Deceased/Not Found AZ - Jhessye Shockley, 5, Glendale, 11 Oct 2011 - #1 *J. Hunter guilty*

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Knox said:
http://www.city-data.com/businesses/257069831-pls-loan-store-glendale-az.html

PLS Loan Store - Thank you Kukla!!

It's like a payday loan. Familiar with those because my son was in the Army and so many of those young men were terrible money managers.

Well, just another interesting twist to this story.
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That's just 1.2 miles away. A cab? I think she wanted verification (through eyewitnesses, through cab records, etc) that she left and returned alone. B/c poor little Jahessye was gone before then... :(

MOO
 
Knox said:
Sounded like Mom was starting to tear into JH at the end of that 911 call. I'm getting a feel for the dynamics, just look at those CA court cases in the link I supplied ...

I'd gladly spend the day in Aliayah's thread, but we have nothing to discuss. Praying she and Jahessye are found.
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In the 911 call, when Mom told grandma she couldn't find Jhessye....that was the first time I heard fear in Mom's voice. IMO.
 
belimom said:
That's just 1.2 miles away. A cab? I think she wanted verification (through eyewitnesses, through cab records, etc) that she left and returned alone. B/c poor little Jahessye was gone before then... :(

MOO
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I want LE to tell us the last time Jhessye was seen outside that house.
 
belimom said:
That's just 1.2 miles away. A cab? I think she wanted verification (through eyewitnesses, through cab records, etc) that she left and returned alone. B/c poor little Jahessye was gone before then... :(

MOO
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so I wonder how long it takes someone to go to a payday loan company, do their business, and get out.
Aren't they usually a never ending cycle of continuous advancements and payments?
It didn't sound like this was Mom's first cab ride to PLS.
 
Knox said:
Sounded like Mom was starting to tear into JH at the end of that 911 call. I'm getting a feel for the dynamics, just look at those CA court cases in the link I supplied ...

I'd gladly spend the day in Aliayah's thread, but we have nothing to discuss. Praying she and Jahessye are found.
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BBM- I did see where Mom had a restraining order filed in 04 against her by a man.
Knox supplied the link a few posts back for those who want to see for themselves. while you're there, browse through other family members names. Pour a coffee, it may take awhile.
 
lynnb said:
BBM- I did see where Mom had a restraining order filed in 04 against her by a man.
Knox supplied the link a few posts back for those who want to see for themselves. while you're there, browse through other family members names. Pour a coffee, it may take awhile.[/QUOTE]

BBM Should I make a fresh pot! :floorlaugh:
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Time needed to take out a payday loan:

If there is no line from start to finish - first visit about 20 minutes.

For subsequent visits you are already in their database so it is 10 minutes tops, in and out the door. IF there is not a line ahead of you.
 
JeannieC said:
lynnb said:
BBM- I did see where Mom had a restraining order filed in 04 against her by a man.
Knox supplied the link a few posts back for those who want to see for themselves. while you're there, browse through other family members names. Pour a coffee, it may take awhile.[/QUOTE]

BBM Should I make a fresh pot! :floorlaugh:
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I'm halfway thru the pot I made. May be a long night.
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tlcox said:
Time needed to take out a payday loan:

If there is no line from start to finish - first visit about 20 minutes.

For subsequent visits you are already in their database so it is 10 minutes tops, in and out the door. IF there is not a line ahead of you.
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so we have timeline for Mom at
20-30-40 minutes according to 911 call
30-40-50 minutes according to radio interview

has anyone seen if Mom mentioned if she got a cab back home? I've only seen the trip there mentioned.
 
To any reporters reading here.....Mom wants exposure so give her exposure.
We have the following questions we would like answered in your interview
1. Why was Jhessye home from school that day? Was she in bed sick? Were the other children in school that day?
2. How often did the older children have to do yard work?
3. When was the last time anyone outside of the home saw Jhessye?
4. Has the cab company verified Mom's trip that day?

(please feel free to add)
 
tlcox said:
Time needed to take out a payday loan:

If there is no line from start to finish - first visit about 20 minutes.

For subsequent visits you are already in their database so it is 10 minutes tops, in and out the door. IF there is not a line ahead of you.
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On a Tuesday afternoon after a holiday weekend, I wonder how busy they would be?
 
lynnb said:
To any reporters reading here.....Mom wants exposure so give her exposure.
We have the following questions we would like answered in your interview
1. Why was Jhessye home from school that day? Was she in bed sick? Were the other children in school that day?
2. How often did the older children have to do yard work?
3. When was the last time anyone outside of the home saw Jhessye?
4. Has the cab company verified Mom's trip that day?

(please feel free to add)
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5. What did you and Jhessye do that day?
6. Did the older children come inside after they came home from school? Did they interact with/see Jhessye?
 
belimom said:
On a Tuesday afternoon after a holiday weekend, I wonder how busy they would be?
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In all honesty, Mom's timeline of being gone may fit in with the timeline of a payday loan company visit.
 
To any reporters reading here.....Mom wants exposure so give her exposure.
We have the following questions we would like answered in your interview
1. Why was Jhessye home from school that day? Was she in bed sick? Were the other children in school that day?
2. How often did the older children have to do yard work?
3. When was the last time anyone outside of the home saw Jhessye?
4. Has the cab company verified Mom's trip that day?
5. What did you and Jhessye do that day?
6. Did the older children come inside after they came home from school? Did they interact with/see Jhessye?
 
I'm not sure that any amount of media attention will bring a child home. Look at all the high profile cases on WS. Have they been solved? I'm so discouraged. I want this little one found safe and I'm afraid she will never be found or not the way we want.

I'm tired of people taking our children. I'm tired of people doing horrible things to our children.

Wherever she if I pray that she is safe.............
 
Jhessye being home from school that day is odd to me. It would tend to make it less likely that she wandered off on her own if she were ill and not feeling well. I too want to find out whether the siblings were locked out of the home while mom was gone or if she simply meant she locked the front door on leaving. I really want to know if any of the siblings saw Jhessye when they got home or if they were just informed she was in the house. All the questions you guys have are the same ones rattling round in my gourd.

As to the payday loan, I am willing to bet mom went there and there is probably surveillance video to prove it. All those places conveniently have surveillance. Wondering what her transaction consisted of. If she was there to pick up money, wonder what was so important about getting it done right then at that specific time. What did she need to get money for at that time that couldn't have waited til the following day when all the kids were at school and she could accomplish it at her leisure? Did she have some bill that was due that minute?

What better way to set up an apparent lost child/abduction than to take a cab (witness) to a payday loan place (surveillance) and reurn home to discover your child has gone missing and raise the alarm?

I suspect the hours that the siblings were (most likely) in school and mom and Jhessye were together are going to end up being the critical time.
 
JeannieC said:
I'm not sure that any amount of media attention will bring a child home. Look at all the high profile cases on WS. Have they been solved? I'm so discouraged. I want this little one found safe and I'm afraid she will never be found or not the way we want.

I'm tired of people taking our children. I'm tired of people doing horrible things to our children.

Wherever she if I pray that she is safe.............
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I feel the very SAME way as you do! What is it with these "pregnant" womens children just vanishing. And if they are "tired" of being mom's -why don't they just give the little ones to someone who will LOVE them.
 
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