Australia Australia - William Tyrrell Disappeared While Playing in Yard - Kendall (NSW) #77

[kittythehare]

Is it common in many households for 'decent human beings' to speak to/treat their young children like that?

I wonder if it is inherent in the character/personality of those Parents, or do they develop that attitude towards young children along the way? MOO

It's very much a double act..
they're on the same mental plane, age wise as they child they are abusing...

they're enjoying it.
It is power.

The same power we see here in cases every day.
The power to kill.

 

[SouthAussie]

William Tyrrell's last medical report shows health, emotional issues

One of missing toddler William Tyrrell's last medical reports shows he had health and emotional problems and was a sometime unhappy and solitary child with speech and hearing problems.

www.dailymail.co.uk

New article, which highlights ENT appointments, allergies, the need William had for an OT, all of which is entirely unrelated to his care status, IMO.

Where are you, little william?

On the one hand, it is a shame they are publishing William's private medical history.
On the other hand, it is good for people to be aware of the amount of medical and behavioural issues that many foster children have.
(Eg: my friends' foster child has several medical issues stemming from his BM's alcoholism during gestation, and beyond)


About 50% have chronic physical problems (eg, asthma, anemia, visual loss, hearing loss, and neurological disorders)
Physical Health Needs of Children in Foster Care AAP

The problem behaviours included aggressive, controlling and defiant behaviour, anxiety focused behaviours, high risk behaviours including drug and alcohol use, and problems related to cognition, language and memory.
Understanding children’s behaviour is key to foster care support

 

[Megnut]

It's very much a double act..
they're on the same mental plane, age wise as they child they are abusing...

they're enjoying it.
It is power.

The same power we see here in cases every day.
The power to kill.

It would appear they ordered up children for status. To look the part. Perfect family, perfect children, perfect parents.

Lord.

The proper way to roll dice
The precise way to close a door
The exact time for leaving one's bedroom

Control freaks.

Out of control freaks.

How's a child to navigate that? Impossible expectations, rules with rules with rules.

And it's the only home she knows.... and after all that, asks for a hug.

Denied.

Heart. Broke.

jmo

 

[SouthAussie]

Control freaks.

Out of control freaks.

Yet FD agreed with a kind of "free range" parenting. Remember the comment he made about that?

I don't think they are so much control freaks as people who are unequipped to deal with the problems that foster children bring with them.

When children are small they are easier to manage. As they approach teenage years, and into the teenage years, when normal rebellion sets in as nature prepares the child for future independence, things get more challenging. (Speaking from my own experience.)

 

[kittythehare]

On the one hand, it is a shame they are publishing William's private medical history.
On the other hand, it is good for people to be aware of the amount of medical and behavioural issues that many foster children have.
(Eg: my friends' foster child has several medical issues stemming from his BM's alcoholism during gestation, and beyond)


About 50% have chronic physical problems (eg, asthma, anemia, visual loss, hearing loss, and neurological disorders)
Physical Health Needs of Children in Foster Care AAP

The problem behaviours included aggressive, controlling and defiant behaviour, anxiety focused behaviours, high risk behaviours including drug and alcohol use, and problems related to cognition, language and memory.
Understanding children’s behaviour is key to foster care support

he had a simple condition called glue ear.
It was thought to affect his speech too.

Thing is, glue ear can be treated in a 2 minute procedure.
Why was it not treated and allowed to run until it was actively impeding his speech??

Glue ear

Find out what glue ear is, what causes it, what a GP can do to help, and how it's treated.

www.nhs.uk

 

[SouthAussie]

he had a simple condition called glue ear.
It was thought to affect his speech too.

Thing is, glue ear can be treated in a 2 minute procedure.
Why was it not treated and allowed to run until it was actively impeding his speech??

Glue ear

Find out what glue ear is, what causes it, what a GP can do to help, and how it's treated.

www.nhs.uk

The medical report (shown in the DM article) says ...


William has an identified mild hearing loss in his left ear. He was assessed by the audiologist as having mild glue ear, and has been referred to an ENT surgical consult at the end of May 2014.
William has some difficulty with speech production, particularly /s/ and /t/ sounds. A speech therapist has assessed this to be related to his glue ear, but also to having a high palate. He and [FM} undertake some speech exercises to address this.


It sounds as if William saw a GP/pediatrician, an audiologist, a speech therapist, was doing speech therapy exercises, and had an appointment with a surgeon - of which we do not know the result.
And was referred to an allergy specialist (also mentioned) - of which we also do not know the result. Though we do know William used asthma medications at the time he went missing.

 

[kittythehare]

The medical report (shown in the DM article) says ...


William has an identified mild hearing loss in his left ear. He was assessed by the audiologist as having mild glue ear, and has been referred to an ENT surgical consult at the end of May 2014.
William has some difficulty with speech production, particularly /s/ and /t/ sounds. A speech therapist has assessed this to be related to his glue ear, but also to having a high palate. He and [FM} undertake some speech exercises to address this.


It sounds as if William saw a GP/pediatrician, an audiologist, a speech therapist, was doing speech therapy exercises, and had an appointment with a surgeon - which we do not know the result.
And was referred to an allergy specialist (also mentioned) - which we also do not know the result of. Though we do know William used asthma medications at the time he went missing.

i know what it says, I read it.
glue ear treatment can be carried out in an OPD.. there is no need to delay..

 

[SouthAussie]

i know what it says, I read it.
glue ear treatment can be carried out in an OPD.. there is no need to delay..

In Australia we have to have a referral from a GP, to see a specialist. Then we have to wait for a specialist appointment (in my experience that usually takes a few months as they have very full schedules). Then we have to have the surgery when the surgeon can schedule it.

It is not like the US where you can see a specialist without a referral and get your treatment right away.

 

[Couldbe]

Privileged life of William Tyrrell's foster mum haunted by final photo
“He had been climbing up as the foster mother was having a cup of tea with a friend and had fallen on a piece of furniture.”

I am interpreting this to mean that William was climbing up on the FM while she was drinking her cup of tea, and in picturing that occurring, I am wondering what she may have done to prevent herself from spilling the hot tea on herself and possibly William as well?

It is possible that she stood up or pushed him off her … thereby causing him to fall on a piece of furniture. MOO

 

[SouthAussie]

Privileged life of William Tyrrell's foster mum haunted by final photo
“He had been climbing up as the foster mother was having a cup of tea with a friend and had fallen on a piece of furniture.”

I am interpreting this to mean that William was climbing up on the FM while she was drinking her cup of tea, and in picturing that occurring, I am wondering what she may have done to prevent herself from spilling the hot tea on herself and possibly William as well?

It is possible that she stood up or pushed him off her … thereby causing him to fall on a piece of furniture. MOO

Is that what the friend (witness) said she did?

 

[Couldbe]

Is that what the friend (witness) said she did?

Do you know if the friend did give any details?

 

[SouthAussie]

Do you know if the friend did give any details?

I asked you the same question.

 

[Burtrito]

The medical report (shown in the DM article) says ...


William has an identified mild hearing loss in his left ear. He was assessed by the audiologist as having mild glue ear, and has been referred to an ENT surgical consult at the end of May 2014.
William has some difficulty with speech production, particularly /s/ and /t/ sounds. A speech therapist has assessed this to be related to his glue ear, but also to having a high palate. He and [FM} undertake some speech exercises to address this.


It sounds as if William saw a GP/pediatrician, an audiologist, a speech therapist, was doing speech therapy exercises, and had an appointment with a surgeon - of which we do not know the result.
And was referred to an allergy specialist (also mentioned) - of which we also do not know the result. Though we do know William used asthma medications at the time he went missing.

I would like to know if he’d had his asthma plan in place when he went missing. Eg if he needed daily meds, did he take them? If he needed steroids, were they with him?

 

[FromGermany1]

Reading back through page 1 of thread 1, it sounds like the bruise happened on a Saturday while in the care (home) of the fosters but the photo of the faded bruise was taken at daycare.

Jmo

William is chubby and has a faded black eye - this pic has to be an old pic from another incident. When bio mum had the last visit, he looked "too thin" and had again a black eye, this time caused by a fall off of his foster mother, allegedly (although we heard different explanations, for example: he had fallen off of the foster FATHER). IMO

 

[SouthAussie]

I would like to know if he’d had his asthma plan in place when he went missing. Eg if he needed daily meds, did he take them? If he needed steroids, were they with him?

Yes. There was an asthma plan. IIRC there were two types of medication prescribed. There is conversation about it back in the threads.

William's asthma was a concern when he disappeared.


Here is a link ...

• William’s medication is: Ventolin 2 puffs when needed and Flixotide at night time as a preventer.

About William

 

[JLZ]

The medical report (shown in the DM article) says ...


William has an identified mild hearing loss in his left ear. He was assessed by the audiologist as having mild glue ear, and has been referred to an ENT surgical consult at the end of May 2014.
William has some difficulty with speech production, particularly /s/ and /t/ sounds. A speech therapist has assessed this to be related to his glue ear, but also to having a high palate. He and [FM} undertake some speech exercises to address this.


It sounds as if William saw a GP/pediatrician, an audiologist, a speech therapist, was doing speech therapy exercises, and had an appointment with a surgeon - of which we do not know the result.
And was referred to an allergy specialist (also mentioned) - of which we also do not know the result. Though we do know William used asthma medications at the time he went missing.

And there were emerging concerns with his gross motor skills and emotional development. Would the State as guardian have reimbursed the foster parents for all William's health care costs? Thinking of this in the light of FFC's tantrum over a child's loss of clothing worth $120.

 

[FromGermany1]

I think, little William came to his foster parents as a baby of 9 months old. Is that wrong?

 

[SouthAussie]

And there were emerging concerns with his gross motor skills and emotional development. Would the State as guardian have reimbursed the foster parents for all William's health care costs? Thinking of this in the light of FFC's tantrum over a child's loss of clothing worth $120.

Foster children get their own Health Care card for concessions.

Plus I know that my friends get extra reimbursement for their foster child's special health needs.

Foster Child Health Care Card

 

[SouthAussie]

I think, little William came to his foster parents as a baby of 9 months old. Is that wrong?

William's BM said she tested positive after she had her children. Hence the removal of first one child then another child.
There was also admittedly domestic violence going on in the home.
These things can have a lasting affect on children as young as newborns.


"Because I had domestic violence and drugs and alcohol, marijuana. When I had to do a drug screen, I tested positive after I'd had my children." Link

Babies and toddlers are directly affected by trauma. They are also affected if their mother, father or main caregiver is suffering consequences of the trauma.
Trauma can have a serious effect on babies and toddlers. Many people wrongly believe that babies do not notice or remember traumatic events. Link

 

[Green beans]

I remember reading bio grandma has a learning difference, literacy based if I remember correctly. These things have a strong genetic link and as such, run in families and in young children can present as “social/ emotional development delays, gross motor or fine motor deficits, and behavioural difficulties” as a result

So while it’s possible trauma from memories as an infant are a cause,
so are untreated allergies, can often lead to ear blockages, which may speech disorders and likely in the interm, hearing difficulties. Also developmentally, learning differences or more broadly -neurodiversity are also factors that may have been contributing to Williams listed medical history.