" up and down benaroon drive looking for him, then in video walkthrough she mentions she jumped in the car and drove looking for him...questions from this, why say walking and not driving in the 000 call if you have just done it? And if the driving was after 000 call, didnt police arrive shortly after the call was placed, so if she drove after police arrived, would she need to take the police on a walkthrough of the drive? Surely they would be aware...

Also on the 000 call, I noticed when asked if were anyone suspicious in the area or any suspicious vehicles in the area...the response was quick and emphatic no, no, no, not that I am aware of, yet later on, she provides descriptions of 2 cars across the road and also a suspicious male. Wouldnt that be fresh in your mind if you noticed that mere hours earlier?

I remember, that at the time I was quite astonished about her, driving to search for her son. Though I thought at the time, he had disappeared only for a few minutes. I don't think, a 3yo boy would run for his life, when disappearing out of sight. Rather he would roam around slowly, perhaps on a neighbouring property. So a search for him by foot, shouting his name, in my eyes would have been more successful. - Now it makes sense more than 2014, if FFC drove, because she maybe wasn't really looking for him.

 

[Podcast Tragic]

Wags the cadaver dog.
Sitting.
They've got something.

When was this???

 

[Waverider]

William Tyrrell's foster grandmother's police statement to inquest revealed | Daily Mail Online

For those who have not gleaned FGMothers imput at the inquest ..obviously it is a report of the statements only ...

And according FGM’s testimony, the FFC could not have driven / did not drive anywhere between going outside to look for W, speaking to a neighbour on the street, and coming inside to call police, all of which happened in quick succession within a few minutes. The drive must’ve happened before the tea

 

[Couldbe]

William Tyrrell's foster grandmother's police statement to inquest revealed | Daily Mail Online

For those who have not gleaned FGMothers imput at the inquest ..obviously it is a report of the statements only ...

Seems like more gobbldygook with regard to details on what actually occurred.

 

[mmindymoo]

When was this???

Yesterday:
William Tyrrell detectives bring Wags the cocker spaniel in to help crack the seven-year case | Daily Mail Online

Could explain:
Importance of Tyrrell cloth finds revealed
The significance of the items discovered during the search for William Tyrrell has been revealed, with investigators “very happy” with the finds.

 

[Blues Clues]

Wags the cadaver dog.
Sitting.
They've got something.

I think you'll find he's waiting for a command from his handler.

William Tyrrell detectives bring Wags the cocker spaniel in to help crack the seven-year case | Daily Mail Online

 

[Waverider]

Seems like more gobbldygook with regard to details on what actually occurred.

What actually occurred though? Isn’t that the million dollar question?

 

[stormyseas]

Wags the cadaver dog.
Sitting.
They've got something.

This photo was part of the linked news article, posted three days ago. I can’t see where it says they’ve got something? Can you please provide more information?
William Tyrrell: Body finding expert leads detectives to a NEW site in Kendall | Daily Mail Online

 

[Tigerlily75]

To be even fairer ... Jubes has been off the case for 2 years. The new squad could have checked out FGM's car much earlier than this. They have supposedly been investigating for the last 2 years in an open investigation.

imo

Taking the car could tip off the POI though. Especially problematic if she’s under surveillance. They have to wait until they have all their ducks in a row. These things take time, and require a lot of patience. Look at how they got Daniel Morcombes killer. The patience required for that would have been excruciating.

IMO

 

[mmindymoo]

I think you'll find he's waiting for a command

William Tyrrell detectives bring Wags the cocker spaniel in to help crack the seven-year case | Daily Mail Online

I think you might be correct - I have just watched a few videos and it looks like they go into the down/stay position when they find something.

 

[Green beans]

To prevent dogs from digging or jumping at the site of the scent, potentially destroying evidence, they’re usually taught to notify their handlers by calmly laying down or sitting

Wags looks like she’s calming sitting IMO

Cadaver Dogs Do Spooky but Necessary Work

 

[mmindymoo]

This photo was part of the linked news article, posted three days ago. I can’t see where it says they’ve got something? Can you please provide more information?
William Tyrrell: Body finding expert leads detectives to a NEW site in Kendall | Daily Mail Online

I have edited my post - IMO They've got something - however, I retract this comment as it is the wrong position. Soz.

 

[organised_chaos]

Updated table of 'evidence' collected so far. I was going to add pictures, but unable to find for all the finds. Please check the table and tell me if you see any inconsistencies and let me know so that I can adjust as needed

 

[PolyDot]

IF little W didn't disappear in his shrieking red spiderman suit as said by FFC, then they caught her. Might there be another little boy in the game, who got dressed with a spiderman suit and who was transported into the direction of witness Mr. C, while little W was brought to a different place without spiderman suit?
ETA: As good as a man, one "abductor" could have been a tall, plump, blond woman. Perhaps Mr. C witnessed an involved woman with the wrong child (spiderman suit)?
Who knows, how inventive criminals are.

I don’t follow this at all …

 

[k-mac]

This is the struggle I have with this case. Most of the things being raised as potentially suspicious can also be potentially benign.

sff

Yes true, however these things have been given the benefit of benign and we haven't found William.

So not before time, full circle thorough investigations occurred.
Everybody should want this.
Nothing to hide there will be nothing to see.

moo

 

[PolyDot]

I remember, that at the time I was quite astonished about her, driving to search for her son. Though I thought at the time, he had disappeared only for a few minutes. I don't think, a 3yo boy would run for his life, when disappearing out of sight. Rather he would roam around slowly, perhaps on a neighbouring property. So a search for him by foot, shouting his name, in my eyes would have been more successful. - Now it makes sense more than 2014, if FFC drove, because she maybe wasn't really looking for him.

In my experience energetic 3 years olds can run fast .. however at some stage they might get frightened or become aware they are lost

 

[BreakingNews]

William Tyrrell's foster grandmother's police statement to inquest revealed | Daily Mail Online

For those who have not gleaned FGMothers imput at the inquest ..obviously it is a report of the statements only ...

She could just be repeating what she was told by her daughter. Was the man she talked about the one who said he saw a car driven wildly with who he thought had WT in the back up against the window???