^^ To list some of the new information presented in the channel 12 report:
- Lead detective claims that LE does not know when Adrienne was killed.
- Adrienne's roommate says they had sort of a sick joke between them - Adrienne knew she could be "stolen" into someone's car and they would joke about it. Detail is vague, but it sounds almost like she may have had a premonition, and the two would joke about it.
Wow I also believe it was a premonition.
- The boyfriend has consistently been very cooperative and there is absolutely nothing suspicious about him.
If LE says he is OK then he is OK
- The report says Adrienne didn't call for a cab until about 4:45 am (this IMO is either a mistake or deliberate misinfo, it contradicts facts previously revealed).
Probably deliberate misinfo jmo
- There is an entire chapter on "Who Killed Adrienne Salinas." It is solely about cabbie and his father.
This is what interests me.
- When investigators initially called cabbie to speak with him (conference call including his father), he was driving passengers in the Grand Canyon area. His passengers heard the conversation or at least part of it, and they felt uncomfortable because they thought the conversation seemed weird and the cabbie seemed odd. Then, later on in Sedona, cabbie popped his trunk and pulled a hacksaw out of his trunk. This is when his passengers officially became scared of him (and I am presuming that they proactively contacted police).
That hacksaw creeps me out because of Adrienne’s head (and weren’t her hands?) being missing, but if the couple had called police right away would the hacksaw have been found? How frustrating. A murder weapon. Who knows maybe they do have it but he cleaned it. But there is a discrepancy in the idea also that the hacksaw would have already been used on Adrienne if the screams (mentioned below) weren’t heard at cabbie’s place until mid July. Why would he be driving all the way out to the Grand Canyon and Sedona? That’s just as strange. Those places aren’t super close to Tempe.
- There is a screen shot of part of a police report (?) about that phone call. It seems cabby (maybe his father) told the police that he did not remember making an arrangement to pick Adrienne up. Other content is clipped, but you can see that someone, possibly cabbie, before or after Adrienne's disappearance, had sent a text to a female (maybe Adrienne) saying it was "not nice to call a cab and then [clipped content]."
How freaking creepy is this??? do you guys remember that surveillance video released of a young woman getting into a sedan across the street from the AMPM around the time Adrienne disappeared? Maybe he waited for her across the street and pretended to be a different cab? I wish we had clearer info on who exactly received that text and who sent it bc it leaves WAY too much to assume.
- Cabbie is shown refusing a polygraph (personally I think polygraphs are useless in this sort of context, no judgment here) - he says he 'doesn't trust those things
I don’t find this so suspicious, but hacksaw...
and then that his lawyer advised him to refuse, and to stop talking to police...because at this point they were just "hassling him." Then police got a warrant to take his DNA.
They got his DNA? I remember this being a big deal bc they wanted it early on.
Cabby is shown alone in an interrogation room, with a knocked over chair, kicking an empty water bottle like it was a soccer ball. When personnel enters, he is confrontational. He feels victimized because he was embarrassed in front of his neighbors. "How are you gonna fix my life after this.”
To be fair, most people that are innocent get very angry when accused of a crime they haven’t committed. Many detectives/interrogators will get a pretty good emotional que as to a person’s culpability based on how shocked/angered they are. But this doesn’t mean I think he’s innocent...
- They go to take buccal swabs, and he becomes more confrontational, asking why they need to do it. He seems self righteous about being a taxi driver who works hard and does his job. At some point he goes on a rant about how, as a taxi driver, all he does is help people, he has probably helped more people as a taxi driver than [the police personnel present] have ever helped in their entire lives. He seems to think he was a victim to begin with because he received a call from a lady, went to pick her up, and she wasn't there. Before this stuff, regarding the buccal swabs, he says in a confrontational tone "Does this mean you found her? I hope you found her."
all of his behavior seems like he feels angry for being accused of doing something he didn’t do, but again not sure this proves as evidence of guilt or innocence either way.
- A week or two after this, police received a call from a woman who said that her cousin had heard a woman screaming in distress at cabbie's apartment on July 8th (about a month before Adrienne's body was found). Police "investigated" but weren't let in to his residence and didn't have a warrant because they were not able to get in touch with the woman's cousin. A screenshot of a police report suggests that the woman's cousin was not willing to come forward because he/she feared deportation.
This interests me greatly! I’m so frustrated the cousin did not come forward to confirm hearing the screams if she heard them. The whole entire town was in hysterics at this point and he already was a suspect, so the tip could have been baited/bogus. I kind of also think if the screams were significant enough that she would have actually came forward regardless and LE would have followed up on her lead and protected her. It’s very alarming, but also very hard to objectively believe at the same time idkw.
- Lead detective thought that cabbie Sr's Youtube video (showing Adrienne's path to AMPM) was odd. Detective infers that cabbie Sr was never as cooperative as it may have seemed, and could even be a potential suspect.
Yes I thought it was odd, but also thought maybe he was interested in the case and Adrienne being found alive bc his son was a person of interest/suspect that he honestly didn’t think was involved and wanted cleared? I think of how hard it would be to imagine my child is an abductor or killer. But I’m sure the detective has his other reasons for finding the cab guy’s dad suspicious beyond the video.
- Cabbie Sr. is shown in a video proposing that Adrienne could have been picked up by a competing cab company - not because the driver was a predator on the prowl per se but because the industry is highly competitive and another company could have been trying to steal his business at 5 AM on a Saturday morning. Also, he was arrested fairly recently after a girlfriend claimed that he extorted sex from her.
Oh man if he extorted sex out of a woman that is really sick.
- Finally, there is a chapter on Bryan Patrick Miller. He is under investigation but police have not spoken to him regarding Adrienne. I don't think anything new is revealed, but former friend Keen Azariah claims that about a year before Adrienne's disappearance, him and BPM were participating in this scavenger/treasure hunt sort of thing, and based on a clue BPM suggested they go look around Weekes Wash. Weekes Wash was where Adrienne's body was dumped and/or found.
I once thought maybe it was BPM, but this all steers me more toward the cab guy and possibly even his dad.
I have my own reasons for being interested in these new developments. I’m
Glad there is more transparency. Hopefully it will keep women safe from these two persons of interest for a long time.
^^ To list some of the new information presented in the channel 12 report:
- Lead detective claims that LE does not know when Adrienne was killed.
- Adrienne's roommate says they had sort of a sick joke between them - Adrienne knew she could be "stolen" into someone's car and they would joke about it. Detail is vague, but it sounds almost like she may have had a premonition, and the two would joke about it.
- The boyfriend has consistently been very cooperative and there is absolutely nothing suspicious about him.
- The report says Adrienne didn't call for a cab until about 4:45 am (this IMO is either a mistake or deliberate misinfo, it contradicts facts previously revealed).
- There is an entire chapter on "Who Killed Adrienne Salinas." It is solely about cabbie and his father.
- When investigators initially called cabbie to speak with him (conference call including his father), he was driving passengers in the Grand Canyon area. His passengers heard the conversation or at least part of it, and they felt uncomfortable because they thought the conversation seemed weird and the cabbie seemed odd. Then, later on in Sedona, cabbie popped his trunk and pulled a hacksaw out of his trunk. This is when his passengers officially became scared of him (and I am presuming that they proactively contacted police).
- There is a screen shot of part of a police report (?) about that phone call. It seems cabby (maybe his father) told the police that he did not remember making an arrangement to pick Adrienne up. Other content is clipped, but you can see that someone, possibly cabbie, before or after Adrienne's disappearance, had sent a text to a female (maybe Adrienne) saying it was "not nice to call a cab and then [clipped content]."
- Cabbie is shown refusing a polygraph (personally I think polygraphs are useless in this sort of context, no judgment here) - he says he 'doesn't trust those things' and then that his lawyer advised him to refuse, and to stop talking to police...because at this point they were just "hassling him." Then police got a warrant to take his DNA. Cabby is shown alone in an interrogation room, with a knocked over chair, kicking an empty water bottle like it was a soccer ball. When personnel enters, he is confrontational. He feels victimized because he was embarrassed in front of his neighbors. "How are you gonna fix my life after this."
- They go to take buccal swabs, and he becomes more confrontational, asking why they need to do it. He seems self righteous about being a taxi driver who works hard and does his job. At some point he goes on a rant about how, as a taxi driver, all he does is help people, he has probably helped more people as a taxi driver than [the police personnel present] have ever helped in their entire lives. He seems to think he was a victim to begin with because he received a call from a lady, went to pick her up, and she wasn't there. Before this stuff, regarding the buccal swabs, he says in a confrontational tone "Does this mean you found her? I hope you found her."
- A week or two after this, police received a call from a woman who said that her cousin had heard a woman screaming in distress at cabbie's apartment on July 8th (about a month before Adrienne's body was found). Police "investigated" but weren't let in to his residence and didn't have a warrant because they were not able to get in touch with the woman's cousin. A screenshot of a police report suggests that the woman's cousin was not willing to come forward because he/she feared deportation.
- Lead detective thought that cabbie Sr's Youtube video (showing Adrienne's path to AMPM) was odd. Detective infers that cabbie Sr was never as cooperative as it may have seemed, and could even be a potential suspect.
- Cabbie Sr. is shown in a video proposing that Adrienne could have been picked up by a competing cab company - not because the driver was a predator on the prowl per se but because the industry is highly competitive and another company could have been trying to steal his business at 5 AM on a Saturday morning. Also, he was arrested fairly recently after a girlfriend claimed that he extorted sex from her.
- Finally, there is a chapter on Bryan Patrick Miller. He is under investigation but police have not spoken to him regarding Adrienne. I don't think anything new is revealed, but former friend Keen Azariah claims that about a year before Adrienne's disappearance, him and BPM were participating in this scavenger/treasure hunt sort of thing, and based on a clue BPM suggested they go look around Weekes Wash. Weekes Wash was where Adrienne's body was dumped and/or found.
Wasn’t the Cab driver a VI here?Wow thanks for all the information. I did not know that much about the Cab Driver. Very interesting.
i honestly cannot remember, you would have to back through the boards.Wasn’t the Cab driver a VI here?
Yes, his name was cab guy.Wasn’t the Cab driver a VI here?
That hacksaw creeps me out because of Adrienne’s head (and weren’t her hands?) being missing, but if the couple had called police right away would the hacksaw have been found? How frustrating.
do you guys remember that surveillance video released of a young woman getting into a sedan across the street from the AMPM around the time Adrienne disappeared? Maybe he waited for her across the street and pretended to be a different cab?
This interests me greatly! I’m so frustrated the cousin did not come forward to confirm hearing the screams if she heard them. The whole entire town was in hysterics at this point and he already was a suspect, so the tip could have been baited/bogus.
Wasn’t the Cab driver a VI here?
First time I've seen this. It is good to see there is a video or podcast out there. Since it was done by a local news station it targets the area where her murderer may have lived. I'm curious about why Bryan Miller has not been questioned by LE. At the same time I'm on the fence about the cab driver's video. Is his son guilty and he is diverting attention away from his son? OR if his son is innocent and been dragged into the investigation because his son was in the wrong place at the wrong time is trying to prove his son's innocence. If it were my son and he was innocent I might do the same thing. His theory of another cab company is plausible. OR someone pretending to be a cab driver.The full episode
First time I've seen this. It is good to see there is a video or podcast out there. Since it was done by a local news station it targets the area where her murderer may have lived. I'm curious about why Bryan Miller has not been questioned by LE. At the same time I'm on the fence about the cab driver's video. Is his son guilty and he is diverting attention away from his son? OR if his son is innocent and been dragged into the investigation because his son was in the wrong place at the wrong time is trying to prove his son's innocence. If it were my son and he was innocent I might do the same thing. His theory of another cab company is plausible. OR someone pretending to be a cab driver.
New 3-part series being released soon. Hats off to William Pitts and 12News for helping keep the story afloat.
I was trying to read through some old messages to trigger my memory so bear with me but there were other missing adults in the area who had also last been seen getting into cabs. I seem to remember a male who was kicked out of a bar in scottsdale?? Maybe the Scottsdale part is just me trying to envision it. I thought he was found in the lake?? Anyway, a cabbie that rolls with a hacksaw in the trunk makes me wish I could recall those similar cases.
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I read everything I could about this case when it was hot. My gut says: It was someone at the party, one of last hangers-on. Everyone's passed out or left or outside havin' a smoke, she was leaving to go meet the cab, "Hey I can give you a ride down the block to the cab." and that's it. She got in his car, it was almost 5am on a Sunday, the US 60 is right there, take that east to Idaho Rd... She got in a car with someone who she didn't really know. After the crazy night she had her judgment would have been off. Couple blocks to meet the cab but "hey, I can just give you a ride to where you're going, where is it?" I've been to 1000 parties (many in that area) and that's how it usually is, couple of hangers-on still up, talking, maybe looking for some action, or that lone creepy guy (we used to call the Dahmers) no one really knows who they are / he is- friend of a friend, maybe some dude(s) walking and saw a party going on and slipped in for a few free drinks or whatever. That's just my gut. Popped on to see if there's been any movement on this. Happened a few miles from here. Bugs the hell outta me.
Wow, thanks for posting!
From the article above that Bessie posted:
"Police undoubtedly will look at the case of Adrienne Salinas, the Tempe teenager whose partial remains were found in a wash in Apache Junction in 2013. Although the autopsy report was partially redacted, it seemed that her head was not among the remains recovered at the scene.
Although Phoenix's homicide investigators haven't started looking at possible connections, Crump tells us, "Everything is probably on the table," in regards to looking at previous crimes."
*I'm so glad to see a renewed discussion here in Adrienne's thread!
Question, this is going to sound weird, has a missing head ever been linked definitely to the result of scavenger activity, decomp, disarticulation, etc...in other words, other than purposeful dismemberment, is there any other way that a head can be disconnected from the body post-mortem? Hope this makes sense.