AZ AZ - Grand Canyon, 'Little Miss X' UP9859, Wht/Hisp Fem, 11-17, nail file case "P" & "R", Oct'58

[John/Jane Doe]

I think this could be a pretty likely possible match.

Carol Batterman and Little Miss X both have dentals available so they can be compared, so I think this potential match should be submitted.

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3407DFOK - Carol Ann Batterman

More details of Carol Batterman's disappearance at The Charley Project:

Carol Ann Batterman – The Charley Project

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Does anyone think she could be Carol Batterman?

A friend of mine and I have been working super hard to try and get Little Miss X solved and we stumbled across Carol. Table:

	Carol Batterman MP21701	Little Miss X (1958) UP9859	Possible?
Sex	Female	Female	Match
Race	White/Caucasian	White/Hispanic	Match/Possible
Age	19	11-17 (Doe Network Estimate)	Possible
Height	5'5"	5'0"-5'3"	Possible. (Tests were done in the early 70s at latest and Carol's height may be estimated.)
Weight	115lbs	105lbs	Match/Possible
Hair Color	Brown	Brown/Auburn	Possible
Eye Color	Brown	Unknown	Possible
Estimated D.O.D/D.L.C	May 31, 1958	1957	Possible
Distinctive Features	Oval scar in left of wrist	Unknown/None (Skeletal Remains)	Match/Possible
Circumstances	Last seen waiting for bus	Found in Grand Canyon, AZ	Stretching
Distance	OKC/Moore-Grand Canyon	961 miles (14hr 12min)	Stretching

The heavy eyebrows on Carol caught me as odd as Little Miss X has the same type of eyebrows. Eyebrows can be somewhat estimated from the shape of the skull. Let me know what you think!

Here is Carol Ann Batterman's thread:

OK - OK - Carol Batterman, 19, Oklahoma City, 31 May 1958

Carol Ann Batterman Endangered Missing from Oklahoma City, Oklahoma since May 31, 1958 Age: 19 -- Height: 5'5" -- Weight: 115 lbs -- Hair Color: Brown -- Eye Color: Brown Carol has an oval-shaped scar on her wrist. Carol was last seen waiting for a bus outside the Crown Motel in Oklahoma...

www.websleuths.com

 

[SimsGuy67]

I found a new match for Little Miss X that isn't on NamUs or Doe Network. Can someone tell me who to go to when asking about adding a new case on NamUs?

 

[sonz82]

I found a new match for Little Miss X that isn't on NamUs or Doe Network. Can someone tell me who to go to when asking about adding a new case on NamUs?

I'm intrigued. Who is this new match? This is pet case of mine, I have a few possible matches that aren't on namus, doenet or charley either

 

[RickshawFan]

Does anyone think she could be Carol Batterman?

A friend of mine and I have been working super hard to try and get Little Miss X solved and we stumbled across Carol. Table:

	Carol Batterman MP21701	Little Miss X (1958) UP9859	Possible?
Sex	Female	Female	Match
Race	White/Caucasian	White/Hispanic	Match/Possible
Age	19	11-17 (Doe Network Estimate)	Possible
Height	5'5"	5'0"-5'3"	Possible. (Tests were done in the early 70s at latest and Carol's height may be estimated.)
Weight	115lbs	105lbs	Match/Possible
Hair Color	Brown	Brown/Auburn	Possible
Eye Color	Brown	Unknown	Possible
Estimated D.O.D/D.L.C	May 31, 1958	1957	Possible
Distinctive Features	Oval scar in left of wrist	Unknown/None (Skeletal Remains)	Match/Possible
Circumstances	Last seen waiting for bus	Found in Grand Canyon, AZ	Stretching
Distance	OKC/Moore-Grand Canyon	961 miles (14hr 12min)	Stretching

The heavy eyebrows on Carol caught me as odd as Little Miss X has the same type of eyebrows. Eyebrows can be somewhat estimated from the shape of the skull. Let me know what you think!

Wouldn’t CB’s tooth alignment correspond to a very specific shape of the skull? She has buck teeth that protrude all the way up to her nose. The structure dominates her face.
There doesn’t seem to be anything like this feature on the UID.

 

[sonz82]

Still nothing found on GG and another girl BM, isn't listed in her father's obit so she may be missing or deceased, I'm not sure

 

[sonz82]

I've also never been able to verify if Yolanda is still missing or not..

 

[iamshadow21]

Wouldn’t CB’s tooth alignment correspond to a very specific shape of the skull? She has buck teeth that protrude all the way up to her nose. The structure dominates her face.
There doesn’t seem to be anything like this feature on the UID

My completely novice impressions follow. Looks like a shorter philtrum on Carol. Her hair looks very dark, too, but it's hard with a b&w photo. Eyes look wider set, as well, but we're dealing with skeletal remains. Does anyone know if the skull was in good condition? Might give an idea how much wiggle room there is with how closely a misper needs to match the reconstruction.

 

[carbuff]

My completely novice impressions follow. Looks like a shorter philtrum on Carol. Her hair looks very dark, too, but it's hard with a b&w photo. Eyes look wider set, as well, but we're dealing with skeletal remains. Does anyone know if the skull was in good condition? Might give an idea how much wiggle room there is with how closely a misper needs to match the reconstruction.

It's hard to tell about the mouth and nose because Carol is smiling and the reconstruction isn't. That can drastically change the apparent length of the philtrum and the tip of the nose.

 

[Bit of hope]

I don't know what to do... I have tried everything in my power to get my mystery match onto NamUs and Doe Network. Nothing... not even a response. I will at least give out her full name as this will be mind blowing for some people I'm sure. Her name was Patricia Rhae Wilson. See the P and the R? The same letters that were on the nail file. Maybe the W became invisible due to wear from usage and being out in the open in the time prior to Little Miss X's discovery.

Patricia Rhae Wilson - Newspapers.com

Clipping found in The Valley Times published in North Hollywood, California on 5/7/1957. Patricia Rhae Wilson

www.newspapers.com

Do we know for sure this woman is still missing?

I found some W. Wilson (father mentioned in paper-clipping) in the earlier Census years, in My Heritage, who lived at Providencia Ave in Burbank, but no number 474 E came up. I think the W.W. I found is direct family...grandparent maybe. Her parents maybe moved to that address in the fifties? When she was 15 in 1957 she would have been born approx. 1942. It's interesting how little I could find about her, without knowing where she was born.

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Patricia Rhae Wilson seems like a potential match for Little Miss X, though the only detail would be if she was ever found or if she's still missing.

 

[SimsGuy67]

Patricia Rhae Wilson seems like a potential match for Little Miss X, though the only detail would be if she was ever found or if she's still missing.

We think she is. She never graduated let alone attended the next year. There are also no records of her. It's possible she was found but very unlikely. No more newspaper clippings about her either. I'm gonna make a table for her too. I also have a theory on who could have killed her but it's mainly speculation.

 

[SimsGuy67]

Detailed post about Patricia Rhae Wilson.

Here is the table:

	Patricia Rhae Wilson.	Little Miss X #UP9859	Possible?
Sex	Female	Female	Match
Race	White/Caucasian	White/Hispanic	Match
Age	15	11-17	Match
Hair Color	Light Brown	Auburn/Light Brown	Match
Eye Color	Blue	Unknown	Match/Possible
Height	5'4"	5'0"-5'3"	Match
Weight	130lbs	105-110lbs	Possible
Estimated D.L.C/D.O.D	April 1957	01/31/1958-05/01/1957	Match
Distinctive Features	Unknown/None- Freckles	Unknown/None (Skeletal Remains)	Match/Possible
Circumstances	Went missing while Babysitting	Found in Grand Canyon, A\	Possible
Distance	Burbank-Grand Canyon	493miles (7-8hr)	Possible

It shocks me how many of these fields match!

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Detailed post about Patricia Rhae Wilson.

Here is the table:

	Patricia Rhae Wilson.	Little Miss X #UP9859	Possible?
Sex	Female	Female	Match
Race	White/Caucasian	White/Hispanic	Match
Age	15	11-17	Match
Hair Color	Light Brown	Auburn/Light Brown	Match
Eye Color	Blue	Unknown	Match/Possible
Height	5'4"	5'0"-5'3"	Match
Weight	130lbs	105-110lbs	Possible
Estimated D.L.C/D.O.D	April 1957	01/31/1958-05/01/1957	Match
Distinctive Features	Unknown/None- Freckles	Unknown/None (Skeletal Remains)	Match/Possible
Circumstances	Went missing while Babysitting	Found in Grand Canyon, A\	Possible
Distance	Burbank-Grand Canyon	493miles (7-8hr)	Possible

It shocks me how many of these fields match!

I think it would be good to get this to the Coconino County Medical Examiner and Sheriff's Department, maybe they could get more information on Patricia Rhae Wilson.

 

[Palisades]

Detailed post about Patricia Rhae Wilson.

Here is the table:

	Patricia Rhae Wilson.	Little Miss X #UP9859	Possible?
Sex	Female	Female	Match
Race	White/Caucasian	White/Hispanic	Match
Age	15	11-17	Match
Hair Color	Light Brown	Auburn/Light Brown	Match
Eye Color	Blue	Unknown	Match/Possible
Height	5'4"	5'0"-5'3"	Match
Weight	130lbs	105-110lbs	Possible
Estimated D.L.C/D.O.D	April 1957	01/31/1958-05/01/1957	Match
Distinctive Features	Unknown/None- Freckles	Unknown/None (Skeletal Remains)	Match/Possible
Circumstances	Went missing while Babysitting	Found in Grand Canyon, A\	Possible
Distance	Burbank-Grand Canyon	493miles (7-8hr)	Possible

Note that PRW seems to have some noticeable jaw misalignment. PRW matches the original sketch, which also seems to have a jaw misalignment, but IMO not the newer reconstruction.

Has there been any talk about the eyes in Little Miss X original sketch? They seem uneven or one is wandering.

 

[iamshadow21]

Note that PRW seems to have some noticeable jaw misalignment. PRW matches the original sketch, which also seems to have a jaw misalignment, but IMO not the newer reconstruction.

Has there been any talk about the eyes in Little Miss X original sketch? They seem uneven or one is wandering.

I wondered about the jaw, and was going to comment about it, but then talked myself out of it because I thought it could just be a severe shadow making her jaw look uneven. (The photo *is* very blown out and blurry.)

 

[Palisades]

I wondered about the jaw, and was going to comment about it, but then talked myself out of it because I thought it could just be a severe shadow making her jaw look uneven. (The photo *is* very blown out and blurry.)

That is definitely some kind of jaw misalignment. I had a cross bite and before it was fixed, my jaw looked similar but not as bad in photos. Not so much in person Or in the mirror.

I hope PRW gets put into a missing database if it is found that she is still missing, so that she can have her own thread.

 

[Alleykins]

Perhaps someone could contact the Burbank police department and see if they can confirm whether or not she was found.

 

[SimsGuy67]

Detailed post about Patricia Rhae Wilson.

Here is the table:

	Patricia Rhae Wilson.	Little Miss X #UP9859	Possible?
Sex	Female	Female	Match
Race	White/Caucasian	White/Hispanic	Match
Age	15	11-17	Match
Hair Color	Light Brown	Auburn/Light Brown	Match
Eye Color	Blue	Unknown	Match/Possible
Height	5'4"	5'0"-5'3"	Match
Weight	130lbs	105-110lbs	Possible
Estimated D.L.C/D.O.D	April 1957	01/31/1958-05/01/1957	Match
Distinctive Features	Unknown/None- Freckles	Unknown/None (Skeletal Remains)	Match/Possible
Circumstances	Went missing while Babysitting	Found in Grand Canyon, A\	Possible
Distance	Burbank-Grand Canyon	493miles (7-8hr)	Possible

It shocks me how many of these fields match!

If you want to know where we got that picture we got it from the Burbank High School 1957 Yearbook. I think it was on page 170. I also found out from Burbank PD that they have no record of her which is strange. I think they may have lost it or the case was moved to another PD. Of course I considered the fact that she is no longer missing. The main source is here.

Patricia Rhae Wilson

Clipping found in Valley Times published in North Hollywood, California on 5/7/1957. Patricia Rhae Wilson

www.newspapers.com

 

[Bit of hope]

If you want to know where we got that picture we got it from the Burbank High School 1957 Yearbook. I think it was on page 170. I also found out from Burbank PD that they have no record of her which is strange. I think they may have lost it or the case was moved to another PD. Of course I considered the fact that she is no longer missing. The main source is here.

Patricia Rhae Wilson

Clipping found in Valley Times published in North Hollywood, California on 5/7/1957. Patricia Rhae Wilson

www.newspapers.com

The wow is for not having something on record. Did LE said something about a possible match. Or was it like, we don't have a file, so we are not going to look into it further. I think the sketch (although it must have been made from a skull, so some mistakes are possible) looks very much like PRW. At least the overall look. I wish we knew if she is still missing. I hope she has lived or is still living a happy and productive life. The missing-missing cases always make me very sad.