AZ AZ - Lukeville, HispMale 16-20, UP120409, In desert near migrant trails, some dentals available, Apr'12

[ChatteringBirds]

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UNIDENTIFIED
Unidentified Person / NamUs #UP120409
Male, Hispanic / Latino
Date Body Found: April 9, 2012
Location Found: Lukeville, Arizona
ME/C Case Number: ML12-00848
Biological Sex: Male
Race / Ethnicity: Hispanic / Latino
Estimated Age Group: Late Teen/Young Adult
Estimated Age Range (Years): 16-20
Estimated Year of Death: 2010-2011
Height/Weight: Cannot Estimate
NamUs Case Created: April 19, 2024
ME/C QA Reviewed: June 16, 2012
Location Found: Lukeville, Arizona 85341
County: Pima County
GPS Coordinates (Not Mapped):
N 31 57.502 W 112 52.935

Circumstances of Recovery:
Cranium was discovered by a National Park Officer in the desert near Lukeville, AZ in an area with known migrant trails.

Condition of Remains:
Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only

Other distinctive physical characteristic:
Some dental restorations. See Dental page for more information

 

[HmmMysterious]

Shapes of lips between Antonio Ramirez Lopez and this boy are close

But there's a bunch of NamUs files for missing young male migrants with no pictures. John Doe could be one of them.

And it seems like Lukeville John Doe already had a NamUs file: The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[HmmMysterious]

Shapes of lips between Antonio Ramirez Lopez and this boy are close

But there's a bunch of NamUs files for missing young male migrants with no pictures. John Doe could be one of them.

And it seems like Lukeville John Doe already had a NamUs file: The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

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The NamUs page for John Doe in my comment seems to have been removed, but the second and newer file that ChatteringBirds put is still up.

 

[HmmMysterious]

@iulia were any missing persons removed around the same time the NamUs file for Lukeville John Doe was removed? I know his second file is still up, but I'm just curious.

 

[iulia]

@iulia were any missing persons removed around the same time the NamUs file for Lukeville John Doe was removed? I know his second file is still up, but I'm just curious.

Honestly, I don't know what happened here, but I've never had that profile in my file. It wasn't public when I created my file, I checked an older version of my file and it wasn't there either. I just checked all Arizona cases one by one and I have no discrepancies.

Only thing I can think of is the old profile was made public and subsequently removed between my checks. This wouldn't influence the totals, since it wasn't a resolved case, and I would totally miss it. It happens on the MP side for sure. I can't be sure though, never ran into this issue before.

 

[HmmMysterious]

Honestly, I don't know what happened here, but I've never had that profile in my file. It wasn't public when I created my file, I checked an older version of my file and it wasn't there either. I just checked all Arizona cases one by one and I have no discrepancies.

Only thing I can think of is the old profile was made public and subsequently removed between my checks. This wouldn't influence the totals, since it wasn't a resolved case, and I would totally miss it. It happens on the MP side for sure. I can't be sure though, never ran into this issue before.

Thanks for clarifying. I think the investigators realized they accidentally made two files of the same Doe and decided to remove one of them.