Australia Australia - William Tyrrell Disappeared While Playing in Yard - Kendall (NSW) - #75

[iiiii's]

JMO - He could very well be currently in communication with the FM and advising her....because he is nurturing a preconceived view that she was not involved.

That would be very disturbing if true. I note they have similar styles to anything personally unfavourable, take a step forward, lean into negative allegation or comment and lead with the chin. Maybe they just have the same communication style. Pugalistic.

 

[SLouTh]

Just my 2 cents about the media articles… I think they are Positive PR Spin articles orchestrated by Insight Communications …. I expect we will see a few more next week …. Very similar strategy to what was employed after the news broke of the previous charges / court cases…..

Interestingly …. The same journalist that wrote this Jubelin PR piece for the Daily Telegraph is the same journalist that published a previous PR Piece about Jubelin’s comments …. Also defending the FM …

Said Journalist doesn’t usually write any William articles, <modsnip - sleuth what they write if you want, but don't sleuth beyond that>


All IMO

 

[mussopossum]

Out of curiosity, what evidence or information would the police have needed to seize the FGM car? was there a search warrant or was it done under "Reasonable Grounds"

Police believe foster-grandmother's car may have been used to transport William Tyrrell's body, ABC understands

A car that once belonged to William Tyrrell's foster-grandmother is seized in Sydney's south and will undergo forensic testing while police begin a third day of searching at the house where the boy was last seen.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Dannywood]

Just my 2 cents about the media articles… I think they are Positive PR Spin articles orchestrated by Insight Communications …. I expect we will see a few more next week …. Very similar strategy to what was employed after the news broke of the previous charges / court cases…..

Interestingly …. The same journalist that wrote this Jubelin PR piece for the Daily Telegraph is the same journalist that published a previous PR Piece about Jubelin’s comments …. Also defending the FM …

Said Journalist doesn’t usually write any William articles, <modsnip>


All IMO

<modsnip: inappropriate> Even having a PR company running the campaign is ... unusual. IMO

 

[SLouTh]

Out of curiosity, what evidence or information would the police have needed to seize the FGM car? was there a search warrant or was it done under "Reasonable Grounds"

Police believe foster-grandmother's car may have been used to transport William Tyrrell's body, ABC understands

A car that once belonged to William Tyrrell's foster-grandmother is seized in Sydney's south and will undergo forensic testing while police begin a third day of searching at the house where the boy was last seen.

www.abc.net.au

I definitely think they would have had a warrant .…. I don’t think they would risk any part of this investigation without one ……

JMO

 

[SouthAussie]

Just my 2 cents about the media articles… I think they are Positive PR Spin articles orchestrated by Insight Communications …. I expect we will see a few more next week …. Very similar strategy to what was employed after the news broke of the previous charges / court cases…..

Interestingly …. The same journalist that wrote this Jubelin PR piece for the Daily Telegraph is the same journalist that published a previous PR Piece about Jubelin’s comments …. Also defending the FM …

Said Journalist doesn’t usually write any William articles, <sleuth what they write if you want, but don't sleuth beyond that>


All IMO

What on earth? Cydonee Mardon is chief of staff at the DT. And specialises in crime reporting.

It would seem inappropriate for JFY or another reporter there who regularly writes about William's case to then follow up with Jubes' opinion piece. I believe it is called 'not having a conflict of interest' among the newspaper's journalists. imo

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/journalists/cydonee-mardon

 

[Warshawski]

BBM : How exactly do they establish time of death from a drop of blood ( with no body of course ) ?

<modsnip>

I do know that everyday technological advances are providing answers that were previously unavailable and I hope it brings answers for what happened in this awful situation.

 

[SLouTh]

What on earth? Cydonee Mardon is chief of staff at the DT. And specialises in crime reporting.

It would seem inappropriate for JFY or another reporter there who regularly writes about William's case to then follow up with Jubes' opinion piece. I believe it is called 'not having a conflict of interest' among the newspaper's journalists. imo

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/journalists/cydonee-mardon

I have just noticed a “pattern” hence my comment …
Isn‘t that part of sleuthing??

JMO

 

[FromGermany1]

My main concern is that he may have information from the investigation that he can advise the FFC on if charges come about, MOO

I wouldn't think it to be Jubelin's character. Hope so, at least.

 

[SouthAussie]

I have just noticed a “pattern” hence my comment …
Isn‘t that part of sleuthing??

JMO

The DT has to be very careful here. They have a former lead detective of William's case on staff. They hired him because of his detective knowledge, his experience, his popularity - which is an asset to their journalist team.

Jubes is very careful to not reveal anything he surely knows about this case from his former colleagues. We know he has friends who form part of NSWPOL (ret.) and the police are usually a pretty tight fraternity.

From everything I have read, the only specifics he will go into is things from his own time on the case ... and even then he only speaks of things that have already been in the media. I have even seen him say (somewhere, I think it was a radio interview) that he won't speak on 'that' (a particular angle) because it is still a current investigation.

The DT's efforts at keeping these two parts at arm's length has been quite good, to date.
They report on William's case, they report on Jubes' opinion, they seem to try to keep the two separate.
<sleuth what they write if you want, but don't sleuth beyond that> It is a specific effort to keep apart the two DT segments of reporting about this case. imo

 

[SLouTh]

The DT has to be very careful here. They have a former lead detective of William's case on staff. They hired him because of his detective knowledge, his experience, his popularity - which is an asset to their journalist team.

Jubes is very careful to not reveal anything he surely knows about this case from his former colleagues. We know he has friends who form part of NSWPOL (ret.) and the police are usually a pretty tight fraternity.

From everything I have read, the only specifics he will go into is things from his own time on the case ... and even then he only speaks of things that have already been in the media. I have even seen him say (somewhere, I think it was a radio interview) that he won't speak on 'that' (a particular angle) because it is still a current investigation.

The DT's efforts at keeping these two parts at arm's length has been quite good, to date.
They report on William's case, they report on Jubes' opinion, they seem to try to keep the two separate.

<sleuth what they write if you want, but don't sleuth beyond that> It is a specific effort to keep apart the two DT segments of reporting about this case. imo

Fair call ….

 

[Officer Dibble]

Catching up here. Is the FGM still alive? Also was the FGM questioned by Police? I ask because it was the FGM's house that WT was alleged to have gone missing from. Just wondered MOO.

 

[SouthAussie]

Catching up here. Is the FGM still alive? Also was the FGM questioned by Police? I ask because it was the FGM's house that WT was alleged to have gone missing from. Just wondered MOO.

FGM has passed on. We heard about it in March 2021.

William Tyrrell's foster grandmother dies, aged 88

www.9news.com.au

Yes, she was questioned by the police and said the only person she could think of who may have had something to do with William's disappearance is the man across the street <modsnip> who was a recluse.

She also gave a police statement and walkthrough. She may have done/said more, but those are the things we know about.

 

[Officer Dibble]

FGM has passed on. We heard about it in March 2021.

William Tyrrell's foster grandmother dies, aged 88

www.9news.com.au

Yes, she was questioned by the police and said the only person she could think of who may have had something to do with William's disappearance is the man across the street (I think Peter is his name) who was a recluse.

She also gave a police statement and walkthrough. She may have done/said more, but those are the things we know about.

Thank you South Aussie. Seems I'm further behind than I thought. Thanks again.

 

[Burtrito]

a thought: what if the new evidence is recovered text messages that had been deleted from ff phone….?

William Tyrrell foster father quizzed over mystery phone

William Tyrrell's foster father was interrogated about a mystery phone registered in his name which was disconnected just three days before his foster son vanished.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Karin1974]

I'm going to be very surprised if the FM had anything to do with William disappearing.

If it turns out that she did, it will sort of be a first for me.


You see,I've been following crime cases for many years,delving deep down into the facts. or in some cases, so called facts.
And also into the personalities of those involved.
And possible scenarios. Not just those that "most people would do" Or the "right way" a grieving person "should act" Remember Lindy.


And it came to me, and was so surprising, that I thought that can't be true!

What came to me was that not once in any cases involving disappearances, possibly murder, has a person I thought was innocent turned out to be guilty.

I say turned out, because some that I continued to believe were innocent were actually jailed, and later found not guilty, like I thought they were all along.


Not very scientific but I'm coming from a stance of innocent until proven guilty.

You know that one, that a lot of people just take no notice of.

IMO - Great post! I, too, have been interested in this case since the beginning & I’ve been through every scenario & gone back & forth on who could have taken WT & although at one point I did entertain the idea that FM might have done something to William, I just find it very difficult to believe that one person could fool so many police & for so long, common sense tells me that really shouldn’t be possible. I’m interested in what evidence they have that points in her direction & admit that I’ll be absolutely gobsmacked if it turns out the FM is guilty of anything to do with his disappearance. MOO

 

[Megnut]

<modsnip: quoted post was removed>
Could the foster father have driven the foster gma's car on his first trip out (I speculate he left twice, once for the paper, maybe he even took Wm with him, very much alive) and reparked it on the street?

Then the foster mother did a pull in, pull out and drove it later, while the foster father was in town for his virtual meeting.

Can't imagine why anyone would keep the first part a secret but it might account for the extra vehicles and sounds that morning.

And if LE was checking CCTV for the foster father's car earlier than the confirmed trip, his car wouldn't be there.

Jmo

 

[Doesitmakesense]

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Oh, my.

Could the foster father have driven the foster gma's car on his first trip out (I speculate he left twice, once for the paper, maybe he even took Wm with him, very much alive) and reparked it on the street?

Then the foster mother did a pull in, pull out and drove it later, while the foster father was in town for his virtual meeting.

Can't imagine why anyone would keep the first part a secret but it might account for the extra vehicles and sounds that morning.

And if LE was checking CCTV for the foster father's car earlier than the confirmed trip, his car wouldn't be there.

Jmo

I do still wonder if FFF went out twice, just the differing times listed in books, phone data, surveillance, FGM walk through.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

New article in the DM.

How poor 'bogans' were treated when rich couple 'lost' William Tyrrell

The problems that beset the William Tyrrell case go to the heart of the foster parent system. On one side, there's a wealthy, couple in a $4m home, on the other side a 'bogan' couple.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Child protection advocate, Allannah Smith said on Friday, two days after police leaked news of the delivery of the brief of evidence to the NSW Director of Public Prosecutions: 'Can you imagine what it would be like if the boot was on the other foot?'

 

[SouthAussie]

New article in the DM.

How poor 'bogans' were treated when rich couple 'lost' William Tyrrell

The problems that beset the William Tyrrell case go to the heart of the foster parent system. On one side, there's a wealthy, couple in a $4m home, on the other side a 'bogan' couple.

www.dailymail.co.uk

There we go with the "battlers vs wealthy" mentality again.

The DM must have read my recent post ( ) about how this case has always been "us against them" ... battlers vs wealthy, battlers vs FACS, birth parents vs foster parents, people who have had their children removed vs people who take those children in.

imo