GUILTY AZ - Michael, 44, & Tina Careccia, 42, Maricopa, 22 June 2015 - #1 *Arrest*

[Jan]

I know that LE dismissed the thought of Tina being the bank robber (even if disguised with heavy fake tan). But there was a case where I live that was bizarre. There was a very popular and well liked female teacher at an elementary school that we were at often as volunteers and in the grandparents group. The teacher had many close friends who thought the world of her, and she had a teenaged daughter who lived at home. During this time, a woman wearing a Tweety Bird hat as a disguise was robbing local banks. The robber was caught and it was that teacher wearing her daughter's hat. Everyone was shocked and couldn't believe it, especially her fellow teachers and her close friends. People only had good things to say about her. Well, it turned out that she was hooked on drugs and owed a lot of money to her drug dealer. He threatened to hurt her family if she didn't pay up. So, she robbed banks to get the money to pay the drug dealer. Everyone was in disbelief and no one had known that she was drug addicted. Most of her friends felt bad about the mess she had gotten herself into and they stood by her, saying she wasn't a bad person but had just made some mistakes and ended up in a situation where she felt desperate. It's possible that Tina or Michael could have gotten into a situation where they felt threatened or desperate. Not saying it happened but only that it sometimes does. Even a situation where their family was threatened could have caused them to go with someone they otherwise wouldn't have gone with and to do whatever they were told, whether it was to fly a drug run, transport illegal immigrants by air, or whatever. Also, maybe they knew something that someone didn't want them to tell. I hope there is a break in this case soon. I don't think the outcome will be good.

 

[JoCoKSEyes]

With some of the theories being tossed around by the PI, I wonder if the mitre saw accident was really an accident. Could it have been an earlier attempt at debt collection by some very bad people?


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[Pebbles]

You do kind of get some shades of Breaking Bad, the McStay case & Bonnie & Clyde all mixed together.

I'm certainly all over the map with possibilities. Perhaps that was the intent? Now stories of Defrauding? I hear Dr. Phil.....Past Behavior Predicts Future Behavior........

 

[otto]

I noticed a comment on that article that says Mike did a year in jail, I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere.

That fits with Tina's brother hiring a private investigator to check it all out, including the inheritance, possible drug connections, either the husband or a third party.

Is it possible that Tina was forced to go to the bank to withdraw her thousands in inheritance, and she was perceived as a bank robber?
Did her husband owe money?
We know that he had some troubles with some sort of payments because his wages were garnished. Is there some sort of maintenance enforcement program and Mike was behind in child support payments - perhaps a result of the saw accident?

 

[otto]

1. My first thoughts were the Son did something. Then, knowing the cousin was there and the whole arson thing......boy, an imagination can get away from you. The fact the last place they were seen was the house, the car found near the house, the purse. Everything involves the Son. If they were accosted at the house, surely it would have woke the Son & Cousin.

2. The strange coincidence of the bank robbery and striking resemblance. You just cannot dismiss it, even though the police are. That is likely strategic. Someone could have made her rob a bank, whether it's her husband or someone else. Perhaps her husband and children's lives were threatened. OR, she could be in collusion? This variable completely throws me. It seems a lot of tragedy has befallen this couple........

Disabled, A Foreclosure, Fire destroying home & contents, Now Missing........It would make a lot of people desperate. I do know usually if a Pilot is disabled they usually get a pretty decent monthly stipend. I have a Pilot friend who was paid quite well for many years after he caught a fish hook in the eye (ugh!) and was never able to fly commercially again. I saw thru Tina's FB page where she mentioned a pic Mike's FO (First Officer) took of a pretty cool lightning strike off of an airliner. So, he had to have been a Captain.

I really don't know what to think. Bizarre for certain. I hope answers come soon.

Anyway, It is all too weird.

The private detective commented on what seems to be a lot of people that were in the house. Other than Mike, Tina, their three younger children, potentially the two older children, was anyone else living or staying at the house on Sunday night?

 

[otto]

Being used to a Captain's income and perhaps losing that would make one quite desperate. Just because you can't fly commercially doesn't mean you can't fly another type of a/c. I don't know if it's the suggestion by the P I.....but, the husband is starting to be very intriguing. All JMO. Just throwing it all out there.

He probably has motor control issues, and he may not be able to extend a full reach after nearly cutting off his arm in a saw/mitre box accident. Any cockpit will require the full range of motion for all of the controls. I don't think he would be qualified to fly after that type of accident.

Did he attempt to defraud? Did he want a pension from the company and somehow misrepresented the reasons he can no longer fly? If there is a attempt to defraud case, there must be a filing somewhere?

 

[Rustyprop]

With some of the theories being tossed around by the PI, I wonder if the mitre saw accident was really an accident. Could it have been an earlier attempt at debt collection by some very bad people?


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No the mitre saw accident was Mike running trim on his previous house for christ sake he didnt purposely try to cut off his arm!



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[Spiritecho]

Who is Kevin??????

Is there some sort of maintenance enforcement program and Kevin was behind in child support payments -

Other than Kevin, Tina, their three younger children

from posts above...do you mean MIKE?

 

[Spiritecho]

Has it been said if it was normal that Mike and Tina drove Tina to work every day, and he kept the car and then picked her up? Did he run errands every day? Was he job hunting? I mean, it seems they are on a pretty tight budget so why does he take her to work every day? If he does?

 

[otto]

Who is Kevin??????

Is there some sort of maintenance enforcement program and Kevin was behind in child support payments -

Other than Kevin, Tina, their three younger children

from posts above...do you mean MIKE?

Sorry ... Mike. I'm looking at two different cases ... sorry.

Was Mike behind in child support, or were his wages garnished for another reason?
Is inheritance joint property?

Did Mike collect money from the airline company after he nearly severed his arm and he should have known at the time of the personal accident that he would never fly again - and therefore not entitled to company compensation other than resignation payouts.

I'm trying to figure out who Mike owed money to - his ex-wife, or the airline company?
How was he earning money? Was Tina able to support the family of five as an accountant? It's certainly possible - depending on her accreditation. Mike looked after the children while Tina worked, and what did Mike do during the day?

 

[otto]

No the mitre saw accident was Mike running trim on his previous house for christ sake he didnt purposely try to cut off his arm!



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Was he in his previous marriage at the time of the mitre box saw accident?

 

[WalterWhite]

You do kind of get some shades of Breaking Bad, the McStay case & Bonnie & Clyde all mixed together.

I'm certainly all over the map with possibilities. Perhaps that was the intent? Now stories of Defrauding? I hear Dr. Phil.....Past Behavior Predicts Future Behavior........

Funny the Bonnie and Clyde reference... Anyone notice the Facebook picture of the horses? Named Bonnie and Clyde? Also the picture of the couple kissing? Dressed as Bonnie and Clyde? Not really sure if that is who they were dressed as, but that is what popped in my mind. Check it out...

In all seriousness though, I am struggling to completely pass the idea that it was not Tina at the bank. It does look like her. I am in Arizona and it is odd that the story has not been circulated more and more or less swept under the rug. I can-not say that it is unrelated when either case has yet to be solved.

My initial thought was that the son has something to do with it, along with the cousin. That is still my strongest scenario ( almost a tie), followed by Mike, then the whole drug cartel thing, which is completely going down the rabbit hole. It had to start at their home and continue from there. I live about 50 miles from this area and the whole drug thing seems far fetched. Yuma? Perhaps. Maricopa, not so much. I highly doubt this was random...

I believe that someone close to the family or area is responsible. Location of the car, wallet at home, recent arson, money issues... This will not end well. It won't. Not this far along.

As for the PI? Seems like a horrible waste of money. Under resourced, going on the same info we have for the most part.

 

[katydid23]

With some of the theories being tossed around by the PI, I wonder if the mitre saw accident was really an accident. Could it have been an earlier attempt at debt collection by some very bad people?


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Interesting. It could be...but it would be very stupid to disable a pilot that owes you money...:doh:

 

[Spiritecho]

Rustyprop....Is it pretty much volunteer searchers out there with little to no LE there?

ETA: Are there any empty warehouses in that area? Big storage buildings?

 

[ZoniChik]

Rustyprop....Is it pretty much volunteer searchers out there with little to no LE there?

ETA: Are there any empty warehouses in that area? Big storage buildings?

Spiritecho.. Correct.. Very little LE presence.. The searches have been all volunteer.. As far as warehouses or storage facilities, there are several in Maricopa.

 

[katydid23]

Sorry ... Mike. I'm looking at two different cases ... sorry.

Was Mike behind in child support, or were his wages garnished for another reason?
Is inheritance joint property?

Did Mike collect money from the airline company after he nearly severed his arm and he should have known at the time of the personal accident that he would never fly again - and therefore not entitled to company compensation other than resignation payouts.

I'm trying to figure out who Mike owed money to - his ex-wife, or the airline company?
How was he earning money? Was Tina able to support the family of five as an accountant? It's certainly possible - depending on her accreditation. Mike looked after the children while Tina worked, and what did Mike do during the day?

I think the youngest 'kid' was 17. So he didn't really need to look after the kids. So I wonder what he did do with his time while she worked. He must be a pretty smart , capable guy, being an airline pilot. Wasn't there some other job he could prepare for? Maybe there aren't many jobs in the area?

 

[otto]

Has it been said if it was normal that Mike and Tina drove Tina to work every day, and he kept the car and then picked her up? Did he run errands every day? Was he job hunting? I mean, it seems they are on a pretty tight budget so why does he take her to work every day? If he does?

One of the early articles included information that Mike drove to work with Tina each morning. Did they have only one vehicle ... the 2008 ... honda civic???
We know that Mike, a former commercial pilot, was not working due to his arm injury. Tina is an accountant.

An appointment has been mentioned, but who has an appointment at 5:30AM when the work day starts at 7AM at the earliest? What sort of meeting does an accountant attend at 5:30AM ... and why not bring a purse to the pre-work meeting?

 

[Spiritecho]

Spiritecho.. Correct.. Very little LE presence.. The searches have been all volunteer.. As far as warehouses or storage facilities, there are several in Maricopa.

I am guessing the warehouses have been checked by the searchers? And is there an explanation why LE has little presence...that does not seem normal?

 

[otto]

I think the youngest 'kid' was 17. So he didn't really need to look after the kids. So I wonder what he did do with his time while she worked. He must be a pretty smart , capable guy, being an airline pilot. Wasn't there some other job he could prepare for? Maybe there aren't many jobs in the area?

The youngest was 17 years old?? ... and three of the children were still living at home? Did they have friends over, and that's why the PI mentioned that so many people were in the house? If the house was 17 - 23 year olds, could that be a lot of people not thinking about parents.

 

[otto]

I noticed on video streaming that the temperature is 103F, so finding them fast is so important if they need to figure out who is behind their disappearance. I bet they'll be bones in days.