AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #20

[winterrose]

NOTE: Moore said it was conjecture on his part.

So far reading all these released documents I have yet to read about a "brother" of SC on the property that a.m.

Right, but it is interesting how LE shut the recording right there and kept it.

 

[Patty G]

You are so helpful. Would it be possible to add a simple tutorial on how to capture a screen shot? I've never been able to figure it out. TIA!

I never knew how to do a screen-shot, however, now I have a program called "Snipping Tool" and it is simple to use; although this came with my computer.

Hopefully someone will be able to help you do a screen-shot!

 

[winterrose]

You are so helpful. Would it be possible to add a simple tutorial on how to capture a screen shot? I've never been able to figure it out. TIA!

What I do is open my Paint program, go to what you want to copy and on your keyboard there's a key says Print Screen, push that, it takes the picture or copies it. Go to your paint program and under Edit, just push paste.

 

[johnQpublic]

You know.. something else I kinda get an impression of after reading thru a great deal of the PDF's is that there is some alternative crime wrapped in with this. Let's assume that some drug connection of JM's went in and took Isa or did something to her thinking it was JM in there sleeping (or whatever). Then RR caught wind of what happened and went after JM's drug connect and stabbed him with the knife. This is purely a speculation.... but from some of what you read in these documents lead me to beleave that there are things that the surrounding uncles/cousins are involved in that is very questionable and conspirital in nature.

 

[Azcrabcakes]

I have a question and if it has been asked/answered I"m sorry.

We have heard over and over that SC didn't hear any dogs barking but what about RC? I know that my hubby could sleep through world war 3 but as a mom I get woken up by the slightest noise. Plus if she left at 6:47, 7:00 or 7:30 wouldn't she be up already getting ready for work? TIA

You are so right. Even though it has been said RC got up to go to work, without peeking in on IC, in my mind's eye, it's like RC was not there. I never even considered if SHE heard the dogs. Excellent point.

 

[Patty G]

Can someone help me out, please? A girlfriend of an uncle was cleaning the kitchen of the Celis home while LE was there? I'm confused how or when that happened in the sequence of events?? I thought LE immediately had family stationed outside of the home and were questioning them separately? When and how did she gain entry of the house?

Thank you to whoever can help clear this up for me!!

PDF 2, Page 71

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563528/pdf-celis-2-forensics-collected-items-taken-from-home

 

[A_News_Junkie]

You are so helpful. Would it be possible to add a simple tutorial on how to capture a screen shot? I've never been able to figure it out. TIA!

If you are using Windows....

Hit the key marked PRTSC (Print screen key!)
Open paint
Paste (CTRL + V same time) or use Edit (top of page) and paste
Save

Print Screen will only capture what you see on your current screen - IE it won't copy the entire page. WORD OF CAUTION - it will show your tabs and your email or instant message name if that shows on the screen or if one pops up the very second you do the SCap!

Snipping tool should be available on most recent versions of Windows. I have Vista and I have it - it is better for just a section, IMHO.
Just do a search of your computer for snipping tool from your start button to see if you have it!

Hope that helps. If not let me know and I can try again!

Adding

LOL - Winterrose beat me to it!

 

[WhatsupAZ]

I could be completely wrong, jmo but...

Several notes in the docs refer to "apparent" blood or other stains and many are redacted. But many places where it mentions "false positives" are not redacted. One MIGHT assume that the mentioned findings that ARE redacted are so because they were positive findings, no?

 

[Azcrabcakes]

What I do is open my Paint program, go to what you want to copy and on your keyboard there's a key says Print Screen, push that, it takes the picture or copies it. Go to your paint program and under Edit, just push paste.

ANd for a laptop, press prt sc while keeping the fn key depressed. Then go to Paint, or any graphics program, even Word, and press Ctrl and V keys simultaneously to paste. Voila! No need to buy a program!

 

[Knox]

I never knew how to do a screen-shot, however, now I have a program called "Snipping Tool" and it is simple to use; although this came with my computer.

Hopefully someone will be able to help you do a screen-shot!

1. Hit PrtSCN key on your keyboard
2. Open Paint Program (found in MS Accessories)
3. Click on Paste
4. The screen shot will then appear
5. If you want to eliminate extraneous stuff from the shot, you can use the crop feature to remove it.
6. Save to your desktop as a jpeg file
7. You can either upload using the WS uploader or use tinypic.com

ETA- I need to be quicker on the draw, lol. My last several posts have been repeats of everyone else's. Sorry guys, takin' up space ...

 

[WhatsupAZ]

You know.. something else I kinda get an impression of after reading thru a great deal of the PDF's is that there is some alternative crime wrapped in with this. Let's assume that some drug connection of JM's went in and took Isa or did something to her thinking it was JM in there sleeping (or whatever). Then RR caught wind of what happened and went after JM's drug connect and stabbed him with the knife. This is purely a speculation.... but from some of what you read in these documents lead me to beleave that there are things that the surrounding uncles/cousins are involved in that is very questionable and conspirital in nature.

I hear you. Maybe not that specific scenario, but there is so much going on in and around this whole mess.

 

[winterrose]

PDF 2, Page 71

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563528/pdf-celis-2-forensics-collected-items-taken-from-home

That's actually a bad thing, people cleaning up, there could have been evidence gone before LE even checked the house for clues. She might have been trying to help, the first thing I do in an emergency situation is go to the kitchen start dishes and make food. It's a woman thing, but in a missing person, I wouldn't touch anything.

 

[Knox]

Anyone find anything on the CD's in the rented storage unit yet?

 

[gliving]

Right, but it is interesting how LE shut the recording right there and kept it.

That is a small snippet of Moore's account. LE viewed the video for hours then come back the next day to take it. It isn't true they see SC and shut it down.

"GRACE: OK, Rick Moore, everyone, joining us, the owner of Moore Security Services, actually has cameras trained on the Celis family home.

Have cops come to your place and taken or looked at video of that alley behind the Celis family home which was being videoed at the time of the kidnap?

MOORE: They certainly have, Nancy. They contacted us right away, about 8:30 on Saturday morning. We do have some signs up in the back of the showroom area, where the cameras are located. It has our phone number on them.

So what they did was they contacted us right away. My general manager came down to the facility, to the showroom, interviewed for four or five hours with detectives, looked at footage then, reviewed footage, then came back Monday and spent basically all day.

Then had us record the information for them on a USB drive. We furnished them with all the information that was stored on the hard drive, on our digital recorder. They took it with them. Hopefully, they`ve got it now and they`re poring over that information that may provide some leads for this investigation.

GRACE: OK, very quickly, Rick, where is the original video?

MOORE: The police have it now.

GRACE: OK.

MOORE: I imagine it`s at a substation, and hopefully, they`re poring over it, Nancy.

GRACE: And you know, the reason I`m asking that is because there becomes a whole lot of issues at trial trying to get things into evidence that are duplicates, when the law requires the highest and best evidence -- in other words, the original video. I was just immediately thinking ahead.

OK, Rick, have you seen the video?

MOORE: You know, I saw bits and pieces of it, Nancy.

GRACE: What did you see?

MOORE: The detectives and the investigators -- I`m sorry?

GRACE: What did you see?

MOORE: What did I see?

GRACE: Yes.

MOORE: You know, we saw -- what we see is a lot of vehicles, Nancy. We did see some people coming through the alleyway. The cameras are trained right onto the alley, which leads right from where we`re standing right now. So we see cars coming in and out, a lot of vehicles, makes, models, color, things of that nature. And I`m sure that`s what the police are using to investigate it.

We also saw some people wandering through the alley. Whether that`s pertinent information, I`m not sure. But it is information that the police took with them, and I`m sure they`re chasing down those leads.

GRACE: Got it. OK, Rick, when you state that you see cars going by, you can see tag numbers, you can see people. What did you see around Isabel Celis`s home that Saturday morning around 8:00 AM?

MOORE: You know, what we saw that morning -- again, it had been light for a little bit. What we basically saw, the first people we saw on the street -- we did see some activity in the alleyway right behind us. But the police have all that evidence.

 

[winterrose]

If you are using Windows....

Hit the key marked PRTSC (Print screen key!)
Open paint
Paste (CTRL + V same time) or use Edit (top of page) and paste
Save

Print Screen will only capture what you see on your current screen - IE it won't copy the entire page. WORD OF CAUTION - it will show your tabs and your email or instant message name if that shows on the screen or if one pops up the very second you do the SCap!

Snipping tool should be available on most recent versions of Windows. I have Vista and I have it - it is better for just a section, IMHO.
Just do a search of your computer for snipping tool from your start button to see if you have it!

Hope that helps. If not let me know and I can try again!

Adding

LOL - Winterrose beat me to it!

LOL I wasn't even going to post how, because I figured by the time I posted it, five people would have already told how.

 

[emeraldeyes85]

I heard mention of "interesting" people in family/friends of the Celis'. Can anyone tell me more about that and where it is mentioned in the docs?

 

[winterrose]

That is a small snippet of Moore's account. LE viewed the video for hours then come back the next day to take it. It isn't true they see SC and shut it down.

This is why I put the link instead of the whole interview, so people could read it. My point in posting it is by the time Moore was interviewed by NG, he had seen SC in the media to recognize him in the recording. He knew who SC was and he had seen someone he was saying was SC's brother. They were out at 8am or even before. That recording will possibly play a key role when LE makes a move for an arrest.

 

[mamamia54]

I heard mention of "interesting" people in family/friends of the Celis'. Can anyone tell me more about that and where it is mentioned in the docs?

Go look at this url in the doc files, pretty much has already been posted on JM if that's who you are asking about? That url will take you to page two so page back one lol.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7970142&posted=1#post7970142

 

[Gardenlady]

I have to say, I feel terrible for the poor aunty who cleaned the kitchen, she is taking such a beating lol. I can tell you that my dear mother and any of my numerous ti-tis would have done the same thing in a crisis. Can't do anything else? Start cleaning and doing dishes! :innocent:

 

[gliving]

That's actually a bad thing, people cleaning up, there could have been evidence gone before LE even checked the house for clues. She might have been trying to help, the first thing I do in an emergency situation is go to the kitchen start dishes and make food. It's a woman thing, but in a missing person, I wouldn't touch anything.

So true. When I get nervous my OCD kicks in and I whip into my cleaning mode. I'm sure she was just trying to help. Now if she had the carpet shampooer out then I'd wonder.