Found Deceased AZ - Isabella Grogan-Cannella, 8, Bullhead City, 2 September 2014 - #3

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Magdalyn said:
For now. From same article:
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Ugh, I didn't click on the article. I just read the quoted part and was thankful that she had at least been spared that much. I'm so sick of these monsters taking children and of the parents that create the situations where it can happen.


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Oh, they've added that part since I first saw the article. How in the world would they not know?
 
news.talk said:
If you read any of my other recent posts you would be able to discern that I am all for intervention.

However, if you're going to apply Occum's Razor to this or any case, you cannot also offer subjective exceptions to a rule - Just because you knew *someone* that was able to parent through a drug addicted haze and by some miracle, had children that survived, DOES NOT make it acceptable and excusable for anyone, including TG to do.

It doesn't make the child in this case, any less dead.
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As I had noted, the "exceptions to a rule" was to emphasize every case is NOT simply a lost cause, even regardless of what tragedy may have already resulted. It was a different point of discussion from the "Occam's Razor" contention that the simplest map reveals the shortest path to the truth.

If the tragedy is proved to have been caused by a direct result of an action or inaction by the parent(s), then justice must be served. At this point there is no indication of that (beyond the dramatic movie scripts spawned by angry people 'in-the-know' in various FB groups). I rarely trust what comes out of what appears to be 'mob mentality'. I could be wrong and that 'mob' might be spot on with their commentary. We'll see, right?

If LE determines there is a *there*, there regarding TG, then I will be quite happy when they convict and sentence her. So far, all quite on the legal front, simply waiting for the hearing on Sept 12 and its aftermath.

And please note this: I have never stated it is 'acceptable', I am not offering 'excuses'.
 
winterrose said:
Oh, they've added that part since I first saw the article. How in the world would they not know?
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Just speculation from me but possibly he tried and didn't go that far and Bella was killed so she wouldn't tell. If he had raped or sexually assaulted her wouldn't there be injuries?
If there wasn't a sexual motive to this then I don't know what to think. Did he get angry for some reason or did he get off on strangulation? Or was it motivated by something else entirely. MOO
 
tier said:
What can I say, your post convinced me! I never knew smiling after talking about holding your murdered daughters decomposing hand (mine was a decomposing granddaughter this last March but thankfully! she wasn't murdered) was physically/emotionally possible. I can only wish I had had TG's strength of character to go on with life within days after my darkest hours. The time I wasted is unforgivable to me now.
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Tier, i just wanted to say that i am sorry for your loss. No parent or grandparent should ever have to experience that. And i wanted to let you know that although i realize your last line was meant as sarcasm, only you can determine how long your grief lasts, and i can only imagine that the answer to that is "an entire lifetime" and never compare your grieving timeline to someone elses. But if march to september of the same year is too long, then i guess my 8 years for my moms suicide is waaaaaaay too long (please realize that is sarcasm). I think i am inserting my foot in my mouth at this point, so please just know that I am truly sorry for your loss.
 
The one thing we do know is there was drug activity as a lifestyle. About a week before the burglary charges with the stepfather/bf. We know all charged in that burglary are in jail, except him, and was this part of a ring that included more people, like JJR? It's still an open investigation that is checking all avenues, so I've not ruled out any connection with JJR being part of this ring.

These could be totally two separate incidents in connection, but I'll bet LE has all of this as part of their investigation. I've never seen LE go into a home with guns drawn telling everyone to put their hands up, with a search warrant, for an abducted child case.
 
We must stop setting up crowd funding pages for neglectful parents and start setting up prison cells. Enough children have been sacrificed on the fail parent altar.


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[JJR] indicted on first-degree murder and other charges.

A Mohave County grand jury also charged Justin James Rector with felony counts of child abuse, abandonment of a dead body and kidnapping a minor under the age of 15.
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http://www.abc15.com/news/region-no...-indicted-in-death-of-8-year-old-arizona-girl

"counts" - plural.

"Child Abuse", as defined in Arizona law: http://www.meritcd.com/childabuse/abuselaws.php?state=AZ

Any guesses on which counts are applicable?

Also, the shoplifting charge is dismissed:

JUSTIN JAMES RECTOR DEFENDANT - D 1 Date of Birth: 05/1988
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Citation Count Description Disp. Date Disposition
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B000000000104625 1 SHOPLIFTING-CONCEALMENT 9/9/2014 COURT DISMISSAL
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I didn't pick this up reading the article, until someone mentioned it elsewhere, but why is this a Federal case, with a Federal Public Defender? Isn't that when they're taken over state lines and such?
 
winterrose said:
I didn't pick this up reading the article, until someone mentioned it elsewhere, but why is this a Federal case, with a Federal Public Defender? Isn't that when they're taken over state lines and such?
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Body left on federal land?
 
winterrose said:
I thought the same thing, and because of that it brings more questions of why he took her in the first place. Why would he kidnap her if not for this reason, unless they've just not brought those charges yet. As it is, it's given more thought to what her sister said about him texting or messaging he had Bella.
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It was reported a witness had seen someone fitting JJR's description walking away from the area where the body was located .. wondering if he was spooked by passersby ..
 
ChuckMaureen said:
It was reported a witness had seen someone fitting JJR's description walking away from the area where the body was located .. wondering if he was spooked by passersby ..
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I was just reading back in this article http://www.kpho.com/story/26431567/pd-suspect-in-death-of-bullhead-city-girl-was-family-friend. I thought his shirt was left in the store, along with shoes and underwear, but only the shoes were. The shirt was hidden along the highway, and never mentioned his underwear. I'm assuming they could be with the shorts and underwear they can't find, probably buried. So he had done alot in three hours when they found him. I don't know the distance he walked to Walmart.
 
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