AZ AZ - Daniel Robinson, 24, remote job site, Buckeye, 23 Jun 2021 #2

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The family of missing geologist Daniel Robinson plans to conduct another public desert search on Feb. 25 in hopes of examining areas not yet scoured since he disappeared in Buckeye 19 months ago.

The 25-year-old was last seen in June 2021 leaving his worksite in the desert of Buckeye. Robinson was working for the engineering company Matrix New World, overseeing a well site at the time of his disappearance.

More at Geologist went missing more than a year ago near Buckeye. His dad is planning a new public search
 
New article (it looks like they re-searched a well and other areas):


"On Feb. 21, police said a special three-day operation didn't bring the search for Robinson any closer to an end."

"A specialized search operation has yielded no additional clues in the missing person investigation of Daniel Robinson. Buckeye police collaborated with the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office and utilized contractors in the three-day search effort this month," Buckeye Police said."

"What prompted the search was a tip police got about possible human remains inside a well on Jan. 27. That same well had already been searched."

"The well is located approximately half a mile north of where Daniel was last seen. As a result, BPD contracted a company to scope the well on February 9th to view the contents. On February 13th, another contractor used heavy equipment to reach the depth of the well at nearly 1,000 feet to remove the contents for further examination. No human remains were found," the department said."
 

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Thank you. However there is nothing in your links that provides any proof that, as you assert, Daniel wasn't having a mental health situation, and earlier evidence indicates that he was. His dad's opinion doesn't include any actual evidence or even suggestion of anything beyond that someone may have accessed his computer (which I agree is concerning). MOO
 
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Exactly. I also haven't seen a news or police source state that his computer was accessed. I can also think of a number of reasons, if it was, that it could appear to be including remote access, program updates, etc. Daniel most definately was having a mental health crisis. That is clearly documented through interviews of people he had contact with in the police report and why people were so worried about him so quickly. That's not to say there couldn't be foul play also, but the investigating officials have not stated they suspect it. Most likely they know a lot more about Daniel's state of mind and what he was up to in the days before his disappearance than has been shared.
Thank you. However there is nothing in your links that provides any proof that, as you assert, Daniel wasn't having a mental health situation, and earlier evidence indicates that he was. His dad's opinion doesn't include any actual evidence or even suggestion of anything beyond that someone may have accessed his computer (which I agree is concerning). MOO
 
Exactly. I also haven't seen a news or police source state that his computer was accessed. I can also think of a number of reasons, if it was, that it could appear to be including remote access, program updates, etc. Daniel most definately was having a mental health crisis. That is clearly documented through interviews of people he had contact with in the police report and why people were so worried about him so quickly. That's not to say there couldn't be foul play also, but the investigating officials have not stated they suspect it. Most likely they know a lot more about Daniel's state of mind and what he was up to in the days before his disappearance than has been shared.

Upthread, was an article linked that said the sister had tried Daniel's computer after he was missing?
 
Exactly. I also haven't seen a news or police source state that his computer was accessed. I can also think of a number of reasons, if it was, that it could appear to be including remote access, program updates, etc. Daniel most definately was having a mental health crisis. That is clearly documented through interviews of people he had contact with in the police report and why people were so worried about him so quickly. That's not to say there couldn't be foul play also, but the investigating officials have not stated they suspect it. Most likely they know a lot more about Daniel's state of mind and what he was up to in the days before his disappearance than has been shared.
Could you maybe point to an official (e.g. by a psychiatric professional), source that diagnosed a mental condition or a "mental health crisis"? I can only find hearsay or casual observation.... IMO there's a difference between someone having a VERY difficult time and maybe doing some odd things and someone who has a diagnosed mental condition. Also IMO having a VERY difficult time does not bring one to going missing during a work trip to the desert. Many people work when their lives are a mess. Many people mess up their professional lives when their personal lives are a mess. So, I don't see any relationship between being a MESS and going missing out in the desert while doing one's job. There's no diagnosed "mental health crisis" in any of this: it's just how humans behave at sometime or other. It's a hazard of human life. IMO most people get "crash-y" in their lifetimes at some point.

Plus, it doesn't take a "mental health crisis" to go missing nor to leave a trail of incomprehensible "clues" while doing so.

And if a person is unused to being in the pitch black dark at night, no light, in the desert, lost, by themselves, this alone is crazy-making! So easy to freak out.

IMO once labeled "mental health crisis", that label gets highlighted in many sleuthing cases, and determines the course of the investigation. In the meantime, other possible explanations fall by the wayside.

As far as I can tell, when I've read through this case, DR could have spotted something in the distance related to his line of work, and he went to investigate. This would not be at all unusual for a geologist. He had the misfortune to take the wrong road, for whatever reason.

Substitute a snowy landscape for desert, and this kind of stuff has been happening all winter out West. Folks are following GPS in their cars and are ending up on remote roads, marooned by snow, sometimes for days. And do they wander away from their stuck cars? Yep! Are there fatalities? Yep! Can this happen in summer, too? Yes, you can "spin out" on dirt roads. It's happened to me in the back of beyond.

I'll add that in remote areas, people go missing and are never found by SAR, drones, helicopters, or informal searchers. If remains are found, often it's years later, by chance. For example, this is common in the sere landscape of Joshua Tree National Park: Paul Miller, Bill Ewasko, Rachel Nguyen, and Joseph Orbeso. I would guess, against desert landscapes, clothes blend in, which makes remains especially difficult to spot, or the temptation is to crawl under a rock; in a snowy landscape (provided there's not new snow, e.g. Sands who was obviously buried by a blizzard within a day or two), clothing is more noticeable and often brightly colored.

Here on Bill Ewasko:
 
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As a follow up to my post, I will say that I recently bought a pea-green jacket instead of a black one, for safety reasons. I've become very sensitive to how the missing are found.
In my "specialist" capacity, I also recommend always keeping a headlamp in your car (in a hiking pack, it goes without saying: always carry one), with AAA batteries. Humans really do go nuts in pitch blackness, with no streetlights, and a headlamp will keep you sensible if you're stuck somewhere. I just got a new one, last year's color, my favorite high-quality brand, with batteries, for $14.
Poor DR's situation could really have been exacerbated by night-time spookies. He prolly killed his car battery (and thereby his lights) trying to get it re-started.
 
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As far as I can tell, when I've read through this case, DR could have spotted something in the distance related to his line of work, and he went to investigate. This would not be at all unusual for a geologist. He had the misfortune to take the wrong road, for whatever reason.

Substitute a snowy landscape for desert, and this kind of stuff has been happening all winter out West. Folks are following GPS in their cars and are ending up on remote roads, marooned by snow, sometimes for days. And do they wander away from their stuck cars? Yep! Are there fatalities? Yep! Can this happen in summer, too? Yes, you can "spin out" on dirt roads. It's happened to me in the back of beyond.
Leaving a worksite and a fellow worker abruptly without telling anyone why or to where would be unusual and dangerous for a geologist...to simply see something in the distance he wanted to investigate and leave. You are correct there is no diagnosis of a condition I have seen sourced. Plus, that would involve treatment. Medical records and any emergency calls on his behalf would be protected information I imagine. Sadly, I think it's likely he crashed due to taking a wrong turn. I don't think he intentionally crashed his jeep. I can see how the lanscape can be camouflaging. Thank you for the link.
 
Leaving a worksite and a fellow worker abruptly without telling anyone why or to where would be unusual and dangerous for a geologist...to simply see something in the distance he wanted to investigate and leave.
Snipped for focus....

Why would it be dangerous?

I can totally see leaving suddenly to investigate something. And, DR might have thought he told someone.... Maybe the other person didn't hear. And DR could simply have had a pressing nature call, had to go out of sight on the double (in the desert that might be quite far away to get privacy!), and got disoriented trying to come back.

IMO every detail in this case is easy to normalize. From the get go, everything seemed quite explanatory to me. I don't believe there was a crime, either: I think there was a series of unfortunate events.

Nothing can be pinned on the "remains haven't been found", IME. I believe finding the remains in any kind of short order would be rarer. People go missing in remote areas all the time, and they don't get found, no matter how many professionals and lay folks, dogs, helicopters, drones, etc. go looking for them.
 
While there is not mental health diagnosis, if you read through the police reports. https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21080582/robinson-report-9-23-21.pdf

Hopefully that link works, go to page 10 and read that David indeed says that Daniel had been acting odd lately. Daniel's behavior was not normal for Daniel leading up to him going missing. This is reported by not only his dad, but his sister, coworkers and friends throughout the report mention that Daniel was behaving oddly.

So even though he hadn't been diagnosed with anything, he was acting unusual.

I feel so sad for the family, I can't imagine how upsetting it is to have a family member go missing and be unable to locate them. But conspiracy theories are not going to help find Daniel. I keep hoping there are new satellite images of the area in hopes that his remains can be found by searching google maps.
 
Here’s another Live YT session with Daniel’s father. This is a great way to learn more about his dad’s efforts. Thanks again for allowing me to share

 
While there is not mental health diagnosis, if you read through the police reports. https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21080582/robinson-report-9-23-21.pdf

Hopefully that link works, go to page 10 and read that David indeed says that Daniel had been acting odd lately. Daniel's behavior was not normal for Daniel leading up to him going missing. This is reported by not only his dad, but his sister, coworkers and friends throughout the report mention that Daniel was behaving oddly.

So even though he hadn't been diagnosed with anything, he was acting unusual.

I feel so sad for the family, I can't imagine how upsetting it is to have a family member go missing and be unable to locate them. But conspiracy theories are not going to help find Daniel. I keep hoping there are new satellite images of the area in hopes that his remains can be found by searching google maps.
David says in that report that there were no medical or mental health issues. Family do say DR wasn’t himself, but attribute it to something that had to do with a woman. Very possibly, there was something very confusing to DR in this relationship or non-relationship. Dealing with a crush can cause VERY odd behavior, as well as humiliation, embarrassment, shame, acting out, obsessive thoughts….Nonetheless, it doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with why DR went missing.

Satellite images wouldn’t be helpful at spotting remains, but drones would be. Even so, it takes teams of folks (often volunteers) massive amount of time to look at the thousands of drone photos that get generated. Remains are very difficult to spot. See the Paul Miller case. Even in that case, the spotter only thought there might be remains; rangers actually had to go to the location and verify. In other words, even drone images may not be the answer.

It might be possible to get on the crew examining images as a sleuthing endeavor. In the Paul Miller case, IIRC, these were volunteers. The teams work virtually.
 
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David says in that report that there were no medical or mental health issues. Family do say DR wasn’t himself, but attribute it to something that had to do with a woman. Very possibly, there was something very confusing to DR in this relationship or non-relationship. Dealing with a crush can cause VERY odd behavior, as well as humiliation, embarrassment, shame, acting out, obsessive thoughts….Nonetheless, it doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with why DR went missing.

Satellite images wouldn’t be helpful at spotting remains, but drones would be. Even so, it takes teams of folks (often volunteers) massive amount of time to look at the thousands of drone photos that get generated. Remains are very difficult to spot. See the Paul Miller case. Even in that case, the spotter only thought there might be remains; rangers actually had to go to the location and verify. In other words, even drone images may not be the answer.

It might be possible to get on the crew examining images as a sleuthing endeavor. In the Paul Miller case, IIRC, these were volunteers. The teams work virtually.
The following is all MOO.

Respectfully, Daniel’s family lived across the country from him (in South Carolina) at the time of his disappearance, and they were not physically present to observe any warning signs of mental illness (outside of the unusual discussions that they admit having with him and dismiss as relationship issues).

According to the American Psychiatric Association, “50% of mental illness begins by age 14, and 3/4 begin by age 24.” Daniel was 24 when he disappeared and may have been demonstrating warning signs of mental illness before he disappeared. See below for the official website from the American Psychiatric Association.


One potential warning sign includes Daniel’s showing up uninvited several times to a young woman’s home just days before his disappearance after the woman clearly expressed in text messages that she was not interested in seeing Daniel and requested that he stop showing up to her home uninvited. You can read the texts at the following link.


On the day of his disappearance, Daniel also had an unusual interaction with a coworker that prompted the coworker to inform his company of Daniel’s behavior after Daniel drove away but before he was reported as missing.

See the below quote.

Mr Elliott told The Independent that everything seemed fine as they discussed the weather and the job. But within a matter of minutes, Mr Robinson’s demeanour changed from normal to distracted.

“He was just looking off into the desert; he had a very, very distant look in his eyes,” Mr Elliott said. “Whenever he’d turn around again, I would look at him and look into his eyes – the first thing I thought was maybe it was drugs or something ... [but] his pupils were not dilated.”

“From that standpoint, everything appeared to be normal,” Mr Elliott said. “Then I thought this was a medical condition or something. I wasn’t too sure. I kept watching him, but he just kept turning around and looking off into the desert.”

 
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I don't think Daniel was having a mental illness, I think he was a victim of foul play. <modsnip: insinuations against someone not named a POI>
What evidence do you have that makes you believe he was a victim of foul play? I did not see anything in the police report that indicates any suspicion of foul play, so if you’re seeing something in the report that others have missed, please point it out. <modsnip: quoted post snipped>
 
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