AZ AZ - Cynthia, 15, & Jackie Leslie, 13, Mesa, 31 July 1974

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I'm so sorry for what I'm about to say, I don't want to hurt family members, but I think it's obvious they're dead, so...
Have LE ever examined the house and the surroundings with cadaver dogs or a GPR?
I know there are many places where the people involved may have hidden two bodies, but if police officers were around (or they felt they were around and panicked), they may have just buried them underneath the house or in their own garden.
Someone included a news report where it's mentioned that, even when some people denied the girls were at the party, a personal item of them was located at that home.
Thanks to Google maps I could see that there are many deserted areas not far from Baseline road (last confirmed sighting), so that's also a good place to check.
I agree that interviewing the partygoers again could be a very good idea.
 
Diane Redfern said:
I'm so sorry for what I'm about to say, I don't want to hurt family members, but I think it's obvious they're dead, so...
Have LE ever examined the house and the surroundings with cadaver dogs or a GPR?
I know there are many places where the people involved may have hidden two bodies, but if police officers were around (or they felt they were around and panicked), they may have just buried them underneath the house or in their own garden.
Someone included a news report where it's mentioned that, even when some people denied the girls were at the party, a personal item of them was located at that home.
Thanks to Google maps I could see that there are many deserted areas not far from Baseline road (last confirmed sighting), so that's also a good place to check.
I agree that interviewing the partygoers again could be a very good idea.
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What house are you talking about? The party was out in a desert area, not at a house.

It's so sad their mom still doesn't have answers. The behavior of the boy's mom is a huge red flag.
 
Ssschu said:
What house are you talking about? The party was out in a desert area, not at a house.

It's so sad their mom still doesn't have answers. The behavior of the boy's mom is a huge red flag.
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What is the source of the information that the party was in a desert area rather than at a home?
 
What I know as a family member trying to figure this out. I will go back and read through all these pages.

These girls were my dad's half sisters. I have talked with many other family and close friends.

Shortly after the girls went missing, one of their friends had stopped by. She, the friend was wearing a knecklace owned by Cynthia. Erma(mother of the missing girls) asked her where she got it. She replied "her dad". Police followed this lead and were on this guy. (whos name I do not know, I am trying to find the police reports) They had found underwear from one of the girls in his car. From what I'm told the guy threatened to sue the Mesa police department for harrasment and they backed off of him. He then quickly moved his family out of the area to an unknown location and they (Mesa Police) dropped the pursute of him. I don't like to point fingures to much....But this sounds highly suspicious to me in both the police backing off on a BS threat to law suit and that this wasn't the person responsible for the girls being gone....At this point, we'll never know.

A few years ago there were remains of a similarly aged girl found near the trailer park they lived in. Maricopa County medical examiners office somehow listed the report twice, both with same case number. So it appeared as tho they found the girls. I had spoken to the Medical examiner's office and confirmed the they were able to identify the remains to a different case. Not my aunts.

At this point, we are certain the girls are gone. I and the rest of my family would like to find them and give them the proper burial and send off to heaven they so deserve and give us the closer we all want.
 
AndyLeslie007 said:
What I know as a family member trying to figure this out. I will go back and read through all these pages.

These girls were my dad's half sisters. I have talked with many other family and close friends.

Shortly after the girls went missing, one of their friends had stopped by. She, the friend was wearing a knecklace owned by Cynthia. Erma(mother of the missing girls) asked her where she got it. She replied "her dad". Police followed this lead and were on this guy. (whos name I do not know, I am trying to find the police reports) They had found underwear from one of the girls in his car. From what I'm told the guy threatened to sue the Mesa police department for harrasment and they backed off of him. He then quickly moved his family out of the area to an unknown location and they (Mesa Police) dropped the pursute of him. I don't like to point fingures to much....But this sounds highly suspicious to me in both the police backing off on a BS threat to law suit and that this wasn't the person responsible for the girls being gone....At this point, we'll never know.

A few years ago there were remains of a similarly aged girl found near the trailer park they lived in. Maricopa County medical examiners office somehow listed the report twice, both with same case number. So it appeared as tho they found the girls. I had spoken to the Medical examiner's office and confirmed the they were able to identify the remains to a different case. Not my aunts.

At this point, we are certain the girls are gone. I and the rest of my family would like to find them and give them the proper burial and send off to heaven they so deserve and give us the closer we all want.
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Wow! It certainly sounds like they had the right guy. Can't imagine how frustrating that was for your family.
 
Richard said:
This is a case which is somewhat rare in that two sisters were apparently abducted at the same time. In some ways it is similar to the disappearance of the Fort Worth, TX three who went missing five months later (Dec 74), and with the disappearance of the Lyon Sisters from Wheaton, MD three months after that (Mar 75). There are also other double abductions from that time frame which may or may not be connected.

Was this a crime of opportunity by someone passing through, or was it a crime perpetrated by someone who knew the girls? Does anyone have any more information on the case?
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Royal Russell Long was noted for abducting 2 girls at the same time and had been on a spree that summer at carnivals and Fairs in Rawlins Wyoming. He was also a long Haul Trucker part time. He was convicted for the kidnapping of 2 girls and the murder of one of them in Wyoming 1984. He was also tried for the abduction of 2 girls in OK city in 1980 they have never been found. There was a trucking hub in Pheonix he could have been running a load between carnival in Wyoming. The dates line up.
 
Ssschu said:
What house are you talking about? The party was out in a desert area, not at a house.

It's so sad their mom still doesn't have answers. The behavior of the boy's mom is a huge red flag.
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Cynthia was last seen walking with her younger sister, Jackie, on July 31, 1974. They were headed to a friend's home, which was located three blocks away from their own residence in the Desert Sands Mobile Home Park in east Mesa.
Source: 94DFAZ - Cynthia Ardina Leslie

I can't see anything which indicates the party was at a desert area.
 
Ozoner said:
What is the source of the information that the party was in a desert area rather than at a home?
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Recently I've found this:

The area of the party has since been built up with businesses and homes, but back in 1974, it was a remote desert surrounded by cotton fields and orange groves. Police searched the area, but no evidence of the girls was ever found.
Source: https://thecrimewire.com/true-crime...he-Disappearance-of-Cynthia-and-Jackie-Leslie

The area of the party was rural back in 1974, and nearby wooded areas were searched at the time with no results. The area is now built up, with houses and businesses sitting on the once wooded areas.
Source: Cynthia & Jackie Leslie

Maybe they went to that friend's home and then they went together to this area.

However, Charley Project and Doe Network say:
The sisters were headed to a friend's home that was located three blocks away from their own residence in the Desert Shores Mobile Home Park. They were last seen walking down Baseline Road near Power Road.

It's like it's not even sure they got their friend's home. And as the partygoers gave conflicting statements (some said they'd seen the sisters there, and others said they never arrived), we can't even be sure who is lying; why is no one willing to talk after so many years? Someone must know what happened that night.
 
Diane Redfern said:
Recently I've found this:

The area of the party has since been built up with businesses and homes, but back in 1974, it was a remote desert surrounded by cotton fields and orange groves. Police searched the area, but no evidence of the girls was ever found.
Source: https://thecrimewire.com/true-crime...he-Disappearance-of-Cynthia-and-Jackie-Leslie

The area of the party was rural back in 1974, and nearby wooded areas were searched at the time with no results. The area is now built up, with houses and businesses sitting on the once wooded areas.
Source: Cynthia & Jackie Leslie

Maybe they went to that friend's home and then they went together to this area.

However, Charley Project and Doe Network say:
The sisters were headed to a friend's home that was located three blocks away from their own residence in the Desert Shores Mobile Home Park. They were last seen walking down Baseline Road near Power Road.

It's like it's not even sure they got their friend's home. And as the partygoers gave conflicting statements (some said they'd seen the sisters there, and others said they never arrived), we can't even be sure who is lying; why is no one willing to talk after so many years? Someone must know what happened that night.
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This is just my own interpretation, but the above passage is written in a confusing way, so I can understand why people would interpret it differently.

I believe the party was at a house that was rural and surrounded by remote desert, orange groves and nearby woods. All the descriptions of the area are not describing that the party itself was outdoors, but that the house had nothing but nature around it. That’s the way I interpret all if the descriptions.
 
Diane Redfern said:
Recently I've found this:

The area of the party has since been built up with businesses and homes, but back in 1974, it was a remote desert surrounded by cotton fields and orange groves. Police searched the area, but no evidence of the girls was ever found.
Source: https://thecrimewire.com/true-crime...he-Disappearance-of-Cynthia-and-Jackie-Leslie

The area of the party was rural back in 1974, and nearby wooded areas were searched at the time with no results. The area is now built up, with houses and businesses sitting on the once wooded areas.
Source: Cynthia & Jackie Leslie

Maybe they went to that friend's home and then they went together to this area.

However, Charley Project and Doe Network say:
The sisters were headed to a friend's home that was located three blocks away from their own residence in the Desert Shores Mobile Home Park. They were last seen walking down Baseline Road near Power Road.

It's like it's not even sure they got their friend's home. And as the partygoers gave conflicting statements (some said they'd seen the sisters there, and others said they never arrived), we can't even be sure who is lying; why is no one willing to talk after so many years? Someone must know what happened that night.
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I would suggest that the home three blocks away was a cover story for where Cynthia and Jackie were really going.
 
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